Energy level

Well, I have another question. It seems that since Bob finished radiation two weeks ago, his energy level just goes down, down, down. He actually just slept or napped 20 hours yesterday. Is this "normal"? I'm really encouraging him to at least step outside for a bit, but he's not really getting much exercise. Do I force it? Do I let him sleep? Opinions?

Comments

  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Two Weeks Ago...
    In reality, he's still cooking from the rads, and probably will be for a few more weeks.. Right now his body is using any excess energy for recovery.

    And he's normal, right where he should be more than likely...

    Give hom a few more weeks of rest. But it never hurts to get out a little and get some vitamin D...the sunshine will do him good (not too much direct though without protection)...but walking and getting out a bit is always good.

    Make sure he's getting enough hydration and calorie intake also though...

    Best,
    John
  • SIRENAF42
    SIRENAF42 Member Posts: 202
    Sleep
    My Dr told me that the first month after radiation would be the hardest, and he was not kidding, I was exhausted, my throat was swollen, my sinus swollen and dried out, Id get up long enough to drink a smoothie and back to sleep id go.

    Starting the 2nd month, I found myself sleeping less and wanting to visit the world. Its good to get out and take in some fresh air, but if your cancer patient is tired, let him rest. His body is healing and that is the best time for a body to heal, when it is at rest.
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Skiffin16 said:

    Two Weeks Ago...
    In reality, he's still cooking from the rads, and probably will be for a few more weeks.. Right now his body is using any excess energy for recovery.

    And he's normal, right where he should be more than likely...

    Give hom a few more weeks of rest. But it never hurts to get out a little and get some vitamin D...the sunshine will do him good (not too much direct though without protection)...but walking and getting out a bit is always good.

    Make sure he's getting enough hydration and calorie intake also though...

    Best,
    John

    Still Cooking
    Agree with John, he is not done just yet. If it continues for more then a months or so you might want to get his Thyroid checked. Vitamin are always a good choice, D and B6, B 12 and Zinc is what I do

    Hondo
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    SIRENAF42 said:

    Sleep
    My Dr told me that the first month after radiation would be the hardest, and he was not kidding, I was exhausted, my throat was swollen, my sinus swollen and dried out, Id get up long enough to drink a smoothie and back to sleep id go.

    Starting the 2nd month, I found myself sleeping less and wanting to visit the world. Its good to get out and take in some fresh air, but if your cancer patient is tired, let him rest. His body is healing and that is the best time for a body to heal, when it is at rest.

    I agree with everyone else.
    At two weeks, he is just about at peak. Because you keep cooking it takes a couple weeks for the side effects to peak and be at their worst. That's about this time for him.
  • Toni08
    Toni08 Member Posts: 39
    Hi olybee
    This was normal for my dad. We are six weeks out from rads and though energy is coming back, it is a slow recovery. Some days are good and others not so much. I would recommend pushing to keep him up long enough to eat and hydrate though!
    Best wishes for healing,
    Toni
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Hondo said:

    Still Cooking
    Agree with John, he is not done just yet. If it continues for more then a months or so you might want to get his Thyroid checked. Vitamin are always a good choice, D and B6, B 12 and Zinc is what I do

    Hondo

    Vitamin D
    Sorry Tim, I was actually referring to sunshine...

    Agree on the thyroid also as we all take a hit on that with the rads...more than likely it takes awhile to notice that though. Although I have no idea what's normal or usual as for a time frame.

    I know mine is on it's way out, but at two years it's still not to the point of being on meds yet.

    JG
  • adventurebob
    adventurebob Member Posts: 691
    Sounds familiar
    2 weeks isn't much time. Makes me tired just thinking about where I was at 2 weeks. Sleeping is apparently what he needs right now. As said; hydration and calories are still important so you're probably gonna have to wake him up once in awhile and get some stuff in him. Exercise is always good but his body probably knows best what he needs right now. You can probably expect this for a week or 2 more. It'll get better.

    AB
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Skiffin16 said:

    Vitamin D
    Sorry Tim, I was actually referring to sunshine...

    Agree on the thyroid also as we all take a hit on that with the rads...more than likely it takes awhile to notice that though. Although I have no idea what's normal or usual as for a time frame.

    I know mine is on it's way out, but at two years it's still not to the point of being on meds yet.

    JG

    Hi John

    I was so depleted after treatment the second time I had to go on a full rang of Vitamins and my D was also extremely low. You are right sunshine it a great way to get your D but it is always a good idea to have it checked as it will make you feel so very weak you can't get out of bed as in my case.

    Hondo
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Hondo said:

    Hi John

    I was so depleted after treatment the second time I had to go on a full rang of Vitamins and my D was also extremely low. You are right sunshine it a great way to get your D but it is always a good idea to have it checked as it will make you feel so very weak you can't get out of bed as in my case.

    Hondo

    Potassium
    Potassium was the one I had to have additionally for 10 days....got kind of low during the chemo days.

    JG
  • luv4lacrosse
    luv4lacrosse Member Posts: 1,410 Member
    SLEEPING
    I too slept most of the day away up to 2 months post radiation. Supplements helped me as well as forcing myself to go outside and walk or walk on my treadmill at home. I found that even walking once around my block at home added a huge amount of energy to my day.

    I am 9 months post treatment now and go to the gym 4-5 days a week and feel great. The only difference with me at the gym currently is that I am not very strong, but I can do allot of sets and reps with the weights.

    In short, when he needs to sleep or just falls asleep, let him do it for now as sleeping is part of the healing process. press him to get some type of activity, even if it means only sitting outside on a nice day, VS vegging on the couch.

    Best!!

    Mike
  • arndog64
    arndog64 Member Posts: 537

    SLEEPING
    I too slept most of the day away up to 2 months post radiation. Supplements helped me as well as forcing myself to go outside and walk or walk on my treadmill at home. I found that even walking once around my block at home added a huge amount of energy to my day.

    I am 9 months post treatment now and go to the gym 4-5 days a week and feel great. The only difference with me at the gym currently is that I am not very strong, but I can do allot of sets and reps with the weights.

    In short, when he needs to sleep or just falls asleep, let him do it for now as sleeping is part of the healing process. press him to get some type of activity, even if it means only sitting outside on a nice day, VS vegging on the couch.

    Best!!

    Mike

    They are not kidding when
    They are not kidding when they say the 2 months post treatment are the worst. My husband was not well at all. He made it and is doing great. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
  • olybee
    olybee Member Posts: 85
    arndog64 said:

    They are not kidding when
    They are not kidding when they say the 2 months post treatment are the worst. My husband was not well at all. He made it and is doing great. There is light at the end of the tunnel.

    Thanks for all the
    Thanks for all the supporting comments. I did start him on Vitamin D supplement a while ago, and we're finally having some sun in the Pacific NW, so I'll have to try to get him to go out for little breathers on the deck. I was worried about his thyroid, because he had half of it removed five years ago, but we had that tested and they said it was good. He hasn't had any other blood work yet, but I guess that's something that will come soon.
    Thanks again - you guys are great and a wealth of info. I'm so glad I have somewhere to turn to ask Qs
  • DrMary
    DrMary Member Posts: 531 Member
    olybee said:

    Thanks for all the
    Thanks for all the supporting comments. I did start him on Vitamin D supplement a while ago, and we're finally having some sun in the Pacific NW, so I'll have to try to get him to go out for little breathers on the deck. I was worried about his thyroid, because he had half of it removed five years ago, but we had that tested and they said it was good. He hasn't had any other blood work yet, but I guess that's something that will come soon.
    Thanks again - you guys are great and a wealth of info. I'm so glad I have somewhere to turn to ask Qs

    Sun
    Doug was told not to get any sun where he'd had radiation (neck, upper back, lower face) so he wears sunscreen, a hat and a thin scarf when outside. If you're looking to get some beneficial results from the sun, I'd suggest sitting under partial shade with his legs out in the sun - you get sun on a substantial part of your body that way, and keep it away from the hot spots.

    Nutrition is very important - I was using an on-line calorie counting program to keep track of Doug's vitamin/mineral intake and found that it was very hard to get enough potassium into him (he couldn't eat/drink bananas - he mostly got it from mashed potatoes, carrot/tomato soup and the despised Boost).

    Glad you're getting some sun there - we're getting some welcome relief from the heat on our coast. . .
  • Glenna M
    Glenna M Member Posts: 1,576
    Walking
    When I was going through treatment the radiation oncologist's nurse told me to make sure I got outside for 15 minutes each day. She told me to walk for these 15 minutes each day and enjoy the sunshine and fresh air.

    Some days it seemed impossible but I felt much better after each short walk.

    Don't force it but do try to encourage him to get outside.

    Glenna
  • Goalie
    Goalie Member Posts: 184
    Glenna M said:

    Walking
    When I was going through treatment the radiation oncologist's nurse told me to make sure I got outside for 15 minutes each day. She told me to walk for these 15 minutes each day and enjoy the sunshine and fresh air.

    Some days it seemed impossible but I felt much better after each short walk.

    Don't force it but do try to encourage him to get outside.

    Glenna

    Energy and Recovery
    I hope that DennisK7BV doesn't mind but I am sort of reposting his post from the other day on a BOT thread. His blog is really good and not unlike any of ours but he says in there that his doctors told him that he would spend a day recovering for every day he spent getting treated.

    That sounds about right. Seven weeks down, seven weeks up for many people. I was lucky, more treatment (nine weeks not counting the tonsillectomy before and the neck dissection after) and less recovery but not by much. I was working and traveling overseas the month after treatment ended but it was nothing like normal. I was sick, tired, weak, befuddled, etc. and I was considered in good shape!

    The other day when I saw him for a check-up our rad onc reminded us that the HNC treatment is the worst, far worse in comparison to other cancer treatments (which shall remain nameless so as not to cause arguments). Congratulations to us all for getting it through it. Doug

    DennisK7BV
    Posts: 1
    Joined: Aug 2011

    August 13, 2011 - 12:32am
    My experience...hope it helps

    I kept a blog through my entire base of the tongue throat cancer experience. I hope it might offer some help for you with your many many questions.

    http://k7bvcancer.blogspot.com/

    My best wishes,
    Dennis
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Goalie said:

    Energy and Recovery
    I hope that DennisK7BV doesn't mind but I am sort of reposting his post from the other day on a BOT thread. His blog is really good and not unlike any of ours but he says in there that his doctors told him that he would spend a day recovering for every day he spent getting treated.

    That sounds about right. Seven weeks down, seven weeks up for many people. I was lucky, more treatment (nine weeks not counting the tonsillectomy before and the neck dissection after) and less recovery but not by much. I was working and traveling overseas the month after treatment ended but it was nothing like normal. I was sick, tired, weak, befuddled, etc. and I was considered in good shape!

    The other day when I saw him for a check-up our rad onc reminded us that the HNC treatment is the worst, far worse in comparison to other cancer treatments (which shall remain nameless so as not to cause arguments). Congratulations to us all for getting it through it. Doug

    DennisK7BV
    Posts: 1
    Joined: Aug 2011

    August 13, 2011 - 12:32am
    My experience...hope it helps

    I kept a blog through my entire base of the tongue throat cancer experience. I hope it might offer some help for you with your many many questions.

    http://k7bvcancer.blogspot.com/

    My best wishes,
    Dennis

    DennisK7BV ~ BLOG
    I read part of it this morning also, it's a very detailed and informative BLOG... I suggested that Dawnmight want to add it to her SuperThread...

    DennisK7BV ~ BLOG

    John