We're jumping on the juicing bandwagon!

Nana2
Nana2 Member Posts: 255
in Colorectal Cancer #1
Last week our car radiator took a dump along with my computer which we just got back up and running, so I've been out of touch here a bit. Jim couldn't get his treatment last Monday because his WBC was low. 1.4 Then he started running a temp mostly at night even as high as 102. They finally put him on an antibiotic and the fevers stopped. Now his temp is mostly below normal. Anyone else experience fevers with no apparent cause? We didn't really want him to get a treatment anyway last week because he was feeling so horrible from the chemo. We are waiting to get our appointment set with Cancer Treatments Centers of America and are looking forward to getting some direction on getting healthier and fighting this cancer with nutrition along with less toxic doses of chemo. We have already started juicing (can't believe how good it tastes) I even have the grandchildren helping and sharing the juices. There is soooooo much to know though, it's overwhelming. Have to be careful while he is still on coumadin, and have to watch out around chemo time. We are down to one cup of coffee a day with xylitol instead of sugar. Then we subsitute green tea with honey whenever we're craving another hot cup of coffee. I hope honey is okay to use.
We're only drinking about one glass of juice per day to start with. Carrots, celery, green apple and tomatoes. Hope this is an okay mixture. We're just throwing in what tastes good. Did spinich once but remembered his coumadin and thought I better skip that. Any suggestions for how much and how often he should drink the juice? I know we need to lay off during chemo, but in between should be alright correct?
Also heard that asparagus cooked and pureed about 4 oz. three times daily is some new thing that is having a great affect for cancer patients. A friend of ours is going to send us some information on it. Can't hurt right? So we may try that too.
Let me know how much and how often you guys think is good on the juicing. Thanks in advance.
April

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  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member
    #2
    Gerson Method
    Hi April,

    You may want to reference The Gerson Method for amounts.

    There are some good books on juicing regimens:

    A Cancer Battle Plan by Anne Frahm

    Crazy Sexy Cancer Tips by Kris Carr (she also has a website--www.crazysexycancer.com)

    When I was healing from cancer I juiced 3 quarts a day but that's not optimal. Gerson recommends 12 - 8 oz glasses / day. I was nursing a toddler and homeschooling 3 kids (and one off at school) at the time and running a farm ministry so I didn't really have the time (or energy) to juice ALL day long and opted to combine the juicing into 3 x's/day rather than 12.

    Hope this helps.

    peace, emily
  • Nana2
    Nana2 Member Posts: 255
    #3
    2bhealed said:

    Gerson Method
    Hi April,

    You may want to reference The Gerson Method for amounts.

    There are some good books on juicing regimens:

    A Cancer Battle Plan by Anne Frahm

    Crazy Sexy Cancer Tips by Kris Carr (she also has a website--www.crazysexycancer.com)

    When I was healing from cancer I juiced 3 quarts a day but that's not optimal. Gerson recommends 12 - 8 oz glasses / day. I was nursing a toddler and homeschooling 3 kids (and one off at school) at the time and running a farm ministry so I didn't really have the time (or energy) to juice ALL day long and opted to combine the juicing into 3 x's/day rather than 12.

    Hope this helps.

    peace, emily

    Thanks so much Emily, I was
    Thanks so much Emily, I was just writing your juicing and lemonaide recipes from the other thread. I will pick up those books. Someone else was just telling me about the Gerson method.
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
    #4
    April
    Hi April,

    Glad to hear that you and Jim are now juicing and looking into things to help both your health and Jim's cancer! A suggestion on the honey: I love honey too, but I've heard that blue agave nectar doesn't have as high of a glycemic index, if that's a concern. Blue agave nectar is really tasty and kind of has a look like honey, but its consistency is thinner than honey. I've found that I can find it sometimes at Costco, but I normally get it at either Henry's or Trader Joe's. Although now I'm foregoing any type of sweetener at all in my tea (no more coffee for me- just herbal teas), I had been substituting the blue agave nectar for the sugar/honey/xylitol, etc. I know stevia is supposed to be a good sweetener, but I personally don't care for it & liked the agave nectar better.
    Just something new to try :)

    Take care & keep us updated on Jim.

    Hugs,
    Lisa
  • Nana2
    Nana2 Member Posts: 255
    #5
    lisa42 said:

    April
    Hi April,

    Glad to hear that you and Jim are now juicing and looking into things to help both your health and Jim's cancer! A suggestion on the honey: I love honey too, but I've heard that blue agave nectar doesn't have as high of a glycemic index, if that's a concern. Blue agave nectar is really tasty and kind of has a look like honey, but its consistency is thinner than honey. I've found that I can find it sometimes at Costco, but I normally get it at either Henry's or Trader Joe's. Although now I'm foregoing any type of sweetener at all in my tea (no more coffee for me- just herbal teas), I had been substituting the blue agave nectar for the sugar/honey/xylitol, etc. I know stevia is supposed to be a good sweetener, but I personally don't care for it & liked the agave nectar better.
    Just something new to try :)

    Take care & keep us updated on Jim.

    Hugs,
    Lisa

    Thanks so much Lisa, I will
    Thanks so much Lisa, I will get some. I think I saw it at "Fruitful Yield" a store near our home. I'm not fond of the stevia either, or the xylitol for that matter so if I can find something we like better that would be great.
  • scouty
    scouty Member Posts: 1,965 Member
    #6
    Hi April
    I juiced twice a day 14-16 oz each.

    Last spring I discovered something that I am now hooked on and you don't need a juicer, only a blender.

    I got the idea from an appetizer and I call it Liquid Sunshine and make about 12-14 oz. at a time. It is the most refreshing and invigorating drink I have ever had and a great shot of zest. AND there is nothing in it that should interfere with chemo!

    The amounts of each of the ingredients are totally up to you and your taste buds. I had booty cancer so I don't do spicy or hot (never really did) but think those that like it could add it.

    tomato quarters
    a chunk of cucumber
    1 slice of sweet onion
    1/2 clove of garlic
    slice of green bell pepper
    olive oil
    red wine vinegar
    sea salt and pepper to taste
    water if needed to help the ole blender do it's thing

    Put it all in a blender and puree! YUMMY and like juicing it gives your stomach and liver a break from having to digest food without compromising nutrients!

    Lisa P.
  • Nana b
    Nana b Member Posts: 3,030 Member
    #7
    scouty said:

    Hi April
    I juiced twice a day 14-16 oz each.

    Last spring I discovered something that I am now hooked on and you don't need a juicer, only a blender.

    I got the idea from an appetizer and I call it Liquid Sunshine and make about 12-14 oz. at a time. It is the most refreshing and invigorating drink I have ever had and a great shot of zest. AND there is nothing in it that should interfere with chemo!

    The amounts of each of the ingredients are totally up to you and your taste buds. I had booty cancer so I don't do spicy or hot (never really did) but think those that like it could add it.

    tomato quarters
    a chunk of cucumber
    1 slice of sweet onion
    1/2 clove of garlic
    slice of green bell pepper
    olive oil
    red wine vinegar
    sea salt and pepper to taste
    water if needed to help the ole blender do it's thing

    Put it all in a blender and puree! YUMMY and like juicing it gives your stomach and liver a break from having to digest food without compromising nutrients!

    Lisa P.

    Hi
    Every morning I blend rasberries, black berries, blue berries, strawberries, an orange, and an apple, I them add all my herb supplement, milk thistle, red grape extract, Ginger root, and ginseng, I also add 2 jiggers of pure aloe. Add a scoop of
    Supreme greens and reds. I alternate the orange and apples, with other fruits

    I juice veggies, if I juice, carrots, spinach, kale, bok Choy, cucumber, apples, cabbage, asparagus, and/or beets Whatever I have.

    I puree hit asparagus, broccoli, or cauliflower with some hot water and chicken bouillon for soups.

    I sauté greens with onion and garlic and tomato.

    Eat salads with beet shavings, dried cranberries, almonds, flax seed, sunflower sees, walnuts

    Make organic eggs with, spiniach, mushrooms, tomato and /or avocado. No cheese.

    I make home made tomato basil soup, marinaria, and salsa because I know that cooked tomatoes kill cancer cells.

    I eat lentils


    Hope this gives you ideas. I am not on chemo but in remission, so you may want to ask about all of these antioxidants



    No beef.
  • schnauzerheads
    schnauzerheads Member Posts: 53 Member
    #8
    Getting juiced
    This is a really great post, I'm mainly writing to say thanks for bringing it up. I've been hearing so many different things about the importance of good nutrition but some antioxidants being counterproductive to the chemo, etc etc and juicing is something I've been looking at with all of this in mind. All of the comments resulting from your post are helping me along that road, so thanks from Texas, and happy juicing.

    Kevin
  • Nana2
    Nana2 Member Posts: 255
    #9
    Thanks everyone, and Kevin
    Thanks everyone, and Kevin we're always so glad when the posts help someone else! That's why we do it. Nana, I wondered how you puree those asparagus? Do you boil them first and then put them in the blender or do I need a food processor?
    I've copied the recipes and am excited about how good the juice tastes. Since we're trying to break the coffee habit, having something this wonderful to replace it with is terrific! He got his treatment today so we'll lay off for a few days.
    What can I make him using the protien powder that will be as tasty as his milkshakes only without ice cream? I want to avoid all the sugar.

    Thanks again everyone, your input helps so much!
    April
  • scouty
    scouty Member Posts: 1,965 Member
    #10
    Nana2 said:

    Thanks everyone, and Kevin
    Thanks everyone, and Kevin we're always so glad when the posts help someone else! That's why we do it. Nana, I wondered how you puree those asparagus? Do you boil them first and then put them in the blender or do I need a food processor?
    I've copied the recipes and am excited about how good the juice tastes. Since we're trying to break the coffee habit, having something this wonderful to replace it with is terrific! He got his treatment today so we'll lay off for a few days.
    What can I make him using the protien powder that will be as tasty as his milkshakes only without ice cream? I want to avoid all the sugar.

    Thanks again everyone, your input helps so much!
    April

    lowfat yogurt
    Frozen vanilla or chocolate! Or you can peel bananas and freeze them and use them too.

    I mix blueberries, strawberries, raspberries and some frozen lowfat yogurt with vanilla protein powder mixed with skim milk (just make sure all your dairy is from cows not shot up with hormones or fed antibiotics and lots of grains.

    Another fav is a half of a frozen banana, strawberries, raspberries with chocolate protein powder and skim milk.

    You can use water instead of milk in both recipes. Once you try one, you will come up with all sorts of ways to "doctor" your own.

    I freeze small baggies of all berries while they are in season to get the best and least expensive. You just wash them, let them dry and then freeze on a rack. It's so easy to bag them up after that.

    PS. The above are smoothies made in a blender.

    Lisa P.
  • Nana b
    Nana b Member Posts: 3,030 Member
    #11
    scouty said:

    Hi April
    I juiced twice a day 14-16 oz each.

    Last spring I discovered something that I am now hooked on and you don't need a juicer, only a blender.

    I got the idea from an appetizer and I call it Liquid Sunshine and make about 12-14 oz. at a time. It is the most refreshing and invigorating drink I have ever had and a great shot of zest. AND there is nothing in it that should interfere with chemo!

    The amounts of each of the ingredients are totally up to you and your taste buds. I had booty cancer so I don't do spicy or hot (never really did) but think those that like it could add it.

    tomato quarters
    a chunk of cucumber
    1 slice of sweet onion
    1/2 clove of garlic
    slice of green bell pepper
    olive oil
    red wine vinegar
    sea salt and pepper to taste
    water if needed to help the ole blender do it's thing

    Put it all in a blender and puree! YUMMY and like juicing it gives your stomach and liver a break from having to digest food without compromising nutrients!

    Lisa P.

    Scouty
    I eat this as salsa, all chopped up. I will give a try juicing
  • Nana b
    Nana b Member Posts: 3,030 Member
    #12
    Nana2 said:

    Thanks everyone, and Kevin
    Thanks everyone, and Kevin we're always so glad when the posts help someone else! That's why we do it. Nana, I wondered how you puree those asparagus? Do you boil them first and then put them in the blender or do I need a food processor?
    I've copied the recipes and am excited about how good the juice tastes. Since we're trying to break the coffee habit, having something this wonderful to replace it with is terrific! He got his treatment today so we'll lay off for a few days.
    What can I make him using the protien powder that will be as tasty as his milkshakes only without ice cream? I want to avoid all the sugar.

    Thanks again everyone, your input helps so much!
    April

    Nana 2
    Yes simmer, then blend in a blender, add some salt and pepper. You can add cream but I eat it like that.

    Also I

    Saute onions and garlic in olive oil, add some chopped zucchini, saute, add a can of stewed tomatoes and you can top with a bit of your favorite cheese, or not. Yummy as a side to chicken or whatever.

    Green beans are also good this way. I try to get the tomatoes in.

    Chicken Soup with asparagus and brussel sprouts

    Fill half a pot with water (i think like 10 cups) add 4 diced chicken breast, add a package of mixed veggie, dice some 4 zucchini, asparagus, 4 carrots, green beans and add about half a bag of brussel sprouts to the pot. Simmer for 30 minutes until done, then add some chicken broth powder. Season to taste. Yummy!!
  • elizabethgd
    elizabethgd Member Posts: 145
    #13
    Nana b said:

    Nana 2
    Yes simmer, then blend in a blender, add some salt and pepper. You can add cream but I eat it like that.

    Also I

    Saute onions and garlic in olive oil, add some chopped zucchini, saute, add a can of stewed tomatoes and you can top with a bit of your favorite cheese, or not. Yummy as a side to chicken or whatever.

    Green beans are also good this way. I try to get the tomatoes in.

    Chicken Soup with asparagus and brussel sprouts

    Fill half a pot with water (i think like 10 cups) add 4 diced chicken breast, add a package of mixed veggie, dice some 4 zucchini, asparagus, 4 carrots, green beans and add about half a bag of brussel sprouts to the pot. Simmer for 30 minutes until done, then add some chicken broth powder. Season to taste. Yummy!!

    sounds great!
    Cant wait until I can digest those wonderful foods--Yummy
  • SisterSledge
    SisterSledge Member Posts: 332 Member
    #14
    Starting slowly
    Tis funny for me, but I'm feeling lately like I'm not a very good resource for health tips...seeing as how I have developed cancer, I must assume I've been doing something wrong. However, I can't see any harm in sharing something that happened to me in hopes you'll find benefit.

    Since diagnosis, I've been more open to trying fresh juicing though I am taking it slowly. Honestly, the taste has been a problem for me. We've tried many blends but even single fruit/veg juice tastes funky to me. What finally worked was adding a small amount of cherry juice...it is very expensive stuff but it makes even wheat grass taste yummy to me :)

    Lastly, I'll share a warning I heard that too much beet juice can cause problems to a person's system. It would be good to research more on this.

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