cisplatin and radiation

Hi Ladies, next week I will begin my 25 radiation treatments with concurrent weeks 1 and 4 Cisplatin. I'm feeling very anxious about the cisplatin side effects. Does the anitnausea med help minimize the nausea and vomiting. I did not feel nauseous at all with the Carbo/Taxol treatments I received. This scares me to think I could be living by the toilet from the Cisplatin. They said I will need to take the anti nausea med around the clock. Hoping this works and Im not left sick. Im reading hearing loss too. Is that likely? I already drive my son and husband nuts saying what ...ha ha.

Originally my gyno oncologist treatment plan was 1x weekly for each of the 5 weeks of radiation.At Center closer to my home where I receive treatment says there was a new clinical trial that the showed no different results for most that received Cisplatin Week 1 and Week 4 of radiation. they both say the  decision is mine. I know nothing about this so how can I possibly make the decision?!!? The radiolgist said if he was the tie breaker he'dgo with just the 2 Cisplatin treatments.

Also, my gyno oncologist said there is no need forme to have brachy therapy but the radioligist is suggesting at least 2 or 3 brachy treatments. says its standard. Ugh , again so who do I go with. The gyno oncologist has been doing this for many many years. radioligist is much younger less experienced perhaps due to his age but may be more up to date on his education. I dont know . alls i do know is that making the patient who knows nothing about any of this doesnt deem like the answer.

It's hard for me to trust any docs right now because I so trusted the midwife I saw for 15-20 years . When I told her I was spotting between periods, which was abnormal for me she said i was likely premenopausal and having hormone changes stating some get the periods more and othrs get it less some get it more and i was unfortunately the one who was going to get it more. I trusted her completely and now after being diagnosed with C , im learnng she shoulud have immeditatly sent me for an ultrasound. This perhaps could have been caughten earlier and i may not be in the boat I am now but it sounded logial and she had done my paps for so many years that I trusted she new what she was talking about.

I wish currently the docs werent putting in my hands .

also very worried about the cisplatin making me sick!

any thoughts or suggestions are so appreciated!

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  • Donna Faye
    Donna Faye Member Posts: 427 Member
    No problem

    When I had a recurrence, I had to have the pelvic rads and more brachy. I trusted my rad doc and he assured me the cisplatin worked to enhance the radiation. I had absolutely no problem with the cisplatin, just the normal problems that go with pelvic rads. Now 18 mos. out and doing well. Don't fear the cisplatin.

  • Feelingalone74
    Feelingalone74 Member Posts: 243

    No problem

    When I had a recurrence, I had to have the pelvic rads and more brachy. I trusted my rad doc and he assured me the cisplatin worked to enhance the radiation. I had absolutely no problem with the cisplatin, just the normal problems that go with pelvic rads. Now 18 mos. out and doing well. Don't fear the cisplatin.

    Donna Faye, thanks for your

    Donna Faye, thanks for your response! Im so gald that 18 months out your doing well!!!!

    My rad doc and oncologist did say too that the radiation and cisplatin worked together . I have heard that cisplatin can make you very nausious so Im getting nervous about treatment next week. They reassured me I would get antinausea premed before the cisplatin and that I would have to take antinausea round the clock . and that on day 3 i might start feeling sick ....though reminding me that everyones body tolerates treatments different. I didnt get sick with the carbo/taxol so I was hoping for the same but getting nervous. So Im so relieved that you said you didnt have any problems with the cisplatin!!!! I will hope for the same.

    How many times did you get the cisplatin during radiation. They changed mine from 5 times to 2 (given on week 1 and week 4) based on a study. My gyno oncologist suggested every week originally but he said was fine with what  the oncologist Im  seeing closer to me is suggesting.

    I'm hoping I dont make a mistake only getting it 2x's

    Keep feeling well Donna Faye!!!! :-)

  • Feelingalone74
    Feelingalone74 Member Posts: 243
    Did you take a probiotic when

    Did you take a probiotic when receiving pelvic rad? I asked he said it wasnnt nessecary. Also, I thought someone originally told me I would have to avoid fruit and veggies that are antioxidants because they would work against the radiation that oxidizies you but he said that was just a myth. Thoughts on that?

  • MAbound
    MAbound Member Posts: 1,168 Member
    edited September 2019 #5
    My Space

    I can't remember your pathology results and your "My Space" is blank. (Hint, hint) My radiation oncologist and gyn oncologist didn't agree with each other, either. My 69 year old gyn oncologist absolutely did not want me to have brachy during frontline. He only wanted me to have 5 weeks of pelvic radiation. I ended up having the pelvic radiation plus what was called a vaginal boost which is basically brachy delivered externally without using the radioactive tampon.

    I really felt caught in the middle between them and didn't appreciate it because it took a lot of help and information from this group to get myself to agree to even have the pelvic radiation. Doctors are just all over the place in philosophies and practices and it just sucks that they look at us to make these life and death decisions.

    Here's what you really need to understand and consider when you make your decision:

    • Your pathology (hence why I went looking for yours). My cancer originated near the neck of the uterus (the thinnest part) and grew both up into the fundus and down towards the cervix. It penetrated the myometrium 70%. I had lymphovascular invasion with a positive pelvic lymph node on each side. Those particulars put me at having a good chance for recurrence around the vaginal cuff which is where this cancer tends to recur first. (Lungs are second and that's why para-aortic lymph nodes usually get tested, too.) Radiation, particularly brachy or a vaginal boost has been shown in studies to up your odds of remaining NED when you have that kind of pathology vs. not having that as additional treatment. 
    • In my circumstances, it also helped to know what kind of equipment was going to be used to deliver the radiation. There are some really sophisticated options out there that can do a lot to avoid surrounding organs such as the bladder, bowel, and hips to minimize adverse side effects. I had mine delivered using 3D-CRT and haven't suffered from some of the ill effects that others have had with internal radiation (brachy). 
    • Your gyn oncologist is not necessarily wrong in advising against the brachy. Brachy is a local treatment (effective against only what it's aimed at) and can only be used once to an area. He's not the only Dr. out there who prefers to reserve radiation for if and when it might be needed. Go ahead and give weight to his recommendation, but do it in light of what your pathology particulars are.

    I get what you mean about the trust issue. My cancer got to the stage and grade it did due to my doctor being let's-wait-and-see about my late menopause (I was 59 at diagnosis). It is a thing, so I went along with it, but that was a missed opportunity for the possibility of the C word being considered. My periods were regular and my pap smears were negative, so I didn't have it on my radar to question about it. I didn't know about any of the risk factors for this cancer because the focus seems to always be on breast or cervical cancer. It turns out that I had a number of the risk factors and it really angered me that my doctor didn't know better than me to add that all up and consider sending me a specialist sooner. It's all coulda, woulda, shoulda now, but it still upsets me that my cancer wasn't caught earlier and that this similarly happens to others. It's probably going to take the availability of a screening test to change that. Until then, it just seems like there isn't the interest in educating anyone to have it on their radar to try to catch it quick or even do what's possible to prevent it. I could just rant about this forever!

  • Donna Faye
    Donna Faye Member Posts: 427 Member

    Donna Faye, thanks for your

    Donna Faye, thanks for your response! Im so gald that 18 months out your doing well!!!!

    My rad doc and oncologist did say too that the radiation and cisplatin worked together . I have heard that cisplatin can make you very nausious so Im getting nervous about treatment next week. They reassured me I would get antinausea premed before the cisplatin and that I would have to take antinausea round the clock . and that on day 3 i might start feeling sick ....though reminding me that everyones body tolerates treatments different. I didnt get sick with the carbo/taxol so I was hoping for the same but getting nervous. So Im so relieved that you said you didnt have any problems with the cisplatin!!!! I will hope for the same.

    How many times did you get the cisplatin during radiation. They changed mine from 5 times to 2 (given on week 1 and week 4) based on a study. My gyno oncologist suggested every week originally but he said was fine with what  the oncologist Im  seeing closer to me is suggesting.

    I'm hoping I dont make a mistake only getting it 2x's

    Keep feeling well Donna Faye!!!! :-)

    My experience

    I did not take any medicine for nausea but did have to live on Immodium for weeks and still have to take every now and then.  I had 5 total cisplatin, once a week, during the pelvic rads. I did not take a probiotic but wish I had. It might have helped. My docs were very on top of things for me and often one would call and we would have a conference call so I would get both their ideas at the same time. I think you will be OK. Thinking of you.

  • Donna Faye
    Donna Faye Member Posts: 427 Member

    Did you take a probiotic when

    Did you take a probiotic when receiving pelvic rad? I asked he said it wasnnt nessecary. Also, I thought someone originally told me I would have to avoid fruit and veggies that are antioxidants because they would work against the radiation that oxidizies you but he said that was just a myth. Thoughts on that?

    f and v

    I had to stay on a BRAT diet during the time due to my bowel upset. I still have to be careful about what I eat as tummy can get upset in a hurry.

  • MAbound
    MAbound Member Posts: 1,168 Member

    Did you take a probiotic when

    Did you take a probiotic when receiving pelvic rad? I asked he said it wasnnt nessecary. Also, I thought someone originally told me I would have to avoid fruit and veggies that are antioxidants because they would work against the radiation that oxidizies you but he said that was just a myth. Thoughts on that?

    Antioxidants

    It's antioxidant supplements that you need to be careful about taking during chemo and radiation rather than food sources for antioxidants. Supplements provide much higher concentrations and doses than you get from eating food and can be counterproductive to treatment in medicinal strength doses. 

    https://www.oncolink.org/cancer-treatment/radiation/support/supplement-use-during-radiation-therapy

  • zsazsa1
    zsazsa1 Member Posts: 568 Member
    I  completed 5 weeks of whole

    I  completed 5 weeks of whole pelvic IMRT this past May.  I didn't take a probiotic because no one told me about it.  Two weeks into the radiation, I first developed mucusy stools (that was the breakdown of the mucus lining of the colon and intestines), and then diarrhea every five minutes.  Rad Onc asked me how many times a day I was having diarrhea - the answer was too numerous to count.  I almost quit the radiation.  But then someone on this website told me to add a probiotic.  It helped within HOURS.  I went from every 5 minutes all day and night, to several bouts of emptying out after having eaten, but it was possible to continue the radiation.  I took Culturelle on someone's recommendation.  I could never have finished radiation without it.

    Studies on mice showed that if the probiotic was begun about a week BEFORE the radiation, and continued throughout the radiation, the mice had less bowel mucosa damage.  There aren't any human studies that I know of, but if I were you, I'd start the Culturelle immediately.  Someone else on this forum was advised to start the probiotic before radiation, and swears she had NO diarrhea!

    As for the brachytherapy, I was told over and over by the rad onc that he could do the vagina with external beam.  I still think I should have had brachy, too, but he preferred not to.

    I don't know what to tell you about the cisplatin.  I pushed for the most aggressive treatment I could get, because I have a very aggressive tumor (UPSC/clear cell) that had gotten out of the uterus, as isolated tumor cells seen in a sentinel node.  If I had a recurrence, I wanted to be able to feel that I had done everything possible to stay here for my family.  But I had only carbo/taxol - and that was bad enough.  I can say that ondansetron was a miracle drug for me.

    I know how you feel about the delay in diagnosis.  A lot of us here have similar stories.  I was told my symptoms were nothing, didn't warrant the transvaginal ultrasound I already had scheduled for that day, and diagnosis was delayed for a year.  And it was an experienced MD who told me that!

    However you decide, I wish you an easy course with it.

  • Feelingalone74
    Feelingalone74 Member Posts: 243
    MAbound said:

    Antioxidants

    It's antioxidant supplements that you need to be careful about taking during chemo and radiation rather than food sources for antioxidants. Supplements provide much higher concentrations and doses than you get from eating food and can be counterproductive to treatment in medicinal strength doses. 

    https://www.oncolink.org/cancer-treatment/radiation/support/supplement-use-during-radiation-therapy

    Thanks so much MaBound for

    Thanks so much MaBound for that clarification! Only thing I take is Iron Tab and B Vomplex so presumably they should be good.

  • Feelingalone74
    Feelingalone74 Member Posts: 243
    zsazsa1 said:

    I  completed 5 weeks of whole

    I  completed 5 weeks of whole pelvic IMRT this past May.  I didn't take a probiotic because no one told me about it.  Two weeks into the radiation, I first developed mucusy stools (that was the breakdown of the mucus lining of the colon and intestines), and then diarrhea every five minutes.  Rad Onc asked me how many times a day I was having diarrhea - the answer was too numerous to count.  I almost quit the radiation.  But then someone on this website told me to add a probiotic.  It helped within HOURS.  I went from every 5 minutes all day and night, to several bouts of emptying out after having eaten, but it was possible to continue the radiation.  I took Culturelle on someone's recommendation.  I could never have finished radiation without it.

    Studies on mice showed that if the probiotic was begun about a week BEFORE the radiation, and continued throughout the radiation, the mice had less bowel mucosa damage.  There aren't any human studies that I know of, but if I were you, I'd start the Culturelle immediately.  Someone else on this forum was advised to start the probiotic before radiation, and swears she had NO diarrhea!

    As for the brachytherapy, I was told over and over by the rad onc that he could do the vagina with external beam.  I still think I should have had brachy, too, but he preferred not to.

    I don't know what to tell you about the cisplatin.  I pushed for the most aggressive treatment I could get, because I have a very aggressive tumor (UPSC/clear cell) that had gotten out of the uterus, as isolated tumor cells seen in a sentinel node.  If I had a recurrence, I wanted to be able to feel that I had done everything possible to stay here for my family.  But I had only carbo/taxol - and that was bad enough.  I can say that ondansetron was a miracle drug for me.

    I know how you feel about the delay in diagnosis.  A lot of us here have similar stories.  I was told my symptoms were nothing, didn't warrant the transvaginal ultrasound I already had scheduled for that day, and diagnosis was delayed for a year.  And it was an experienced MD who told me that!

    However you decide, I wish you an easy course with it.

    zsazsa1 Thanks for your

    zsazsa1 Thanks for your response and sharingyou story. Im so sorry that you went through all of that with the radiation! I cant imagine how that must have been for  you.I will get some Culturelle asap. I asked the radioligist if I should take one and he said it wasnt neccessary. Why they dont listen to patients whom have side effects and what helped them is beyond me. SO glad I have all you ladies for advice!

    Im so undecided about the brachy that my radioligist is pushing for. My gyno oncolgist said it wasnt neccasary because based on mypathology report the top of my cervix and uterus werent involved so he deems brachy not needed. Radiolgist says standard to do extrenal pelivc radiation and brachy? WHo to believe....Id say gyno oncoligist he saw it all 1st hand but I dont want tomake a wong decisioin. 

    I just dont want to have regrets but feel the my gyno oncologist wouldnt tell me to skip it if he felt deemed necessary.

    The delayed diagnosis sure sucks! i wish i knew now what I know now. I had a normal papsmear 1 month before adnormal spottingn between periods. Trusted my midwife of over 15-20 years and never gvae a thought I shoud be tested for something. She didnt recommend further testing I took her word that I was just going to be the unforutante one to get my period more during premenapause. A test in the 1st month of that might have saved me for the BIG C progressing. UGH!!!!!

    I just want the same as you ....the best care choice an good health so I can continue to be here for my family!

    Thank you for wishing me an easy course ! I wish you good health!!!

  • zsazsa1
    zsazsa1 Member Posts: 568 Member
    Probiotic isn't being

    Probiotic isn't being recommended because I don't think that anyone has done human studies with it.  But I don't believe it's dangerous or will impede the efficacy of radiation.  I too had my tumor up in the fundus (top) of the uterus, with no lower involvement, so I was sort of okay with the rads onc refusing to do brachy combined with external.  Because I had isolated cells in a sentinel node, I figured that it was more important to irradiate the pelvic nodes.

  • Feelingalone74
    Feelingalone74 Member Posts: 243
    MAbound said:

    My Space

    I can't remember your pathology results and your "My Space" is blank. (Hint, hint) My radiation oncologist and gyn oncologist didn't agree with each other, either. My 69 year old gyn oncologist absolutely did not want me to have brachy during frontline. He only wanted me to have 5 weeks of pelvic radiation. I ended up having the pelvic radiation plus what was called a vaginal boost which is basically brachy delivered externally without using the radioactive tampon.

    I really felt caught in the middle between them and didn't appreciate it because it took a lot of help and information from this group to get myself to agree to even have the pelvic radiation. Doctors are just all over the place in philosophies and practices and it just sucks that they look at us to make these life and death decisions.

    Here's what you really need to understand and consider when you make your decision:

    • Your pathology (hence why I went looking for yours). My cancer originated near the neck of the uterus (the thinnest part) and grew both up into the fundus and down towards the cervix. It penetrated the myometrium 70%. I had lymphovascular invasion with a positive pelvic lymph node on each side. Those particulars put me at having a good chance for recurrence around the vaginal cuff which is where this cancer tends to recur first. (Lungs are second and that's why para-aortic lymph nodes usually get tested, too.) Radiation, particularly brachy or a vaginal boost has been shown in studies to up your odds of remaining NED when you have that kind of pathology vs. not having that as additional treatment. 
    • In my circumstances, it also helped to know what kind of equipment was going to be used to deliver the radiation. There are some really sophisticated options out there that can do a lot to avoid surrounding organs such as the bladder, bowel, and hips to minimize adverse side effects. I had mine delivered using 3D-CRT and haven't suffered from some of the ill effects that others have had with internal radiation (brachy). 
    • Your gyn oncologist is not necessarily wrong in advising against the brachy. Brachy is a local treatment (effective against only what it's aimed at) and can only be used once to an area. He's not the only Dr. out there who prefers to reserve radiation for if and when it might be needed. Go ahead and give weight to his recommendation, but do it in light of what your pathology particulars are.

    I get what you mean about the trust issue. My cancer got to the stage and grade it did due to my doctor being let's-wait-and-see about my late menopause (I was 59 at diagnosis). It is a thing, so I went along with it, but that was a missed opportunity for the possibility of the C word being considered. My periods were regular and my pap smears were negative, so I didn't have it on my radar to question about it. I didn't know about any of the risk factors for this cancer because the focus seems to always be on breast or cervical cancer. It turns out that I had a number of the risk factors and it really angered me that my doctor didn't know better than me to add that all up and consider sending me a specialist sooner. It's all coulda, woulda, shoulda now, but it still upsets me that my cancer wasn't caught earlier and that this similarly happens to others. It's probably going to take the availability of a screening test to change that. Until then, it just seems like there isn't the interest in educating anyone to have it on their radar to try to catch it quick or even do what's possible to prevent it. I could just rant about this forever!

    MAbound, it certainly is

    MAbound, it certainly is difficult when those on health care team aren't in agreeance! 

    And yes ive been saying forever that i need to fill out my space page...hint taken :-)

    In short, my gyno oncoligist says that brachy therapy isnt necesscary because he thinks im getting coverage of the vaginal cuff with exteranl radiation. he says its usually recommended if the cervix or top of the uterus was involved and mine was not.  

    my diagnosis is at age 44 Endometrial Cancer Stage lll FIGO Grade 2 ( went from stage ll to stage lll because it had spread to my ovaries).  I had a full robotic hysterectomy...went well without any complications,thankfully)! then Cat Scan of pelvic and abdomen...came back negative, negative testing for lynch syndrome. they couldnt understand why someone as young as me with slimmer body type and not have been through menopause and because of that said I didnt fit the bill for endometrial cancer. it was concluded that I had the genetics for endometrial cancer. All of this was so scary and shocking to me because just before the spotting bleeding between periods i had just gone a few weeks prior came back normal and when i called about spottingbleeding she said I was most likely premenopausal and that some get their periods less some get it more and unfortunately I was going to be the one who gets it more. I saw her for so long that who was I not to trust what she said. hindsight now should have asked to be referred to a gynocoligist as she is a midwife. not knowing the medical field and seeing her for so long i trusted she knew what she was talking about. ugh....so mad at myslef for not questioning her!

    So after the pelvic abdomen cat scan came back negative I was hopeful that i wouldnt need treatment. the explained id something was smaller than the the vegetable pee that the cat scan wouldnt see it an told me i would need to have preventative treatment. i was schocked that preventative treatment was the full blown cancer treatment. it gives me hope that they say preventative treatment and that I HAD cancer and as far as they know its all been surgically removed. My CA 125 went from in July 104 to post 2 chemo treatments to 7. that gives me reassurance because they said that means my body is responding to treatment. my gyno oncolgist however doesnt take stock in it and says he doesnt do one to after final treatment....way to burst my happy bubble!

    next week i begin radiation. still conflicted of what is right about the cisplatin. gyno oncolgist whose older and says that has always been his standard treatment or younger oncologist who states clincal trial shoes know difference in getting it weeks 1 and 4 of radiation vs. once a week. Radioligist whomis youngersays he sides with oncologist . they are in the same Cancer Center.

    I cant make that choice as a patient. their suppose to be the experts! UGH!

    I hoping that you are well MAbound ! Thank you for listening and advicing as well as encouraging!

    I so apppreciate you ladies!

  • MAbound
    MAbound Member Posts: 1,168 Member

    Thanks so much MaBound for

    Thanks so much MaBound for that clarification! Only thing I take is Iron Tab and B Vomplex so presumably they should be good.

    Iron?

    Why are you taking an iron tab? How long have you been taking it? I ask because with going into surgical menopause, if you were anemic due to your periods, that should no longer be a concern for you and you really shouldn't take an iron supplement unless there is a really good reason and you are advised to take it by your doctor.

    The best way our bodies get rid of excess iron is through blood loss. After menopause you are more susceptible to iron toxicity if you take an iron supplement. Iron toxicity can actually cause cancer, particularly colon cancer, so it is much safer to get what you need from food. A doctor might prescribe it for a set period of time if your levels test low, but this is a supplement you don't want to keep taking indefinitely without getting your levels checked regularly.

  • Feelingalone74
    Feelingalone74 Member Posts: 243
    MAbound said:

    Iron?

    Why are you taking an iron tab? How long have you been taking it? I ask because with going into surgical menopause, if you were anemic due to your periods, that should no longer be a concern for you and you really shouldn't take an iron supplement unless there is a really good reason and you are advised to take it by your doctor.

    The best way our bodies get rid of excess iron is through blood loss. After menopause you are more susceptible to iron toxicity if you take an iron supplement. Iron toxicity can actually cause cancer, particularly colon cancer, so it is much safer to get what you need from food. A doctor might prescribe it for a set period of time if your levels test low, but this is a supplement you don't want to keep taking indefinitely without getting your levels checked regularly.

    Oh MAbound you are so

    Oh MAbound you are so knowledgeable. I was told to take it when I was bleeding prior to the hysterectomy. I asked them to check my iron level  a few weeks ago when they were doing routine blood work. She told me the level was good and that I wasnt at the risk of anemia. She beversiad to stop taking it so I assumed I should continue as I was concerned about not getting enough Iron through food.

    Jeez, I have learned way  more on here than any doc off. I have an appt tomorrow that Im hoping to not to have to cancel , and I will ask then and tell them my concern.

  • Feelingalone74
    Feelingalone74 Member Posts: 243

    Oh MAbound you are so

    Oh MAbound you are so knowledgeable. I was told to take it when I was bleeding prior to the hysterectomy. I asked them to check my iron level  a few weeks ago when they were doing routine blood work. She told me the level was good and that I wasnt at the risk of anemia. She beversiad to stop taking it so I assumed I should continue as I was concerned about not getting enough Iron through food.

    Jeez, I have learned way  more on here than any doc off. I have an appt tomorrow that Im hoping to not to have to cancel , and I will ask then and tell them my concern.

    Just researched it you are

    Just researched it you are absolutley right! Why they havent told me to stop taking it is beyond me!

  • MAbound
    MAbound Member Posts: 1,168 Member

    Oh MAbound you are so

    Oh MAbound you are so knowledgeable. I was told to take it when I was bleeding prior to the hysterectomy. I asked them to check my iron level  a few weeks ago when they were doing routine blood work. She told me the level was good and that I wasnt at the risk of anemia. She beversiad to stop taking it so I assumed I should continue as I was concerned about not getting enough Iron through food.

    Jeez, I have learned way  more on here than any doc off. I have an appt tomorrow that Im hoping to not to have to cancel , and I will ask then and tell them my concern.

    Self-preservation

    It's important and vital to one's own self-preservation to never be a passive patient. There is no such thing as a doctor who knows everything about everything and has the time to educate us about it all, so the onus is on us to fill in the gaps for what pertains to us. It seems like the more you learn, the more there is to learn. It never stops, but it's worth the time and effort you put into it. 

    I just can't understand ingesting anything without thoroughly understanding the pros and cons of doing so, so discussions about supplements tend to get me up on my soap box. So often the benefits get tauted without discussion about the potential negatives and times when they would be contra-indicated. I know I can be irritating when I go "but....", but ....Innocent.

     

  • TeddyandBears_Mom
    TeddyandBears_Mom Member Posts: 1,814 Member
    edited September 2019 #18
    MAbound said:

    Self-preservation

    It's important and vital to one's own self-preservation to never be a passive patient. There is no such thing as a doctor who knows everything about everything and has the time to educate us about it all, so the onus is on us to fill in the gaps for what pertains to us. It seems like the more you learn, the more there is to learn. It never stops, but it's worth the time and effort you put into it. 

    I just can't understand ingesting anything without thoroughly understanding the pros and cons of doing so, so discussions about supplements tend to get me up on my soap box. So often the benefits get tauted without discussion about the potential negatives and times when they would be contra-indicated. I know I can be irritating when I go "but....", but ....Innocent.

     

    But!

    Uhm.... I'll take your "but...." anytime! The fact that you care enough to share speaks volumes. If someone doesn't like a post, they can just scroll on by it.  

    Thanks for your candor and sharing.

    Love and Hugs,

    Cindi

  • MAbound
    MAbound Member Posts: 1,168 Member

    But!

    Uhm.... I'll take your "but...." anytime! The fact that you care enough to share speaks volumes. If someone doesn't like a post, they can just scroll on by it.  

    Thanks for your candor and sharing.

    Love and Hugs,

    Cindi

    . LOL! Don't give me too much

    Wink. LOL! Don't give me too much encouragement! I like the soap box too much!

  • Feelingalone74
    Feelingalone74 Member Posts: 243
    zsazsa1 said:

    Probiotic isn't being

    Probiotic isn't being recommended because I don't think that anyone has done human studies with it.  But I don't believe it's dangerous or will impede the efficacy of radiation.  I too had my tumor up in the fundus (top) of the uterus, with no lower involvement, so I was sort of okay with the rads onc refusing to do brachy combined with external.  Because I had isolated cells in a sentinel node, I figured that it was more important to irradiate the pelvic nodes.

    zsazsa1 Ok, I will double

    zsazsa1 Ok, I will double check before starting to take it certainly if it helps stop or eleviate the diahreah its worth it!

    I didnt have any involvement with the cervix or uterus so that is why my gyno oncologist said for me it wasnt neccesary for me to have the brachy threapy. hes a pretty straight forward doctor so i do believe he'd speak his mind about the cisplatin differences and tell me yes most certainly u need brachy if he deemed it necessary.

  • Feelingalone74
    Feelingalone74 Member Posts: 243
    MAbound said:

    Self-preservation

    It's important and vital to one's own self-preservation to never be a passive patient. There is no such thing as a doctor who knows everything about everything and has the time to educate us about it all, so the onus is on us to fill in the gaps for what pertains to us. It seems like the more you learn, the more there is to learn. It never stops, but it's worth the time and effort you put into it. 

    I just can't understand ingesting anything without thoroughly understanding the pros and cons of doing so, so discussions about supplements tend to get me up on my soap box. So often the benefits get tauted without discussion about the potential negatives and times when they would be contra-indicated. I know I can be irritating when I go "but....", but ....Innocent.

     

    MAbound , I always appreciate

    MAbound , I always appreciate your knowledge and your input! I hve learned so much from you ladies 1st hand experience and its helping me get through this journey tremendously!

    I am learning that they cant or dont have the time to answer all my questions so coming to this board is so helpful to me. 

    Learning I need to be my own advocate and I know its my right to question anything Im not comfortable with in regards to decisions my helath team are making in regards to my treatment. Often I know they get annoyed with all my questions but I also know if I dont ask and question how will I know .