What's Joe Tippen protocol

Johnadele28

I'm 54 living in Omaha NE, in good health. My routine blood test brought out a PSA 7.3. Ending up to be a prostate cancer Gleason 7. I'm yet to decide what to do.  My urologist is suggesting a surgical removal of prostate. I'm just doing my homework. Anyone can instruct me about "joe tippen protocol "? Thanks

Wheel

John,

I have no idea what the Joe Tippen protocol is but I want to share my recent prostatectomy surgery as they are all not the same. We all hear about having nerve sparing surgery but their are now even more advancements in the surgery. As I said all prostatectomy’s are not the same. It’s important if you are going for surgery you definitely inquire about the Surgeon’s expertise, how many he has done, his technique, what model Davinci he is working with and whether tissue is analyzed immediately in Pathology while they are operating on you. This also requires a major cancer center hospital or major hospital specializing in cancer surgeries.

I was dry with no leaking almost right away after the catheter was removed. The latest DaVinci Robotic technique is a single port entry. Only one very small vertical incision above your belly button not your typical three or four incisions. In a certain technique which not all Surgeon’s are trained in, the Surgeon is able to spare what’s called the puboprostatic ligament during robotic prostatectomy. In essence my Surgeon said this technique keeps the continence mechanism intact and it also helps maintain urethral length. A longer urethra allows for more control in the release of urine reducing the likelihood of incontinence and also the Puboprostatic ligament provides support to the urethra in keeping it in its position. He further does Retzius sparing of the tissue between the bladder and the prostate which further helps with continence. Another benefit of sparing the Puboprostatic ligament is the less likelihood the patient will see any reduction in their penile size that many patients report by either perception of it or the slight amount as its drawn in. He stated that this keeps the bladder anatomy more intact and in it’s natural place and resectioning the urethra to the bladder.

He explained that during Surgery I am certainly not upside down but he will operate through the Davinci robotic system as if I were upside down during the surgery. He said many surgeons are not familiar in the use of this approach and this is how he is able to spare the ligament. He said it was developed by a European Surgeon.

He also while I was under anesthesia sent my initial tissues immediately to Pathology to get an immediate staining for positive or negative margins. He was not expecting anything as the PET scan had indicated everything was in the capsule and from his experience did not see anything suspicious in the outlying tissue, however although the lymph nodes came back negative, there was positive margin, having just left the capsule. He then had to go back in and spent additional two hours trying to cut what he could to eliminate the positive margin. At that point I needed then to wait two weeks until I saw him and he said the final pathology report showed negative margins.

I am 71 years old and now 8 weeks post surgery. I was walking immediately. Started traveling again 4 weeks after surgery. My two main concerns the incontinence never materialized and the second ED is still under the recovery time. I am definitely seeing more girth in the morning and starting to have feeling’s that their is a wake up coming. My Surgeon said regardless even when nerve sparing surgery takes place their is trauma to the nerves that takes time to heal and regenerate. I still have Radiation Treatment in abeyance in the cancer returns. Side effects from Radiation Treatment may not be seen as quickly but they typically come and can cause possibly quality of life issues regarding the rectum and more incontinence than I wanted to possibly face. You can have salvage surgery after Radiation but it is more difficult and done by only certain Surgeons skilled in the practice. I had consultation’s with two Radiation Oncologist’s and two Surgical Oncologists so take your time.

 

Johnadele28

Thank you so much

Old Salt

Just enter

Joe Tippens protocol

in your favorite AI program. I used Copilot and concluded not to recommend this EVER for prostate cancer.

Steve1961

if the cancer is contained to the prostate at your age i would remove it dont mess around with radiation like i did ..it didnt work ended up having salvage surgery thank God I had a second chance if I could go back I would’ve took it out for sure. Look it up the gold standard for prostrate cancer is surgery. Find yourself a expert surgeon has done at least 3 to 4000 of them, get it done and don’t look back

Johnadele28

https://csn.cancer.org/discussion/comment/1718401#Comment_1718401

Thanks for your time.

Johnadele28

Thank you

Marlon

johnadele, a good reference book would be helpful in giving detailed information regarding the alternatives. I used the one by Dr Patrick Walsh Guide to Surviving Prostate Cancer.

What is discussed in there, matches what my both urologist and oncologist said. For younger patients (who have more time to live) surgery is usually the recommended option because it's removing the cancer from your body, and if there is a recurrence, its easier to follow up with radiation. For older patients or those with other health conditions, radiation is recommended because it is less intrusive and can extend your life long enough for you to die of other causes. There are major side effects with either option. But of course your specific situation may dictate what is "best". I am 67 and chose surgery because I wanted the cancer out. Both docs said I would have good outcome either way.

lighterwood67

I think, the Joe Tippen, you are referring to had small cell lung cancer. If I were you, I would stay focused on the task at hand. Prostate Cancer. Keep doing your homework. The decision you make will not be an easy one. If you are looking for positive reinforcement, there are many actual cases in this forum that have positive results. And if you are looking for, when things don't come out good, they are in this forum too. So best of luck on your journey.

jaynedough

That doesn't matter. Fenbendazole and ivermectin has cured many types. Joe had 3 months to live from one of the worst cancers there is, much worse than prostate cancer. He's cancer free today even after doing chemo and radiation which almost took him out and made his body and immune system very weak.hes alive and well yrs later from his protocol.

Clevelandguy

Hi,

From Google: “Meanwhile, under the guidance of a veterinarian, Tippens began self-administering 222 mg fenbendazole orally, along with vitamin E supplements, CBD oil, and bioavailable curcumin. After three months of self-administration, a PET scan revealed no detectable cancer cells in his body.”

Don’t think I would try this cocktail instead stick with proven treatments known to put your cancer in remission.

Dave 3+4

jaynedough

https://csn.cancer.org/discussion/comment/1721050#Comment_1721050

Tou mean the chemo and or radiation that kills most cancer patients?

YYoU wouldnt try it yet thousands of people are alive today from it.

Joe isnt the only person who got rid of his cancer from it, so has thousands of others and your immune system doesnt get ruined, nor do u lose your hair or puke everyday.

There's a reason big pharam doesn't want these cures to cancer made public, they would rather keep selling you their toxic chemicals.

Stanford University and many others have done peer reviews on Fenbendazole and are seeing great results with it being anti cancer.

The truth is going to be exposed soon.

centralPA

@jaynedough are you using the protocol? What is your condition and what are your results?

@Johnadele28 if you use it, post here frequently and let us know how it goes. I’ve never seen anyone here make reference to it in my three years.

Clevelandguy

https://csn.cancer.org/discussion/comment/1721051#Comment_1721051

Hi,

Study by the NIH on Fendbendazole:

“Conclusion:These studies provided no evidence that fenbendazole would have value in cancer therapy, but suggested that this general class of compounds merits further investigation”

You said:There's a reason big pharam doesn't want these cures to cancer made public, they would rather keep selling you their toxic chemicals. So you don’t think Fenbendazole is a toxic chemical?

From Google:”Safety concerns

• Fenbendazole can cause liver damage in humans. 
• Fenbendazole can damage organs like the stomach, nervous system, and lymph nodes if swallowed repeatedly or for a long time. 
• Fenbendazole can behave like a tumor promoter when taken after certain substances that cause cancer in animals. 

Not for me, you can take it or the cocktail if you like. Not saying there are not other drugs that need to be studied but being your own lab animal is not for me. Did not see any studies where “thousands of people are alive today from it”.

Dave 3+4

Old Salt

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