Alkaline Water

KTeacher
KTeacher Member Posts: 1,103 Member
in Head and Neck Cancer #1
This came up in another post. If I am being naughty I can let this post die. I have friends that say I should consider a machine. Does anyone have experience with Alkaline water/machine and/or diet. I am very interested.

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  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    #2
    I think the only places I
    I think the only places I have found making claims that those very expensive machine work, are on the sites that want to sell you the very expensive machines. I could not find any independent research backing any of the claims made for alkaline water or alkaline diet. In my mind, diet cannot change the body like that. It may change your urine, but that is about it.



    MAYO CLINIC ON ALKALINE WATER

    'Busting Cancer Myths: Acidic Foods and Cancer Risks'


    Acid/Alkaline Theory of Disease Is Nonsense by Gabe Mirkin MD'

    ANOTHER ARTICLE
  • osmotar
    osmotar Member Posts: 1,006
    #3
    Bottled Water
    Are there any bottled water manufactures that say their water is alkaline?

    thanks,

    Linda
  • jim and i
    jim and i Member Posts: 1,788 Member
    #4
    third time the charm?
    I keep getting knocked of when I try to reply so I will try to make this short and fast.

    I agree with Sweetblood on the water. However there is a lot of reliable reasearch done by reliable and respected doctors, nutritionist and reachers that prove akaline (fruits and veggies)and acid (meat and dairy) balance of food is essential to good health. Some authors to read, Dr Mahmet Oz M.D., Dr. Joel Fuhrman, M.D. and Cherie Calbom, M.S. (former Mayo Clinic cancer center nutritionist). Also as stated in one of the links provided by Dawn and also spoke about by these same people I refrenced is the fact that to much animal protien (acid) causes the kidneys to work harder and drains calcium from the bones.

    I believe in a high alkaline diet and am proof it helps with acid refux and IBS when drugs don't.

    I recommend reading "The Complete Cancer Cleanse" by Cherie Calbom. There is a great story in the book about a man diagnosed with leukemia and given 30 days to live. Modern medicine put him into remission and diet cleansed the toxic results and helped him get healthy and stay healthy for the past 15+ years. Very inspirational and gives us hope.

    My take on the acid vs. alkaline

    Debbie
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    #5
    osmotar said:

    Bottled Water
    Are there any bottled water manufactures that say their water is alkaline?

    thanks,

    Linda

    Bottled Water
    Doesn't Fiji water say that, I think? That is the only brand I can think of at the moment, I am sure there are more.
  • osmotar
    osmotar Member Posts: 1,006
    #6
    sweetblood22 said:

    Bottled Water
    Doesn't Fiji water say that, I think? That is the only brand I can think of at the moment, I am sure there are more.

    I'll look the next time out
    I'll look the next time out and about
  • Pam M
    Pam M Member Posts: 2,196
    #7
    jim and i said:

    third time the charm?
    I keep getting knocked of when I try to reply so I will try to make this short and fast.

    I agree with Sweetblood on the water. However there is a lot of reliable reasearch done by reliable and respected doctors, nutritionist and reachers that prove akaline (fruits and veggies)and acid (meat and dairy) balance of food is essential to good health. Some authors to read, Dr Mahmet Oz M.D., Dr. Joel Fuhrman, M.D. and Cherie Calbom, M.S. (former Mayo Clinic cancer center nutritionist). Also as stated in one of the links provided by Dawn and also spoke about by these same people I refrenced is the fact that to much animal protien (acid) causes the kidneys to work harder and drains calcium from the bones.

    I believe in a high alkaline diet and am proof it helps with acid refux and IBS when drugs don't.

    I recommend reading "The Complete Cancer Cleanse" by Cherie Calbom. There is a great story in the book about a man diagnosed with leukemia and given 30 days to live. Modern medicine put him into remission and diet cleansed the toxic results and helped him get healthy and stay healthy for the past 15+ years. Very inspirational and gives us hope.

    My take on the acid vs. alkaline

    Debbie

    Supposed to Help Bladder Issue, Too
    I have heard that a lower acid diet helps with reflux.

    I don't recall the specific issue, but my son's gf's mom has a bladder issue, and her doc has recommended alkaline water. Her bladder had fallen, and something else is wrong with it. I dunno if it has anything to do with being more alkaline than other waters, but both she and I think that Fiji water "just tastes better". And I always scoffed at folks who paid top dollar for water. I only get Fiji water on special days - call it "my" champagne.
  • osmotar
    osmotar Member Posts: 1,006
    #8
    Pam M said:

    Supposed to Help Bladder Issue, Too
    I have heard that a lower acid diet helps with reflux.

    I don't recall the specific issue, but my son's gf's mom has a bladder issue, and her doc has recommended alkaline water. Her bladder had fallen, and something else is wrong with it. I dunno if it has anything to do with being more alkaline than other waters, but both she and I think that Fiji water "just tastes better". And I always scoffed at folks who paid top dollar for water. I only get Fiji water on special days - call it "my" champagne.

    Those cute bottles
    are a bit pricey from what I've seen.
  • Pam M
    Pam M Member Posts: 2,196
    #9
    jim and i said:

    third time the charm?
    I keep getting knocked of when I try to reply so I will try to make this short and fast.

    I agree with Sweetblood on the water. However there is a lot of reliable reasearch done by reliable and respected doctors, nutritionist and reachers that prove akaline (fruits and veggies)and acid (meat and dairy) balance of food is essential to good health. Some authors to read, Dr Mahmet Oz M.D., Dr. Joel Fuhrman, M.D. and Cherie Calbom, M.S. (former Mayo Clinic cancer center nutritionist). Also as stated in one of the links provided by Dawn and also spoke about by these same people I refrenced is the fact that to much animal protien (acid) causes the kidneys to work harder and drains calcium from the bones.

    I believe in a high alkaline diet and am proof it helps with acid refux and IBS when drugs don't.

    I recommend reading "The Complete Cancer Cleanse" by Cherie Calbom. There is a great story in the book about a man diagnosed with leukemia and given 30 days to live. Modern medicine put him into remission and diet cleansed the toxic results and helped him get healthy and stay healthy for the past 15+ years. Very inspirational and gives us hope.

    My take on the acid vs. alkaline

    Debbie

    Fiji Water
    Yep, Fiji water is too pricey to drink regularly - and not earth-friendly to ship bottles of water here.

    If there are any fans of the TV show "Red Dwarf" out there - my son and I call Fiji water "Fuschia Water" in honor of "Cat's" "family" (who, by manner of oral history mutations, called Fiji "Fuschia")
  • KTeacher
    KTeacher Member Posts: 1,103 Member
    #10
    Thank you. I posted before
    Thank you. I posted before I left for radiation. Was able to run an errand and go see my precious twin grandsons for a bit. I appreciated all of the input.
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    #11
    osmotar said:

    Those cute bottles
    are a bit pricey from what I've seen.

    FIJI Bottled Water
    Not sure where it stacks up to others, but on their site there is a California Report that shows;

    Alkalinity in CaCO3 units 130


    John
  • osmotar
    osmotar Member Posts: 1,006
    #12
    Skiffin16 said:

    FIJI Bottled Water
    Not sure where it stacks up to others, but on their site there is a California Report that shows;

    Alkalinity in CaCO3 units 130


    John

    Rinse
    John,

    When you mention you used peroxide as a rinse in water what ratio did you use?

    Linda
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    #13
    osmotar said:

    Rinse
    John,

    When you mention you used peroxide as a rinse in water what ratio did you use?

    Linda

    Mixture
    I had measurements at first....LOL

    But eventually I'd just pour about 1/3 glass of water, just pour in a little hydrogen peroxide (probably a few tables spoons), and about a tablespoon of baking soda...

    Stir it up a little to dissolve the baking soda, then just swish and spit several mouthfuls....

    It doesn't have to be exact....actually you could use the hydrogen peroxide undiluted with water if you wanted as most store bought is only a 3 1/2% diluted solution.

    You can even make toothpaste using the baking soda and peroxide mixed....

    But mine was similar to what I stated above.....

    JG
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    #14
    Ozone machine
    Yes I have a ozone maching and make my own 03 water, it is gereat for the body, just taste a little diffrent.

    Hondo
  • osmotar
    osmotar Member Posts: 1,006
    #15
    Skiffin16 said:

    Mixture
    I had measurements at first....LOL

    But eventually I'd just pour about 1/3 glass of water, just pour in a little hydrogen peroxide (probably a few tables spoons), and about a tablespoon of baking soda...

    Stir it up a little to dissolve the baking soda, then just swish and spit several mouthfuls....

    It doesn't have to be exact....actually you could use the hydrogen peroxide undiluted with water if you wanted as most store bought is only a 3 1/2% diluted solution.

    You can even make toothpaste using the baking soda and peroxide mixed....

    But mine was similar to what I stated above.....

    JG

    did you
    use this in lieu of swishing with salt and baking soda ?

    Linda
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    #16
    osmotar said:

    did you
    use this in lieu of swishing with salt and baking soda ?

    Linda

    Prescribed
    It's just the solution I was told (given a printed sheet) to use per either my Rads or Chemo MD....

    JG
  • KTeacher
    KTeacher Member Posts: 1,103 Member
    #17
    Hondo said:

    Ozone machine
    Yes I have a ozone maching and make my own 03 water, it is gereat for the body, just taste a little diffrent.

    Hondo

    Different
    Right now water tastes different! Friday I will be 1/2 way through radiation. Mouth is not as bad as last time BUT this is when it all started to go south last year. Husband made a nice dinner last night, I keep reminding him I need plain food. I couldn't eat much, suggested he take to our son's today for lunch with the boys (3 year old grandsons).
    He did! Can's waste food and I am just at the point that things taste different, no flavor or yuck.
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    #18
    KTeacher said:

    Different
    Right now water tastes different! Friday I will be 1/2 way through radiation. Mouth is not as bad as last time BUT this is when it all started to go south last year. Husband made a nice dinner last night, I keep reminding him I need plain food. I couldn't eat much, suggested he take to our son's today for lunch with the boys (3 year old grandsons).
    He did! Can's waste food and I am just at the point that things taste different, no flavor or yuck.

    Sweat
    Water is the only thing that truly satisfies my thirst...unfortunately during rads, it tasted like sweat.

    JG

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