help

My brother in law isnt having much success with treatments... he has had avastin with folfiri.. i think the doctors are giving up on him does anyone know of any other treatment he may try?

Any advice with be appreciated

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  • kristasplace
    kristasplace Member Posts: 957 Member
    Nutrition advocate
    There are "alternative" ways to defeat cancer that are less envasive, and more effective than traditional treatments. Many of us have cured ourselves through a nutrient dense diet (juicing, supplementing, etc.), and doing other various lifestyle changes. I'm a stage IV, cancer-free for 15 months.

    There is always hope.

    Hugs,
    Krista
  • Anastasia P
    Anastasia P Member Posts: 11

    Nutrition advocate
    There are "alternative" ways to defeat cancer that are less envasive, and more effective than traditional treatments. Many of us have cured ourselves through a nutrient dense diet (juicing, supplementing, etc.), and doing other various lifestyle changes. I'm a stage IV, cancer-free for 15 months.

    There is always hope.

    Hugs,
    Krista

    can i please have more
    can i please have more information as to how you went about doing this. What sort of supplements and juices??? THank you so much krista
  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624 Member
    other chemo's
    Are those the only chemo's that he's been on? There are many others to try. I was on oxiplatinan with Xeloda and avastin combo myself.
    Winter Marie
  • kristasplace
    kristasplace Member Posts: 957 Member

    can i please have more
    can i please have more information as to how you went about doing this. What sort of supplements and juices??? THank you so much krista

    Supplements
    I started with just a super good multi-vitamin (Garden of Life is one of my favorite companies), and probiotics. The juicing is carrots, kale and apples (with lemon to drown the bitter kale flavor), and i put half a teaspoon of spirulina powder, msm, bee pollen, camu camu and maca. The spirulina being the most important one. I also added a vitamin D supplement which made a huge difference in the way i feel, and being deficient in that vitamin is what i believe to be a major contributor in allowing cancer to thrive.

    The key is to get the immune system strong and active by flooding it with high nutrient content foods and supplements, and keeping it in that state. There isn't any one way to do this, and experimentation can be fun. At least i've had fun with it. I've learned about many different types of diets (most of them Eastern in nature), and i've learned what i personally prefer. After eating healthy for a short time, i found that i don't crave junk food, and my entire lifestyle has changed.

    Chaga is another supplement i take that i believe is as good a cancer killer as anything on Earth. It's a mushroom that grows off the bark of Birch trees, and is the "King" of Chinese herbs.

    Some of the things i eat at least once a day are shiitake and maitake mushrooms, rice, fish, garlic, onions, oregano, and turmeric.

    I hope this helps. Half the battle is finding the motivation to do such a serious lifestyle change, but once you get into it, you wonder why you took so long to do it! If you both do it, you can inspire one another, and keep at it. Consistency is important. Even if chemo is started again. Some people report good results doing both concurrently.

    Good luck to both of you, and let me know if i can help in any way.

    Hugs,
    Krista
  • Anastasia P
    Anastasia P Member Posts: 11

    other chemo's
    Are those the only chemo's that he's been on? There are many others to try. I was on oxiplatinan with Xeloda and avastin combo myself.
    Winter Marie

    thanks sooo much ill send
    thanks sooo much ill send him that information
  • Anastasia P
    Anastasia P Member Posts: 11

    Supplements
    I started with just a super good multi-vitamin (Garden of Life is one of my favorite companies), and probiotics. The juicing is carrots, kale and apples (with lemon to drown the bitter kale flavor), and i put half a teaspoon of spirulina powder, msm, bee pollen, camu camu and maca. The spirulina being the most important one. I also added a vitamin D supplement which made a huge difference in the way i feel, and being deficient in that vitamin is what i believe to be a major contributor in allowing cancer to thrive.

    The key is to get the immune system strong and active by flooding it with high nutrient content foods and supplements, and keeping it in that state. There isn't any one way to do this, and experimentation can be fun. At least i've had fun with it. I've learned about many different types of diets (most of them Eastern in nature), and i've learned what i personally prefer. After eating healthy for a short time, i found that i don't crave junk food, and my entire lifestyle has changed.

    Chaga is another supplement i take that i believe is as good a cancer killer as anything on Earth. It's a mushroom that grows off the bark of Birch trees, and is the "King" of Chinese herbs.

    Some of the things i eat at least once a day are shiitake and maitake mushrooms, rice, fish, garlic, onions, oregano, and turmeric.

    I hope this helps. Half the battle is finding the motivation to do such a serious lifestyle change, but once you get into it, you wonder why you took so long to do it! If you both do it, you can inspire one another, and keep at it. Consistency is important. Even if chemo is started again. Some people report good results doing both concurrently.

    Good luck to both of you, and let me know if i can help in any way.

    Hugs,
    Krista

    supplements
    karisa i shall pass on your information to him. Thank you so much for taking the time
    regards Ana
  • annalexandria
    annalexandria Member Posts: 2,571 Member
    Surgery?
    Has your brother-in-law been able to have any surgery? What about radiation? Some people are candidates for HIPEC, which combines surgery with chemo applied directly into the abdomen. If you feel comfortable sharing a little more information about his situation (staging, location of tumors, etc), I think folks on here might be able to offer a few more suggestions...there are a lot of very knowledgeable people on this site! Take care, Ann
  • Anastasia P
    Anastasia P Member Posts: 11

    Surgery?
    Has your brother-in-law been able to have any surgery? What about radiation? Some people are candidates for HIPEC, which combines surgery with chemo applied directly into the abdomen. If you feel comfortable sharing a little more information about his situation (staging, location of tumors, etc), I think folks on here might be able to offer a few more suggestions...there are a lot of very knowledgeable people on this site! Take care, Ann

    surgery
    he has had a section of his colon removed. He has also had radiation, i have told him about rfa and we are trying to have that organized. He is having problems with his lungs, he was hospitalized tonight due to the pain he is experiencing. He is stage four and his tumours have now moved to his liver and lungs. I was recently told about this site and that is why i am reaching out. I will inform his wife of HIPEC. He also has two tumours growing at the incision where they removed his colon. These are causing him extreme pain. I am so grateful for all the information and we are all chasing up on what is being shared. Thank you so much ann.
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    Second Opinion?
    I'd look into that if he hasn't already. Some doctors are more "in the know" with more up to date treatments. I'd also make sure he is getting advice from a Cancer Center and not just the local hospital. This is the time to get the best suggestions even if he has to pay out of pocket for the consultations. Many people do that, they get consultations at one place and have treatments at another.
    -phil
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    just like krista comments
    sorry your brother inlaw's crc lead you to us

    if improving your knowledge about complementary therapies is an area of interest, i would recommend anticancer at www.anticancerbook.com
    we have posted here about the book as well.

    the theories in this book have been around many years, but its well presented for the average person.

    hugs,
    pete
  • Anastasia P
    Anastasia P Member Posts: 11
    PhillieG said:

    Second Opinion?
    I'd look into that if he hasn't already. Some doctors are more "in the know" with more up to date treatments. I'd also make sure he is getting advice from a Cancer Center and not just the local hospital. This is the time to get the best suggestions even if he has to pay out of pocket for the consultations. Many people do that, they get consultations at one place and have treatments at another.
    -phil

    second opinion
    thank you so much for your response i have read some of your other posts. He is still in hospital but i will try and get him to read some of your posts when he comes out. Hopefully Monday Tuesday
    Ana
  • Anastasia P
    Anastasia P Member Posts: 11
    PhillieG said:

    Second Opinion?
    I'd look into that if he hasn't already. Some doctors are more "in the know" with more up to date treatments. I'd also make sure he is getting advice from a Cancer Center and not just the local hospital. This is the time to get the best suggestions even if he has to pay out of pocket for the consultations. Many people do that, they get consultations at one place and have treatments at another.
    -phil

    second opinion
    thank you so much for your response i have read some of your other posts. He is still in hospital but i will try and get him to read some of your posts when he comes out. Hopefully Monday Tuesday
    Ana
  • Anastasia P
    Anastasia P Member Posts: 11

    just like krista comments
    sorry your brother inlaw's crc lead you to us

    if improving your knowledge about complementary therapies is an area of interest, i would recommend anticancer at www.anticancerbook.com
    we have posted here about the book as well.

    the theories in this book have been around many years, but its well presented for the average person.

    hugs,
    pete

    just like krista comments
    Diet is going to be one of the hardest battles for him. Hopefully going into this website will help him find foods he can tolerate. Thank you so much
    Ana
  • Anastasia P
    Anastasia P Member Posts: 11

    just like krista comments
    Diet is going to be one of the hardest battles for him. Hopefully going into this website will help him find foods he can tolerate. Thank you so much
    Ana

    drugs he has taken
    he was on folfoxil and avastin for 3 months that didn't have any effect on him. He then tried folfury and avastin.. that worked for a while and stopped. He was taking those for six months. he was then part of a study at peter mac .. which also wasn't successful. He was then sent off to the Royal Melb Hospital where he was put on another trial, he reacted very badly to this one, broke out in a rash and was ill, at the end of this trial his scans showed an increase of 20%. We have informed him of RFA and he will be seeing a doctor this week. However more importantly we are eager to know what other combinations of chemo have been successful for others

    Ana
  • Anastasia P
    Anastasia P Member Posts: 11

    drugs he has taken
    he was on folfoxil and avastin for 3 months that didn't have any effect on him. He then tried folfury and avastin.. that worked for a while and stopped. He was taking those for six months. he was then part of a study at peter mac .. which also wasn't successful. He was then sent off to the Royal Melb Hospital where he was put on another trial, he reacted very badly to this one, broke out in a rash and was ill, at the end of this trial his scans showed an increase of 20%. We have informed him of RFA and he will be seeing a doctor this week. However more importantly we are eager to know what other combinations of chemo have been successful for others

    Ana

    thank you
    i wish to thank everyone for their assistance and information. Unfortunately my brother in law lost his battle on Thursday after celebrating his life with all his friends and family on the previous Sunday. Good luck and i wish all of you all the success in the world.
    Ana
  • Anastasia P
    Anastasia P Member Posts: 11

    drugs he has taken
    he was on folfoxil and avastin for 3 months that didn't have any effect on him. He then tried folfury and avastin.. that worked for a while and stopped. He was taking those for six months. he was then part of a study at peter mac .. which also wasn't successful. He was then sent off to the Royal Melb Hospital where he was put on another trial, he reacted very badly to this one, broke out in a rash and was ill, at the end of this trial his scans showed an increase of 20%. We have informed him of RFA and he will be seeing a doctor this week. However more importantly we are eager to know what other combinations of chemo have been successful for others

    Ana

    thank you
    i wish to thank everyone for their assistance and information. Unfortunately my brother in law lost his battle on Thursday after celebrating his life with all his friends and family on the previous Sunday. Good luck and i wish all of you all the success in the world.
    Ana
  • z
    z Member Posts: 1,414 Member

    Nutrition advocate
    There are "alternative" ways to defeat cancer that are less envasive, and more effective than traditional treatments. Many of us have cured ourselves through a nutrient dense diet (juicing, supplementing, etc.), and doing other various lifestyle changes. I'm a stage IV, cancer-free for 15 months.

    There is always hope.

    Hugs,
    Krista

    Krista
    Hello, I am happy your having success, but would like to know if you have had any test to determine your cancer free, and if so where was the cancer before. Thank you, Lori
  • tommycat
    tommycat Member Posts: 790 Member

    thank you
    i wish to thank everyone for their assistance and information. Unfortunately my brother in law lost his battle on Thursday after celebrating his life with all his friends and family on the previous Sunday. Good luck and i wish all of you all the success in the world.
    Ana

    Very sorry of your loss. You
    Very sorry of your loss. You were a loving sister in law to him. I hope you can feel his spirit smiling on you this holiday season.
    God Bless
  • janie1
    janie1 Member Posts: 753 Member
    tommycat said:

    Very sorry of your loss. You
    Very sorry of your loss. You were a loving sister in law to him. I hope you can feel his spirit smiling on you this holiday season.
    God Bless

    Ana
    So very sorry to hear this. Had been thinking about you and your desire to help your brother-in-law. May all of the family and friends, in time, find peace.
  • karen40
    karen40 Member Posts: 211 Member

    thank you
    i wish to thank everyone for their assistance and information. Unfortunately my brother in law lost his battle on Thursday after celebrating his life with all his friends and family on the previous Sunday. Good luck and i wish all of you all the success in the world.
    Ana

    Ana
    I'm so sorry for your loss. Cherish that last Sunday with him. I pray that you and your family soon find peace.
    Karen