Lifestyle changes to change "the terrain" as a cancer preventative

hopeful girl 1
hopeful girl 1 Member Posts: 454
edited February 2011 in Uterine/Endometrial Cancer #1
As per the book Anti Cancer as mentioned in the other posts the most important things we can do for ourselves in addition to conventional treatment is:

Eat a healthy diet.

Exercise everyday.

Find ways to find emotional peace and serenity-(meditation, yoga, or doing things you enjoy).
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  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493 Member
    Anticancer Lifestyle
    Maybe we can start this thread again. What is everyone doing to complement traditional treatments (or, in some cases, in place of traditional treatments)?

    I had Stage 1a UPSC, which my gyne-onc told me from the get-go (surgery May 2008) has a pretty good prognosis. I had six rounds of carbo-taxol, then five brachytherapy treatments. Since then, I have completely changed my diet and have started a rigorous (for me) exercise program.

    Now, I am mostly vegetarian, with minimal fish and chicken. For protein, fiber, and iron, I eat grains (quinoa, kasha, spelt) and legumes (all kinds of beans and lentils).

    I limit myself to about three ounces of low-fat cheese a week and two tablespoonsful of yogurt daily. Eggs are not part of my diet, except for rare occasions. I've lowered my cholesterol 60 points (it was never high enough to require meds) and want to keep it really low, so I'll have egg whites instead (not too often).

    Whole fruit and vegetables are really important, and I try to have five servings a day. This is challenging, since I also want to be a locavore; but I DO eat berries and oranges.

    The MOST important dietary change I've made is to give up ALL sugar. I even stay away from honey and maple syrup and substitute pureed fruit.

    I put turmeric on EVERYTHING, in vegetable stews, on whole grain bread, in whole wheat pasta dishes. It's best to add some warm olive oil and fresh ground pepper to the turmeric, which a study at M.D. Anderson showed to be a cancer fighter.

    Ginger is part of my program, too. I try to eat a thin raw slice daily, but I have to admit that I am not so great about following this routine.

    Green tea, too, is a very potent cancer fighter. The best tea is the kind available in Asian markets, considered to contain two to three times more beneficial substances than US-produced tea.

    I'm the opposite of a gym (rat? bunny?), but I love to explore nearby neighborhoods. So, in better weather (I live in Brooklyn, NY), my friend and I walk to a neighborhood that is about seven miles away. We've gotten strong enough so that often we will walk back home. After 14 miles in one day, I feel pretty tired but healthier as well.

    I'm now passing the talking stick...
  • Sara Zipora
    Sara Zipora Member Posts: 231
    Rewriter said:

    Anticancer Lifestyle
    Maybe we can start this thread again. What is everyone doing to complement traditional treatments (or, in some cases, in place of traditional treatments)?

    I had Stage 1a UPSC, which my gyne-onc told me from the get-go (surgery May 2008) has a pretty good prognosis. I had six rounds of carbo-taxol, then five brachytherapy treatments. Since then, I have completely changed my diet and have started a rigorous (for me) exercise program.

    Now, I am mostly vegetarian, with minimal fish and chicken. For protein, fiber, and iron, I eat grains (quinoa, kasha, spelt) and legumes (all kinds of beans and lentils).

    I limit myself to about three ounces of low-fat cheese a week and two tablespoonsful of yogurt daily. Eggs are not part of my diet, except for rare occasions. I've lowered my cholesterol 60 points (it was never high enough to require meds) and want to keep it really low, so I'll have egg whites instead (not too often).

    Whole fruit and vegetables are really important, and I try to have five servings a day. This is challenging, since I also want to be a locavore; but I DO eat berries and oranges.

    The MOST important dietary change I've made is to give up ALL sugar. I even stay away from honey and maple syrup and substitute pureed fruit.

    I put turmeric on EVERYTHING, in vegetable stews, on whole grain bread, in whole wheat pasta dishes. It's best to add some warm olive oil and fresh ground pepper to the turmeric, which a study at M.D. Anderson showed to be a cancer fighter.

    Ginger is part of my program, too. I try to eat a thin raw slice daily, but I have to admit that I am not so great about following this routine.

    Green tea, too, is a very potent cancer fighter. The best tea is the kind available in Asian markets, considered to contain two to three times more beneficial substances than US-produced tea.

    I'm the opposite of a gym (rat? bunny?), but I love to explore nearby neighborhoods. So, in better weather (I live in Brooklyn, NY), my friend and I walk to a neighborhood that is about seven miles away. We've gotten strong enough so that often we will walk back home. After 14 miles in one day, I feel pretty tired but healthier as well.

    I'm now passing the talking stick...

    Lifestyle
    Very helpful 'marching rules,, thanks,
    Sara
  • culka
    culka Member Posts: 149 Member
    Rewriter said:

    Anticancer Lifestyle
    Maybe we can start this thread again. What is everyone doing to complement traditional treatments (or, in some cases, in place of traditional treatments)?

    I had Stage 1a UPSC, which my gyne-onc told me from the get-go (surgery May 2008) has a pretty good prognosis. I had six rounds of carbo-taxol, then five brachytherapy treatments. Since then, I have completely changed my diet and have started a rigorous (for me) exercise program.

    Now, I am mostly vegetarian, with minimal fish and chicken. For protein, fiber, and iron, I eat grains (quinoa, kasha, spelt) and legumes (all kinds of beans and lentils).

    I limit myself to about three ounces of low-fat cheese a week and two tablespoonsful of yogurt daily. Eggs are not part of my diet, except for rare occasions. I've lowered my cholesterol 60 points (it was never high enough to require meds) and want to keep it really low, so I'll have egg whites instead (not too often).

    Whole fruit and vegetables are really important, and I try to have five servings a day. This is challenging, since I also want to be a locavore; but I DO eat berries and oranges.

    The MOST important dietary change I've made is to give up ALL sugar. I even stay away from honey and maple syrup and substitute pureed fruit.

    I put turmeric on EVERYTHING, in vegetable stews, on whole grain bread, in whole wheat pasta dishes. It's best to add some warm olive oil and fresh ground pepper to the turmeric, which a study at M.D. Anderson showed to be a cancer fighter.

    Ginger is part of my program, too. I try to eat a thin raw slice daily, but I have to admit that I am not so great about following this routine.

    Green tea, too, is a very potent cancer fighter. The best tea is the kind available in Asian markets, considered to contain two to three times more beneficial substances than US-produced tea.

    I'm the opposite of a gym (rat? bunny?), but I love to explore nearby neighborhoods. So, in better weather (I live in Brooklyn, NY), my friend and I walk to a neighborhood that is about seven miles away. We've gotten strong enough so that often we will walk back home. After 14 miles in one day, I feel pretty tired but healthier as well.

    I'm now passing the talking stick...

    OK, my turn
    Diagnose April 2008 with stage IIb, grade 3, UPSC, clear cell and endometroid.
    Till surgery in May I had few acupuncture treatments and I digested about pound or so Chinese herbs. Surgeon find only residue of disease in cervix, pathologist couldn't find UPSC, or even disease in the uterus so I was excused from chemo, but went through radiation 25+3 brachy.

    All together i had 3 lb herbs for cancer and another 1.5 lb for radiation.

    I'm nearly vegetarian, most of my food is raw. I'm eating as much greens as possible, preferably in form of green smoothies and I'm eating Budwig mix at least 5 times per week.

    If I'm not in my personal gym I'm outside with dog, chopping wood, working in my garden, cutting grass or walking with my clients.
  • daisy366
    daisy366 Member Posts: 1,458 Member
    culka said:

    OK, my turn
    Diagnose April 2008 with stage IIb, grade 3, UPSC, clear cell and endometroid.
    Till surgery in May I had few acupuncture treatments and I digested about pound or so Chinese herbs. Surgeon find only residue of disease in cervix, pathologist couldn't find UPSC, or even disease in the uterus so I was excused from chemo, but went through radiation 25+3 brachy.

    All together i had 3 lb herbs for cancer and another 1.5 lb for radiation.

    I'm nearly vegetarian, most of my food is raw. I'm eating as much greens as possible, preferably in form of green smoothies and I'm eating Budwig mix at least 5 times per week.

    If I'm not in my personal gym I'm outside with dog, chopping wood, working in my garden, cutting grass or walking with my clients.

    culka
    Didn't you fast recently?? If so, what prompted you to fast at this time?

    Mary Ann
  • culka
    culka Member Posts: 149 Member
    daisy366 said:

    culka
    Didn't you fast recently?? If so, what prompted you to fast at this time?

    Mary Ann

    oh yes
    I was off from 0ct 7 till Oct 28 last year. Water only.

    Sometimes in August or September I palpate something in my upper abdomen. My MD sent me back to cancer clinic ( they let me go after 1 year so I needed again refferal) and radiation resident said that I had ulcer. That was that last drop, I didn't wait for results from CT.
    As a side effect from fasting after 2 years I DON'T, I repeat I don't have any hips pain. And hips and tailbone was my only complain since radiation.
  • jazzy1
    jazzy1 Member Posts: 1,379
    culka said:

    oh yes
    I was off from 0ct 7 till Oct 28 last year. Water only.

    Sometimes in August or September I palpate something in my upper abdomen. My MD sent me back to cancer clinic ( they let me go after 1 year so I needed again refferal) and radiation resident said that I had ulcer. That was that last drop, I didn't wait for results from CT.
    As a side effect from fasting after 2 years I DON'T, I repeat I don't have any hips pain. And hips and tailbone was my only complain since radiation.

    Hip /Tailbone Pain
    Culka,

    I'm not understanding what your saying on your last sentence above. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY HIP PAIN AND THIS WAS ONLY COMPLAINT SINCE RADIATION. Do you mean the pain went away after lots of fasting?

    Curious...as I had external rad and chemo and today 1-1/2 years later have some lower back pain and now pain is traveling down my one leg. I try certain yoga positions, exercising (non impacted) and of course the standard good eating habits. I'm clueless, but assume all attributed to my radiation. My deductible is very high so for now, trying my own healing and open to suggestions.

    Any insight?

    Thanks,
    Jan
  • Susanna23
    Susanna23 Member Posts: 66 Member
    Rewriter said:

    Anticancer Lifestyle
    Maybe we can start this thread again. What is everyone doing to complement traditional treatments (or, in some cases, in place of traditional treatments)?

    I had Stage 1a UPSC, which my gyne-onc told me from the get-go (surgery May 2008) has a pretty good prognosis. I had six rounds of carbo-taxol, then five brachytherapy treatments. Since then, I have completely changed my diet and have started a rigorous (for me) exercise program.

    Now, I am mostly vegetarian, with minimal fish and chicken. For protein, fiber, and iron, I eat grains (quinoa, kasha, spelt) and legumes (all kinds of beans and lentils).

    I limit myself to about three ounces of low-fat cheese a week and two tablespoonsful of yogurt daily. Eggs are not part of my diet, except for rare occasions. I've lowered my cholesterol 60 points (it was never high enough to require meds) and want to keep it really low, so I'll have egg whites instead (not too often).

    Whole fruit and vegetables are really important, and I try to have five servings a day. This is challenging, since I also want to be a locavore; but I DO eat berries and oranges.

    The MOST important dietary change I've made is to give up ALL sugar. I even stay away from honey and maple syrup and substitute pureed fruit.

    I put turmeric on EVERYTHING, in vegetable stews, on whole grain bread, in whole wheat pasta dishes. It's best to add some warm olive oil and fresh ground pepper to the turmeric, which a study at M.D. Anderson showed to be a cancer fighter.

    Ginger is part of my program, too. I try to eat a thin raw slice daily, but I have to admit that I am not so great about following this routine.

    Green tea, too, is a very potent cancer fighter. The best tea is the kind available in Asian markets, considered to contain two to three times more beneficial substances than US-produced tea.

    I'm the opposite of a gym (rat? bunny?), but I love to explore nearby neighborhoods. So, in better weather (I live in Brooklyn, NY), my friend and I walk to a neighborhood that is about seven miles away. We've gotten strong enough so that often we will walk back home. After 14 miles in one day, I feel pretty tired but healthier as well.

    I'm now passing the talking stick...

    Ladies - I am very interested in this discussion!
    I've stage 1a uterine carcinosarcoma and coming up to my third carbo/taxol adjuvant treatment after surgery. I have been OK regarding side effects for which I am very grateful.
    I have stayed away from all supplements during treatment but intend to do vitamin D3 at the very least when it is over. I am taking turmeric, black pepper and a mix of flax seed and other oils daily in food (soup etc) except for chemo week. Lots of berries, lemons etc all the time....exercise, walk (10,000 steps measured by pedometer if poss) or swim everyday.
    The thing I really wanted to mention is that there is a free complementary medicine service in my chemo ward at UCLH (London) and I have Reiki healing there. I bought a book on it and now do the Reiki chakra meditation most mornings in bed before rising. I am thinking of continuing the Reiki with a healer, if I can find one, once the chemo is over in April. Anyone else got experience of this? I think it has a good reputation as a support during chemo and there is a trial going on with it in prostate cancer.
    I also use a machine called Resperate which lowers your breathing rate into a therapeutic zone (less than 10 breaths a minute) - four or five times a week. I started it to help treat high blood pressure and I reckon it can't do any harm for other purposes!
    Hope you are all doing well
    Susan
  • culka
    culka Member Posts: 149 Member
    jazzy1 said:

    Hip /Tailbone Pain
    Culka,

    I'm not understanding what your saying on your last sentence above. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY HIP PAIN AND THIS WAS ONLY COMPLAINT SINCE RADIATION. Do you mean the pain went away after lots of fasting?

    Curious...as I had external rad and chemo and today 1-1/2 years later have some lower back pain and now pain is traveling down my one leg. I try certain yoga positions, exercising (non impacted) and of course the standard good eating habits. I'm clueless, but assume all attributed to my radiation. My deductible is very high so for now, trying my own healing and open to suggestions.

    Any insight?

    Thanks,
    Jan

    Yes my dear
    I'm scared to say it loudly, but I'm pain free for almost 4 months. Tailbone pain came back after a month or so, but hips are still fine.
    With my diet I was always able to get rid of pain for few days or even weeks, but it always came back.

    If you want to fast, find as much information as possible.
  • HellieC
    HellieC Member Posts: 524 Member
    Susanna23 said:

    Ladies - I am very interested in this discussion!
    I've stage 1a uterine carcinosarcoma and coming up to my third carbo/taxol adjuvant treatment after surgery. I have been OK regarding side effects for which I am very grateful.
    I have stayed away from all supplements during treatment but intend to do vitamin D3 at the very least when it is over. I am taking turmeric, black pepper and a mix of flax seed and other oils daily in food (soup etc) except for chemo week. Lots of berries, lemons etc all the time....exercise, walk (10,000 steps measured by pedometer if poss) or swim everyday.
    The thing I really wanted to mention is that there is a free complementary medicine service in my chemo ward at UCLH (London) and I have Reiki healing there. I bought a book on it and now do the Reiki chakra meditation most mornings in bed before rising. I am thinking of continuing the Reiki with a healer, if I can find one, once the chemo is over in April. Anyone else got experience of this? I think it has a good reputation as a support during chemo and there is a trial going on with it in prostate cancer.
    I also use a machine called Resperate which lowers your breathing rate into a therapeutic zone (less than 10 breaths a minute) - four or five times a week. I started it to help treat high blood pressure and I reckon it can't do any harm for other purposes!
    Hope you are all doing well
    Susan

    My supplements
    Hi
    I've just finished 6 rounds of carbo/taxol after surgery for a second recurrence of endometrial adenocarcinoma in the pelvic area.
    I am trying to follow a healthier diet (based on the Anti cancer book and also the Penny Brohn cancer centre diet in Bristol, England). So lots more veggies and fruit (love those blueberries on my muesli for breakfast), nuts and seeds, small amounts of animal protein (fish and chicken), minimal dairy (but I do use semi skimmed milk on muesli, occasional free range eggs etc. I try to buy organic produce, but often there is not a wide choice where I live, so I wash all my fruit and veggies in "Veggi Wash" to remove as much harmful stuff as possible.
    I am taking the following supplements daily:
    a general multivitamin with iron
    2000 IU vitamin D3 (the "sunshine" vitamin)
    2000 mg Vitamin C
    3000 mg Vitamin B17 (derived from apricol kernels - also known as laetrile or amygdalin)
    I am also building up to eating 18 apricot kernels a day (10 kernels per 1 lb of body weight).
    Next step is to include turmeric (mixed with pepper and olive oil).

    Would love to hear about other diet ideas
    Take care, everyone
    Helen
  • jazzy1
    jazzy1 Member Posts: 1,379
    HellieC said:

    My supplements
    Hi
    I've just finished 6 rounds of carbo/taxol after surgery for a second recurrence of endometrial adenocarcinoma in the pelvic area.
    I am trying to follow a healthier diet (based on the Anti cancer book and also the Penny Brohn cancer centre diet in Bristol, England). So lots more veggies and fruit (love those blueberries on my muesli for breakfast), nuts and seeds, small amounts of animal protein (fish and chicken), minimal dairy (but I do use semi skimmed milk on muesli, occasional free range eggs etc. I try to buy organic produce, but often there is not a wide choice where I live, so I wash all my fruit and veggies in "Veggi Wash" to remove as much harmful stuff as possible.
    I am taking the following supplements daily:
    a general multivitamin with iron
    2000 IU vitamin D3 (the "sunshine" vitamin)
    2000 mg Vitamin C
    3000 mg Vitamin B17 (derived from apricol kernels - also known as laetrile or amygdalin)
    I am also building up to eating 18 apricot kernels a day (10 kernels per 1 lb of body weight).
    Next step is to include turmeric (mixed with pepper and olive oil).

    Would love to hear about other diet ideas
    Take care, everyone
    Helen

    Wonderul ideas!
    Helen,

    I'll add a few to your list since you asked.

    . Calcium 1200-1500 -- this helps absorption of Vit D3 -- work together!
    . Omega 3
    . Fish oil
    . Green tea (4 cups per day is Anti Cancer recommendation)Note, Claudia recommended adding lemon juice to increase the potency
    . Berries..berries..berries -- if not in season, I purchase frozen "organic"

    View the Dirty Dozen list of the fruits/vegies with the highest level of pesticides. If not highest, save the money and purchase at local grocer.

    I've got a list of the spices/herbs with highest ANTIOXIDANTS. Cinnamon is tops, as add it to my oatmeal each morning, top of whole wheat bagel with almond butter and to my green tea tea.

    Knowing "grass fed" is best for beef and chicken, I've decided to not spend the extra monies and stick with more fruits and vegies. Almost becoming a vegetarian.

    Exercise -- big deal with recurrences. I've sat in on lecture from a local researcher/doc who suggests 30+ min/day of exercise. I go above this level as been a workout girl since the age of 18 yrs. Move it!!!

    Destressor activities -- such as Reiki, yoga and/or visualization.

    Nutritionist suggested very little dairy...even with "organic" still many things in the product which isn't good for us.

    Watch plastic products...many have too much BPA. Numbers 1, 2 and 4 are the best! Look on bottom of all containers. I use "aluminum" container for water when at the gym. Most all of my plastic storage containers are gone and I use mainly GLASS.

    Cancer feeds on sugar --- my biggest downfall! Try switching to nuts or frozen grapes..yummie!

    One area I've neglected -- household, cosmetics, toiletries. Next on my list to tackle...suggestions in this area?

    Any more ideas?

    Best to you everyone!
    Jan
  • HellieC
    HellieC Member Posts: 524 Member
    jazzy1 said:

    Wonderul ideas!
    Helen,

    I'll add a few to your list since you asked.

    . Calcium 1200-1500 -- this helps absorption of Vit D3 -- work together!
    . Omega 3
    . Fish oil
    . Green tea (4 cups per day is Anti Cancer recommendation)Note, Claudia recommended adding lemon juice to increase the potency
    . Berries..berries..berries -- if not in season, I purchase frozen "organic"

    View the Dirty Dozen list of the fruits/vegies with the highest level of pesticides. If not highest, save the money and purchase at local grocer.

    I've got a list of the spices/herbs with highest ANTIOXIDANTS. Cinnamon is tops, as add it to my oatmeal each morning, top of whole wheat bagel with almond butter and to my green tea tea.

    Knowing "grass fed" is best for beef and chicken, I've decided to not spend the extra monies and stick with more fruits and vegies. Almost becoming a vegetarian.

    Exercise -- big deal with recurrences. I've sat in on lecture from a local researcher/doc who suggests 30+ min/day of exercise. I go above this level as been a workout girl since the age of 18 yrs. Move it!!!

    Destressor activities -- such as Reiki, yoga and/or visualization.

    Nutritionist suggested very little dairy...even with "organic" still many things in the product which isn't good for us.

    Watch plastic products...many have too much BPA. Numbers 1, 2 and 4 are the best! Look on bottom of all containers. I use "aluminum" container for water when at the gym. Most all of my plastic storage containers are gone and I use mainly GLASS.

    Cancer feeds on sugar --- my biggest downfall! Try switching to nuts or frozen grapes..yummie!

    One area I've neglected -- household, cosmetics, toiletries. Next on my list to tackle...suggestions in this area?

    Any more ideas?

    Best to you everyone!
    Jan

    Excellent suggestions, Jan
    Thanks for all the additional information, Jan. I forgot to put green tea on my list, but I am drinking it daily.
    I will definitely be adding calcium as the multivitamin I take only contains a small amount. Also will be adding Omega 3 and zinc (just read that vitamin B17 needs zinc to work at optimum level).
    The "Dirty Dozen" fruit and veggies list is permanently in my handbag (purse), as chemo brain means I can't memorise it!
    I am starting to get back to walking and I am aiming for 30 - 60 mins per day, as I get my strength back from the chemo.
    I am in your camp as far as sugar is concerned - finding it really hard to give it up and I do fall off the wagon occasionally, but the frozen grapes (an old Weightwatchers idea) is a really good one.
    At this rate, I will be having to get up an hour earlier each day to fit in all my supplements!
    Warmest wishes
    Helen
  • Cler
    Cler Member Posts: 26
    HellieC said:

    Excellent suggestions, Jan
    Thanks for all the additional information, Jan. I forgot to put green tea on my list, but I am drinking it daily.
    I will definitely be adding calcium as the multivitamin I take only contains a small amount. Also will be adding Omega 3 and zinc (just read that vitamin B17 needs zinc to work at optimum level).
    The "Dirty Dozen" fruit and veggies list is permanently in my handbag (purse), as chemo brain means I can't memorise it!
    I am starting to get back to walking and I am aiming for 30 - 60 mins per day, as I get my strength back from the chemo.
    I am in your camp as far as sugar is concerned - finding it really hard to give it up and I do fall off the wagon occasionally, but the frozen grapes (an old Weightwatchers idea) is a really good one.
    At this rate, I will be having to get up an hour earlier each day to fit in all my supplements!
    Warmest wishes
    Helen

    Hello everyone,
    I think the

    Hello everyone,

    I think the kinds of treatments and approaches discussed in this thread are vital for cancer patients. It really gives us a sense of being able to control and contribute to our treatments. Sometimes, on the conveyor belt of conventional chemo, radio etc you can feel quite passive and over-whelmed by treatments given to you. It feels good to take some control back.

    I am living in London. I had a recurrence to a lymph node under my arm immediately following chemo and Brachytherapy. I have just had surgery to remove all the lymph nodes under my arm (ouch!!)I have results tomorrow so maybe things will change but am on a wait and watch protocol currently.

    I have changed my diet to a vegan, mostly raw diet. I take a range of supplements inc anti-oxidants, vitamins, omega oils. In addition a plant supplement called salvestrol and biobran from the Penny Brohn Cancer center here in the UK. (In the US it is known as MGN3 and I believe is banned by the FDA although in Europe it is widely used for cancer.) Both of these boost the immune system and have no toxic side effects. I am eating no sugar. I have green tea every day, turmeric in oil and pepper, and a green juice made form broccoli, kale, cucumber etc. (Kris Carr's recipe)

    I have been referred to the Homeopathic hospital in London which was amazing. My doctor here is so positive. I have been prescribed Iscador - an immune system booster made from mistletoe. It seems to have had some dramatic results. (Again I do not think it is available in the US but is widely used, and respected in Europe). I am also having acupuncture, reflexology, and visualisation a meditation here. I am also walking everyday and as soon as my arm has recovered from the latest surgery I'll be back to doing yoga.

    As well as David Servan Schrieber's book, I would also recommend Crazy, Sexy Cancer - Kris Carr's website, documentary and books. She believes everyone should replace the word 'patient' with 'survivor' from day one.

    Future plans include FAR Infared saunas, juice detoxing, and a water inoniser.

    It is a huge lifestyle change and it does take up time to implement but it also feels tremendously positive. I don't know if it will make a difference to my prognosis but I guess we'll see... watch this space...

    Clêr X
  • Susanna23
    Susanna23 Member Posts: 66 Member
    Cler said:

    Hello everyone,
    I think the

    Hello everyone,

    I think the kinds of treatments and approaches discussed in this thread are vital for cancer patients. It really gives us a sense of being able to control and contribute to our treatments. Sometimes, on the conveyor belt of conventional chemo, radio etc you can feel quite passive and over-whelmed by treatments given to you. It feels good to take some control back.

    I am living in London. I had a recurrence to a lymph node under my arm immediately following chemo and Brachytherapy. I have just had surgery to remove all the lymph nodes under my arm (ouch!!)I have results tomorrow so maybe things will change but am on a wait and watch protocol currently.

    I have changed my diet to a vegan, mostly raw diet. I take a range of supplements inc anti-oxidants, vitamins, omega oils. In addition a plant supplement called salvestrol and biobran from the Penny Brohn Cancer center here in the UK. (In the US it is known as MGN3 and I believe is banned by the FDA although in Europe it is widely used for cancer.) Both of these boost the immune system and have no toxic side effects. I am eating no sugar. I have green tea every day, turmeric in oil and pepper, and a green juice made form broccoli, kale, cucumber etc. (Kris Carr's recipe)

    I have been referred to the Homeopathic hospital in London which was amazing. My doctor here is so positive. I have been prescribed Iscador - an immune system booster made from mistletoe. It seems to have had some dramatic results. (Again I do not think it is available in the US but is widely used, and respected in Europe). I am also having acupuncture, reflexology, and visualisation a meditation here. I am also walking everyday and as soon as my arm has recovered from the latest surgery I'll be back to doing yoga.

    As well as David Servan Schrieber's book, I would also recommend Crazy, Sexy Cancer - Kris Carr's website, documentary and books. She believes everyone should replace the word 'patient' with 'survivor' from day one.

    Future plans include FAR Infared saunas, juice detoxing, and a water inoniser.

    It is a huge lifestyle change and it does take up time to implement but it also feels tremendously positive. I don't know if it will make a difference to my prognosis but I guess we'll see... watch this space...

    Clêr X

    Your interesting ideas
    Dear Cler
    I was very interested to hear of all the things you are doing. I pick up new ideas all the time from posts like yours. I've just been given a jar of fresh turmeric pieces by an Asian friend as an alternative to the powder. She also mentioned mistletoe to me so I was fascinated to hear this was on offer at the Homeopathic Hospital - when I googled it I just came up with a clinic in the North of Scotland. I am not sure I could take it on as I am in the middle of adjuvant chemo of carbo/taxol and I don't know anyone who could advise me about how to integrate the treatments (do you? I am in London too - as I mentioned previously there are complementary treatments at UCLH but I wouldn't say they were integrated - more an optional extra). For the same reason, I am not on any supplements at present although, like Helen who posts here too, I will be taking a few when I am through my treatment.
    I would like to know what a far infrared sauna is, and a water ioniser. Juice detoxing I understand - don't have a juicer at present but there's a local juice bar that does me a takeaway carrot, ginger and lime (lots of ginger) a few times a week. Do you make the green juice yourself - what does it taste like? I know the Kris Carr book - think I will take another look at it.
    Anyway, thanks very much for all the info - and best of luck with your results. Hope you will post again soon - will be looking to hear from you
    Best regards
    Susan x
  • culka
    culka Member Posts: 149 Member
    Susanna23 said:

    Your interesting ideas
    Dear Cler
    I was very interested to hear of all the things you are doing. I pick up new ideas all the time from posts like yours. I've just been given a jar of fresh turmeric pieces by an Asian friend as an alternative to the powder. She also mentioned mistletoe to me so I was fascinated to hear this was on offer at the Homeopathic Hospital - when I googled it I just came up with a clinic in the North of Scotland. I am not sure I could take it on as I am in the middle of adjuvant chemo of carbo/taxol and I don't know anyone who could advise me about how to integrate the treatments (do you? I am in London too - as I mentioned previously there are complementary treatments at UCLH but I wouldn't say they were integrated - more an optional extra). For the same reason, I am not on any supplements at present although, like Helen who posts here too, I will be taking a few when I am through my treatment.
    I would like to know what a far infrared sauna is, and a water ioniser. Juice detoxing I understand - don't have a juicer at present but there's a local juice bar that does me a takeaway carrot, ginger and lime (lots of ginger) a few times a week. Do you make the green juice yourself - what does it taste like? I know the Kris Carr book - think I will take another look at it.
    Anyway, thanks very much for all the info - and best of luck with your results. Hope you will post again soon - will be looking to hear from you
    Best regards
    Susan x

    Hi Susan
    Before Clear will let you know, I'll share the taste info with you. My green juice from anything green around my house taste awful, but banana make it good.
    Greens = dandelions, purslane, spinach, kale, celery, parsley, beets, any weeds you can see.
    You can read more about that in Viktoria Boutenko book "Green for Life"
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493 Member
    culka said:

    Hi Susan
    Before Clear will let you know, I'll share the taste info with you. My green juice from anything green around my house taste awful, but banana make it good.
    Greens = dandelions, purslane, spinach, kale, celery, parsley, beets, any weeds you can see.
    You can read more about that in Viktoria Boutenko book "Green for Life"

    Alkaline Diet
    Here's a link to a chart that indicates the level of acidity in most commonly eaten foods.


    http://acidalkalinediet.com/listofalkalinefoods.pdf


    I'd be interested to hear how people who follow this diet make sure that they get enough iron.

    Jill
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493 Member
    Rewriter said:

    Alkaline Diet
    Here's a link to a chart that indicates the level of acidity in most commonly eaten foods.


    http://acidalkalinediet.com/listofalkalinefoods.pdf


    I'd be interested to hear how people who follow this diet make sure that they get enough iron.

    Jill

    Tofu and other soy products
    If I had USPC, which I don't believe responds to estrogen, can I eat soy products every once in a while?
  • Cler
    Cler Member Posts: 26
    Susanna23 said:

    Your interesting ideas
    Dear Cler
    I was very interested to hear of all the things you are doing. I pick up new ideas all the time from posts like yours. I've just been given a jar of fresh turmeric pieces by an Asian friend as an alternative to the powder. She also mentioned mistletoe to me so I was fascinated to hear this was on offer at the Homeopathic Hospital - when I googled it I just came up with a clinic in the North of Scotland. I am not sure I could take it on as I am in the middle of adjuvant chemo of carbo/taxol and I don't know anyone who could advise me about how to integrate the treatments (do you? I am in London too - as I mentioned previously there are complementary treatments at UCLH but I wouldn't say they were integrated - more an optional extra). For the same reason, I am not on any supplements at present although, like Helen who posts here too, I will be taking a few when I am through my treatment.
    I would like to know what a far infrared sauna is, and a water ioniser. Juice detoxing I understand - don't have a juicer at present but there's a local juice bar that does me a takeaway carrot, ginger and lime (lots of ginger) a few times a week. Do you make the green juice yourself - what does it taste like? I know the Kris Carr book - think I will take another look at it.
    Anyway, thanks very much for all the info - and best of luck with your results. Hope you will post again soon - will be looking to hear from you
    Best regards
    Susan x

    Also UCLH
    Hello Susan,

    Sorry for the delay in responding. I have been back and forth to hospital since my axillary lymph clearance with sermomas so haven't even logged in this week!

    I too am at UCLH. I requested a referral to The Hospital for Alternative Medicine on Great Ormond Street via my consultant and clinical nurse specialist. (We probably have the same doctors!)They do the referral. At the appointment the homeopathic doctor will ultimately decide what is the right approach for your case but I requested Iscador and they agreed so no doubt you will also be able to. Have you had a recurrence? They would definitely be able to advise you on how to integrate it into your chemo treatment and I understand this is common practice and has good results. I wish I knew about it when I was in chemo and wonder if this would have had an impact on my recurrence.

    I am still researching saunas and ionisors so will repost when I know more. I don't want to post anything inaccurate!

    I have a juicer and make the green juice at home. I think it tastes fine but I really liked all that healthy stuff before cancer but give it a go - it can't hurt! Ask your juice bar to mix up cucumber, kale, romaine, green apple, celery, ginger and see what you think? Add some lecithin granules to support your liver during chemo. I have liver damage from the chemo - it will repair I am told in time.

    I will post again when I have more info. For me, going to the Homeopathic Hospital was the most positive experience of this whole cancer journey. Everything they told me resonated.

    xx
  • Cler
    Cler Member Posts: 26
    Cler said:

    Also UCLH
    Hello Susan,

    Sorry for the delay in responding. I have been back and forth to hospital since my axillary lymph clearance with sermomas so haven't even logged in this week!

    I too am at UCLH. I requested a referral to The Hospital for Alternative Medicine on Great Ormond Street via my consultant and clinical nurse specialist. (We probably have the same doctors!)They do the referral. At the appointment the homeopathic doctor will ultimately decide what is the right approach for your case but I requested Iscador and they agreed so no doubt you will also be able to. Have you had a recurrence? They would definitely be able to advise you on how to integrate it into your chemo treatment and I understand this is common practice and has good results. I wish I knew about it when I was in chemo and wonder if this would have had an impact on my recurrence.

    I am still researching saunas and ionisors so will repost when I know more. I don't want to post anything inaccurate!

    I have a juicer and make the green juice at home. I think it tastes fine but I really liked all that healthy stuff before cancer but give it a go - it can't hurt! Ask your juice bar to mix up cucumber, kale, romaine, green apple, celery, ginger and see what you think? Add some lecithin granules to support your liver during chemo. I have liver damage from the chemo - it will repair I am told in time.

    I will post again when I have more info. For me, going to the Homeopathic Hospital was the most positive experience of this whole cancer journey. Everything they told me resonated.

    xx

    PS
    PS: Here is a link to some clinical trial papers about Iscador. It is very encouraging to read about. http://www.iscador.com/clinical-studies/index.aspx

    xx
  • Susanna23
    Susanna23 Member Posts: 66 Member
    Cler said:

    Also UCLH
    Hello Susan,

    Sorry for the delay in responding. I have been back and forth to hospital since my axillary lymph clearance with sermomas so haven't even logged in this week!

    I too am at UCLH. I requested a referral to The Hospital for Alternative Medicine on Great Ormond Street via my consultant and clinical nurse specialist. (We probably have the same doctors!)They do the referral. At the appointment the homeopathic doctor will ultimately decide what is the right approach for your case but I requested Iscador and they agreed so no doubt you will also be able to. Have you had a recurrence? They would definitely be able to advise you on how to integrate it into your chemo treatment and I understand this is common practice and has good results. I wish I knew about it when I was in chemo and wonder if this would have had an impact on my recurrence.

    I am still researching saunas and ionisors so will repost when I know more. I don't want to post anything inaccurate!

    I have a juicer and make the green juice at home. I think it tastes fine but I really liked all that healthy stuff before cancer but give it a go - it can't hurt! Ask your juice bar to mix up cucumber, kale, romaine, green apple, celery, ginger and see what you think? Add some lecithin granules to support your liver during chemo. I have liver damage from the chemo - it will repair I am told in time.

    I will post again when I have more info. For me, going to the Homeopathic Hospital was the most positive experience of this whole cancer journey. Everything they told me resonated.

    xx

    Green juice etc
    Thanks very much for the reply Cler. No, I have not had a recurrence - I am having adjuvant chemo after surgery to reduce the risk of that happening. But the info about the referral process is most welcome.
    I am inspired - I think I will buy a juicer! I have long been a fan of green veg but only recently discovered kale and pak choi, which I like very much. Thank you so much for the green juice recipe idea.
    Look forward to hearing more of your research
    Susan xx
  • moonwatcher
    moonwatcher Member Posts: 5
    Rewriter said:

    Anticancer Lifestyle
    Maybe we can start this thread again. What is everyone doing to complement traditional treatments (or, in some cases, in place of traditional treatments)?

    I had Stage 1a UPSC, which my gyne-onc told me from the get-go (surgery May 2008) has a pretty good prognosis. I had six rounds of carbo-taxol, then five brachytherapy treatments. Since then, I have completely changed my diet and have started a rigorous (for me) exercise program.

    Now, I am mostly vegetarian, with minimal fish and chicken. For protein, fiber, and iron, I eat grains (quinoa, kasha, spelt) and legumes (all kinds of beans and lentils).

    I limit myself to about three ounces of low-fat cheese a week and two tablespoonsful of yogurt daily. Eggs are not part of my diet, except for rare occasions. I've lowered my cholesterol 60 points (it was never high enough to require meds) and want to keep it really low, so I'll have egg whites instead (not too often).

    Whole fruit and vegetables are really important, and I try to have five servings a day. This is challenging, since I also want to be a locavore; but I DO eat berries and oranges.

    The MOST important dietary change I've made is to give up ALL sugar. I even stay away from honey and maple syrup and substitute pureed fruit.

    I put turmeric on EVERYTHING, in vegetable stews, on whole grain bread, in whole wheat pasta dishes. It's best to add some warm olive oil and fresh ground pepper to the turmeric, which a study at M.D. Anderson showed to be a cancer fighter.

    Ginger is part of my program, too. I try to eat a thin raw slice daily, but I have to admit that I am not so great about following this routine.

    Green tea, too, is a very potent cancer fighter. The best tea is the kind available in Asian markets, considered to contain two to three times more beneficial substances than US-produced tea.

    I'm the opposite of a gym (rat? bunny?), but I love to explore nearby neighborhoods. So, in better weather (I live in Brooklyn, NY), my friend and I walk to a neighborhood that is about seven miles away. We've gotten strong enough so that often we will walk back home. After 14 miles in one day, I feel pretty tired but healthier as well.

    I'm now passing the talking stick...

    picking up the stick
    I'm new here and my diagnosis is the same as yours, I had radiation with 5 treatments. My surgery was 11/09 and treatment until April 2010. I am also doing the Anticancer diet and have changed my diet and life a lot, sort of driving my family crazy a bit.

    Have you ever tried eating ginger bits with almonds makes a big difference, just learned this from Dr. Weil. I drink Japanese green tea bulk and am now trying to go Vegan after reading the Veganist. I do mostly what you do but trying to stay away from wheat as well.

    I am a little uneasy about my latest CA 125 going from 13 to 22, nurse did say different machine. But because I have now newly discovered lymphedema in my right calf which was previously thought neropathy from chemo, I got an ultrasound and they found no blood clot. But gyn/onc here in Houston at M D Anderson wants to do an Cat scan because it's nearly a year since the chemo stopped, etc.

    I must stop now and will try to log on next week and write more about diet, etc. I am very interested about your diet plan. We sold a house in another state and need to go move some things back to Houston.

    Lynda