The 700 Club (IV vitamin C)

tanstaafl

My wife has had 700 infusions of IV vitamin C, a rather high cu.mulative number. The past 100 infusions have been with 30-65 grams of vitamin C (30,000-65,000mg), 3 to 7 days apart. Since her infusions are peripheral rather than port based, the nurse's insertion skill becomes more  important as she climbs the accumulated experience curve and ages on chemo.   

Previous discussions are here: 

IV vitamin C, #500;   

IV vit C #600, a road less traveled   

need infor about high-dose IV vitamin C   

Including IV vitamin C along with her daily 5FU tx has given her many advantages over conventional medicine's oncology treatments including increased wellbeing and functionality, much less illness, doing without heavy chemo components, many fewer and much less side effects, and lower costs.   

Although I absolutely would not suggest solo IV vitamin C for colon cancer treatment except perhaps hospice, likewise I would not do chemo without the C infusions in common recurrent, fatal mCRC forms such as she has.

This year we've had a pretty interesting demonstration of dose and the power of vitamin C added to immunochemo.  My wife's IV vitamin C dose had dropped lower, to about 30 grams per infusion for well over a year.  This year, I found that a little used alternative biomarker for colon cancer, AFP, more often used for liver cancer, that I still checked rarely, had risen over 30 fold from her original baseline. E.g. analogously, if you started with a post-surgical baseline CEA of 0.5 or 1 and if it rose to a CEA of 15 or 30, most patients and doctors would be rightly concerned. Two possible interpretations are that her residual colon cancer (micro?)mets are trying to evolve through another pathway, or possibly the rise of a second primary cancer, like liver cancer.   

In any case, we increased her infusion back to 50 grams  and then lately, 60 grams of IV vitamin C again.  At 50 grams her biomarker went down 45+% and stalled at 19x-20x baseline from a peak at 34.5x and 36x baseline. A month ago, we increased IV C to 60 grams (60,000 mg) and now AFP has decreased ~75% to 9x baseline, now within the normal range.  

Again, I don't want anyone to think a little "vitamin C cures colon cancer". Vitamin C works in combinations under specific conditions.   My wife takes a lot of other things that are active against her colon cancer, and to a lesser extent, liver cancer.  I do look askance at "medical authorities" who make the various negative comments about vitamin C, showing off their total ignorance and/or their biases, both personal and commercial.

 

lp1964

Dear Friend,

I have been following your posts ever since I got on this site. Many things I don't understand, but from your description I'm very impressed with your results. Most doctors are not open minded enough to try different treatment options or even handle the conventional treatment with a little flexibility. Sometimes adjusting the dose or the schedule a little makes a big difference for the patient. I understand that because of liability they cannot differ from the usual ways or regimen. 

After all we have to be our on advocate by being informed and exchange ideas. We cant just hand our lives over to someone. In this country -unlike the rest of the world- we are locky to have some say in our treatment. We have to take responsibility and take advantage of that. 

Thank you for pushing the envelope and all the best to both of you. 

Laz

Trubrit

Impressive!

That is allot of Vit C (and allot of needles). I am so glad that your wife has responded well to her treatments, and I hope that the added doses will continute to keep her 'wannabe active' Cancer cells in check. It is always scary to see those biomarkers rising and knowing that something is causing them to go up. I pray that she will continue with good results for many a year. s

Sue - Trubrit

NEDbound

vit c

I have been taking a lipospheric oral vitamin C in high doses.  I am very interested in IV vit C.  Where is she getting these infusions? 

Summer

tanstaafl

NEDbound said:

vit c

I have been taking a lipospheric oral vitamin C in high doses.  I am very interested in IV vit C.  Where is she getting these infusions? 

Summer

mostly

Mostly at home, overseas.

tanstaafl

lp1964 said:

Dear Friend,

I have been following your posts ever since I got on this site. Many things I don't understand, but from your description I'm very impressed with your results. Most doctors are not open minded enough to try different treatment options or even handle the conventional treatment with a little flexibility. Sometimes adjusting the dose or the schedule a little makes a big difference for the patient. I understand that because of liability they cannot differ from the usual ways or regimen. 

After all we have to be our on advocate by being informed and exchange ideas. We cant just hand our lives over to someone. In this country -unlike the rest of the world- we are locky to have some say in our treatment. We have to take responsibility and take advantage of that. 

Thank you for pushing the envelope and all the best to both of you. 

Laz

Thanks Laz.  Both in the US

Thanks Laz.  Both in the US and overseas, those few doctors willing to go beyond std of care have enabled us to do more.  Also I have to admit, I've had to do a lot more than I ever dreamed 6 years ago.  It has been important to leverage freedoms and strengths of different systems together. Some things we do overseas are virtually impossible to do/get in the US; likewise somethings in the US are better or more available. 

tanstaafl

Trubrit said:

Impressive!

That is allot of Vit C (and allot of needles). I am so glad that your wife has responded well to her treatments, and I hope that the added doses will continute to keep her 'wannabe active' Cancer cells in check. It is always scary to see those biomarkers rising and knowing that something is causing them to go up. I pray that she will continue with good results for many a year. s

Sue - Trubrit

Thanks Sue.Yes each time

Thanks Sue.

Yes each time the biomarkers rise, it is like a shoe drops. We take a deep breath about what to do and how this one will turn out;  fights waged over months to a year or more.  It is very satisfying when the markers break and go down, even some biomarkers back to baseline.   

moore769

My husband killed his stage IV prostrate cancer. His life expectancy for one year was only 30%. The cancer had metastasized in the bone, ribs & hip and was pushing up against colon. 14 months later, no signs of cancer.

Here is what he did:

He took Lupron to stop the cancer growth. It reduces testosterone, which feeds prostrate cancer. We then did the following three things:

1. changed his diet, no sugar, no red meat and no processed foods. Tried add many more vegetables.
2. Juiced all fresh ingrediantes, orange juice (fresh squeezed), pineapple, carrots, cucmber (basically any fresh vegie and then, 1 pound of ginger per gallon. We did two gallons a week. He drank most of it, I drank some.
3. Noni Juice to boost immune system
4. Pomegranate juice to boost the immune system
5. 75 grams Vitamin C IV once a week.

14 MONTHS LATER

No signs of cancer. We are off the all medication and continuing holistic.

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Our strategy was to stop the growth and then try to build the immune system, so it could fight the cancer. It worked for now, but we will continue to monitor.

PS he did not have radiation; he did not cut out his prostrate. He can have sex.

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moore769

ALL NEW CANCER THERAPIES INVOLVE IMMUNOLOGY. MOST ARE IN TESTING PHASE.

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