Tumeric

evolo58

I have heard much about it here. Apparently, it can inibit certain nasty cells, including cancer. I've been cleared to take it, but apparently, you can simply use the spice with with food as well.

How much would you need if you go with food?

I know some combine it with black pepper ... reportedly, it's more effective. That will be a harder sell with me ... I really can't stand the taste of black pepper. But for now, I'm looking into tumeric. I don't mind the taste of that, for some reason.

EDIT ... Foiund this link: https://csn.cancer.org/node/234097

Maybe I will go with a lower-dose tablet to start. Honestly ... cannot ... stand ... black ... pepper!

SF73

Turmeric, Black Cumin Seed, and Black Pepper

I am not taking these as high dose supplements during chemo since I am afraid of them counteracting chemo. May take them after chemo is over. During chemo, my mother came up with a little mixture. She puts 2 tablespoon of yogurt and mixes it up with one teaspoon of turmeric, one teaspoon of grounded black cumin seeds, some black pepper and olive oil. She used to add flaxseed meal but then we read about it being a good source of pythoestrogen. I know there is much debate about whether or not plant based estrogen is useful or harmful for hormone related cancers but we stopped putting flaxseed meal just to be on the safe side. This mixture is probably so low in dose that it does not make much difference but I like it and it makes me feel good to consume it. BTW how could you not like black pepper? Do you ground them fresh?  

evolo58

I just don't like the taste

I just don't like the taste of it, ground or fresh. Just weird, I guess. I'll eat a little bit, but if it's prominent, I'll eat just enough to be polite if someone made a dish for me. 

I already take black seed oil, so I'm good there. Not fond of the taste. but I pretty much swallow it quickly. It doesn't take long, and I drink water right after. I know you can also dilute it in the water, and I might go for capsules at a later date instead. I know some people prefer that.  Don't mind olive oil ... I use lots of that. It's just that black pepper!

SF73

NoTimeForCancer said:

I don't take any additional

I don't take any additional supplements of tumeric, pepper, etc...but wanted to add SF, if you are trying to avoid pythoestrogen, SOY is also on the list.  Soy, as in the highly processed, soy protien isolates.  I think it shows that the more we process the food that it really isn't good for us.  The dietician I went to years ago while I was undergoing treatment talked about this.  It was funny, right after I met with her I came across an article in a magazine about soy as I was waiting for one of my radiation treatments.  

Years ago when they said 'soy was good because Asian women were not getting cancer', people went OVERBOARD and starting eating everything made with soy.  The problem was, the 'soy' put in things was being highly processed.  The Asians eat it in its PURE form:  tofu, edamame, etc...NOT processed.  As I said, another reason to stay away from highly processed food.  

Personally, I avoid soy.  That is just me.  Everyone has to do what is right for them.  My two cents.

Soy

The oncologist dietitician I saw a few weeks ago also mentioned to consume only unprocessed tofu or edamame and none of the processed soy products. My husband is a strict vegetarian, I was one for 5 years until I started breasfeeding my daughter and found out that she was allergic to soy and dairy products. I fell off the vagon then (11 years ago) started eating meat, but since my husband is the better cook in the family I still consumed a lot of processed tofu products at home until the cancer diagnosis. Since the diagnosis, I only allow myself an occasional Korean soon doo boo soups with Kimchi (made of soft tofu) Just in case. 

NoTimeForCancer

SF73 said:

Turmeric, Black Cumin Seed, and Black Pepper

I am not taking these as high dose supplements during chemo since I am afraid of them counteracting chemo. May take them after chemo is over. During chemo, my mother came up with a little mixture. She puts 2 tablespoon of yogurt and mixes it up with one teaspoon of turmeric, one teaspoon of grounded black cumin seeds, some black pepper and olive oil. She used to add flaxseed meal but then we read about it being a good source of pythoestrogen. I know there is much debate about whether or not plant based estrogen is useful or harmful for hormone related cancers but we stopped putting flaxseed meal just to be on the safe side. This mixture is probably so low in dose that it does not make much difference but I like it and it makes me feel good to consume it. BTW how could you not like black pepper? Do you ground them fresh?  

I don't take any additional

I don't take any additional supplements of tumeric, pepper, etc...but wanted to add SF, if you are trying to avoid pythoestrogen, SOY is also on the list.  Soy, as in the highly processed, soy protien isolates.  I think it shows that the more we process the food that it really isn't good for us.  The dietician I went to years ago while I was undergoing treatment talked about this.  It was funny, right after I met with her I came across an article in a magazine about soy as I was waiting for one of my radiation treatments.  

Years ago when they said 'soy was good because Asian women were not getting cancer', people went OVERBOARD and starting eating everything made with soy.  The problem was, the 'soy' put in things was being highly processed.  The Asians eat it in its PURE form:  tofu, edamame, etc...NOT processed.  As I said, another reason to stay away from highly processed food.  

Personally, I avoid soy.  That is just me.  Everyone has to do what is right for them.  My two cents.

Fayard

Hola,

Hola,

I was womdering if anyone can recommend a a good turmeric/black pepper pills brand.

Gracias!

derMaus

Tumeric/curcumin supplements

Tumeric/curcumin supplements have substantial differences in absorption rates, rendering it an entirely different animal from the tumeric used in cooking. I found this out after I'd started taking it, and had to ditch a couple of generic bottles that lacked the correct properties. Below is a link to the ConsumerLabs article that explains the differences and what you need to look for. I tried to cut and paste the entire article, but because CL's information is proprietary it won't let me do that. Supposedly this link will allow you to see a limited version of the article; I apologize in advance if it doesn't work.

https://www.consumerlab.com/reviews/turmeric-curcumin-supplements-spice-review/turmeric/#bioavailability

ConsumerLab also indicates that taking curcumin is conterindicated for people using Everolimus, as it can reduce it's effects. Doctor's Best High Absorption, GNC Tumeric Plus, Healthy Directions Tumeric Curcumin Complete, Life Extension Super Biocurcumin and Pure Encapsulations are some of the brands that meet CL standards; there are others. Hope this helps. B

Fayard

derMaus said:

Tumeric/curcumin supplements

Tumeric/curcumin supplements have substantial differences in absorption rates, rendering it an entirely different animal from the tumeric used in cooking. I found this out after I'd started taking it, and had to ditch a couple of generic bottles that lacked the correct properties. Below is a link to the ConsumerLabs article that explains the differences and what you need to look for. I tried to cut and paste the entire article, but because CL's information is proprietary it won't let me do that. Supposedly this link will allow you to see a limited version of the article; I apologize in advance if it doesn't work.

https://www.consumerlab.com/reviews/turmeric-curcumin-supplements-spice-review/turmeric/#bioavailability

ConsumerLab also indicates that taking curcumin is conterindicated for people using Everolimus, as it can reduce it's effects. Doctor's Best High Absorption, GNC Tumeric Plus, Healthy Directions Tumeric Curcumin Complete, Life Extension Super Biocurcumin and Pure Encapsulations are some of the brands that meet CL standards; there are others. Hope this helps. B

Thank you very much!

Thank you very much!