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Massive PSA increase!

Baby_Jay
Baby_Jay CSN Member Posts: 24 Member

Hi guys,

I'm new to this group. I have been on TRT for the past year, my baseline PSA was .51. I just had my follow up test and today my PSA is 12.93. That is a 2,431% increase in one year. From what I'm reading, that is highly suggestive of cancer! I have seen the results through patient portal and I haven't even talked with my doctor yet. Tech suggested repeat sequential tests. My heart dropped when I saw those results. Some things I read suggested this could be a highly agressive cancer. I guess I will just take it one day at a time.

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  • Baby_Jay
    Baby_Jay CSN Member Posts: 24 Member

    I forgot to mention I am 50 years old and my paternal grandfather had Prostate cancer, that's my only family history that I know of.

  • centralPA
    centralPA CSN Member Posts: 430 Member

    Hey, sorry you fund yourself here.

    I would definitely get another test done, just to confirm it wasn't some strange lab test error. After that, see what the doctor says. Lots of possible causes that aren't cancer, along with possibly being caused by cancer. Don't get ahead of the horse.

    If cancer is truly suspected (no obvious infection causing it) then expect him to request an MRI and then perhaps a biopsy. Make sure they come in that order. The MRI steers the biopsy.

    Like you said, one day at a time!

  • VascodaGama
    VascodaGama CSN Member Posts: 3,749 Member

    I agree with above central centralPA's comments. Get another PSA in one month and check if the laboratory reports in (ng/ml) units.

    Typically, aggressive prostatic cancerous cells produce low volume of PSA. Inflammation (BPH) are common in sudden increases and decreases of PSA.

    Be vigilant. Get informed by professionals.

    Best

    VG

  • VascodaGama
    VascodaGama CSN Member Posts: 3,749 Member
  • Clevelandguy
    Clevelandguy CSN Member Posts: 1,353 Member

    Hi,

    Why were you on TRT therapy? Is this your 1st PSA test since being on TRT? Like the other folks have suggested do more tests looking for trends up or down. Something sounds off……

    Dave 3+4

  • Baby_Jay
    Baby_Jay CSN Member Posts: 24 Member

    Thank you, right now I'm in panic mode. That just seems like an astronomical jump in one year.

    I'm on TRT due to severe fatigue and very low T. TRT has helped me so much to feel better. This is my second PSA test since I started.

  • Josephg
    Josephg CSN Member Posts: 538 Member

    I will just re-confirm what the other folks above have stated. Panic mode is expected, and we've all been through it. It is up to you to settle and control your panic mode to the extent possible, and stay in touch with your medical professionals to get the appropriate follow-up moving forward.

    Please keep us apprised with updates.

  • Baby_Jay
    Baby_Jay CSN Member Posts: 24 Member

    My Doc is referring me to an oncology Urologist, so I will go from there.

  • Old Salt
    Old Salt CSN Member Posts: 1,689 Member

    Good advice!

  • Baby_Jay
    Baby_Jay CSN Member Posts: 24 Member

    I've been doing some reading, and it is very concerning what I am learning. PSA > 10 is suspected cancer (more than 50% chance) rate of increase .75 per year is suspicious of cancer (mine was >10), >2.0 ng/mL/year is associated with a higher likelihood of aggressive disease (again mine is >10). I did a calculation, my PSA doubles every 3 months. If it doubles in less than 3 years they find that concerning. I'm not feeling very optimistic right now...

  • Old Salt
    Old Salt CSN Member Posts: 1,689 Member

    Yes, I think we all agree that your numbers are concerning. I do hope that your upcoming consultation will relieve you of these concerns. In the meantime, it's best to keep an optimistic outlook.

  • Baby_Jay
    Baby_Jay CSN Member Posts: 24 Member

    Had my repeat PSA today, 3.24. Last test must have been a lab error, however, it is still elevated. Should I be concerned? Because I still am.

  • Wheel
    Wheel CSN Member Posts: 256 Member

    keep in mind TRT can increase PSA levels and yours did not rise until your treatment. That being said you do want this investigated further. I would imagine frequent PSA tests. Consider asking your urologist about the ExoDx urine prostate test. This is non invasive and can help in determining if you need to go forward now with a biopsy or monitoring your PSA. It measures genomic markers of cancer cells if found in the urine as to the likelihood they are of a more aggressive nature.

  • Josephg
    Josephg CSN Member Posts: 538 Member

    I don't believe that you stated what type of doctor administered TRT to you.

    My recommendation to you after this latest test is to see a Urologist, if you have not already done so. That is the expert who should monitor your case going forward. You are probably OK at this time, IMO, but I believe that we should leave it to the expert to determine. The Urologist will determine if and/or when a biopsy is needed to make a definitive determination regarding whether or not prostate cancer (PCa) is present.

    Just remember that PSA values do give some information, but they are not linear, and they are not a determining factor regarding the aggressiveness of the PCa, if present. For example, my PSA was 5.2 when I finally visited a Urologist (my PCP fiddled and diddled for 5 years, before advising me to see a Urologist), and my PCa had already fully engulfed my prostate gland and escaped out of the prostate. My Gleason score was 4+3.

  • Baby_Jay
    Baby_Jay CSN Member Posts: 24 Member

    Thank you, yes I have an appointment with my urologist on Tuesday, he is the one who ordered the repeat PSA. My GP had me on TRT.

  • Clevelandguy
    Clevelandguy CSN Member Posts: 1,353 Member

    Hi,

    If your PSA went from .51 to 3.24 in about a year, yes that should raise some flags. Keep monitoring your PSA over the next few months/years looking for an up or down trend. As others have said with the TRT therapy your PSA would be elevated vs no therapy(.51). MRI, digital rectal exam, biopsies are the current tools doctors use.

    Dave 3+4

  • Baby_Jay
    Baby_Jay CSN Member Posts: 24 Member

    Urologist wants to repeat PSA in 6 months to check trend then do MRI/ biopsy if necessary. He said I could have MRI or Biopsy right now, but I want to wait it out.