Benefits of Soy?

joannstar

I'm TNBC survivor of almost 5 years (cancerversary date is 8/19/10). I have recently become Vegan to try and finally lose the weight I've gained over the last 5 years and get my cholestrerol and sugar numbers back to where they should be since it seems that I'll be sticking around for a while (wasn't too sure of that during all the treatment time).

Eventhough I am not estrogen positive, 5 years ago my onc suggested that I eat only limited amounts soy products but that I didn't have to avoid them completely. I just found this article in the CURE magazine and I am wondering what others have been advised about soy.

http://www.curetoday.com/publications/cure/2015/spring2015/The-Skinny-on-Soy?utm_source=Informz&utm_medium=Cure+Today&utm_campaign=CURExtra%5Femail%5F6%2D24%2D15

Thanks for your thoughts.

Hugs,

JoAnn

Clementine_P

Soy

Hi JoAnn,

Last year Melissa Mouton, a nutritionist from Livestrong, was taking questions and I asked that same question.  I am copying her answer below.  It was very helpful to me and I am now happily eating as much soy as I want now! 

Best,
Clementine

 Hi! Great question. I get this one alot! No, there is not definitive evidence that eating soy is dangerous for those with estrogen receptor positive (or negative) cancers. In fact, the evidence points more towards a protective role of soy with regards to breast cancer (other estrogen sensitive cancer such as ovarian have not been studied as much with regards to soy). Overall, the research is not yet clear, but much of the controversy surrounding soy intake has stemmed from a couple of old in-vitro (test-tube) studies that demonstrated estrogenic activity when isolated soy protein (a very processed product added to some food products like energy bars) was added to breast tissue cells in the laboratory. Based on these limited studies, it became common for physicians to recommend that their breast cancer patients avoid soy intake of any kind. More recent studies have been conducted taking a look at actual breast cancer patients and have suggested that soy intake may play more of a protective role in breast cancer survival. In addition to those studies, it is worth noting that population based studies indicate an inverse relationship with soy intake and breast cancer risk. For example, populations that have higher whole soy food intake tend to have lower risk of breast (and prostate) cancer. Some researchers have proposed the mechanism for this may be the binding of soy isoflavones (considered “weak” estrogens) to estrogen receptors in breast tissue, which blocks the binding of human estrogen to the receptors and thereby preventing the adverse stimulation of these receptors. Until more research is available, several major cancer treatment centers recommend breast cancer patients avoid extremely high intake of soy products and if desired choose a moderate amount of whole soy foods (such as edamame, tempeh, tofu) versus processed soy products. Moderate intake is considered 2 to 3 servings per day. References: Wu, A. H., Yu, M. C., Tseng, C. C., & Pike, M. C. (2008). Epidemiology of soy exposures and breast cancer risk. Journal of Breast Cancer, 98, 9-14. Shu, X. O., Zheng, Y., Cai, H., Gu, K., Chen, Z., Zheng, W., & Lu, W. (2009). Soy food intake and breast cancer survival. The Journal of the American Medial Association, 302(22), 2437-2443. Kang, X., Zhang, Q., Wang, S., Huang, X., & Jin, S. (2010). Effect of soy isoflavones on breast cancer recurrence and death for patients receiving adjuvant endocrine therapy. Canadian Medical Association Journal, 182(17), 1857-1862. Magee, P. J., & Rowland, I. (2012). Soy products in the management of breast cancer. Current Opinion in Clinical Nutrition and Metabolic Care, 15(6), 586-591. Nechuta, S. J., Caan, B. J., Chen, W. Y., Lu, W., Chen, Z., Kwan, M. L., Flatt, S. W., Zheng, Y., Zheng, W., Pierece, J. P., & Shu, X. O. (2012). Soy food intake after diagnosis of breast cancer and survival: an in-depth analysis of combined evidence from cohort studies of US and Chinese women. Nutrition and Cancer, 64(5), 652-665. Kang, H. B., Zhang, Y. F., Yang, J. D., & Lu, K. L. (2012). Study on soy isoflavone consumption and risk of breast cancer and survival. Asian Pacific Journal of Cancer Prevention, 13(3), 995-998. Zhang, Y. F., Kang, H. B., Li, B. L., Zhang, R. M. (2012). Positive effects of soy isoflavone food on survival of breast cancer patients in China. Asian Pacific Journal of Cancer Prevention, 13(2), 479-482. MD Anderson Cancer Center. (2013). A healthier diet for cancer survivors. Retrieved from http://www2.mdanderson.org/cancerwise/2013/08/healthier-diet-for-cancer-survivors.html Dana-Farber Cancer Institute. (2011). Is eating soy safe for breast cancer patients and survivors? Retrieved from http://www.dana-farber.org/Newsroom/News-Releases/Is-eating-soy-safe-for-breast-cancer-patients-and-survivors-.aspx Seattle Cancer Care Alliance. (2013). Women’s Wellness Clinic Newsletter. Safe to enjoy soy. Retrieved from http://www.seattlecca.org/client/WWC_Newsletter_Summer-2013-FINAL-web.pdf 

disneyfan2008

my adult daughter and baby

my adult daughter and baby granddaughter only drink/ use almond milk and loveit.

kjana

Clementine_P said:

Soy

Hi JoAnn,

Last year Melissa Mouton, a nutritionist from Livestrong, was taking questions and I asked that same question.  I am copying her answer below.  It was very helpful to me and I am now happily eating as much soy as I want now! 

Best,
Clementine

 Hi! Great question. I get this one alot! No, there is not definitive evidence that eating soy is dangerous for those with estrogen receptor positive (or negative) cancers. In fact, the evidence points more towards a protective role of soy with regards to breast cancer (other estrogen sensitive cancer such as ovarian have not been studied as much with regards to soy). Overall, the research is not yet clear, but much of the controversy surrounding soy intake has stemmed from a couple of old in-vitro (test-tube) studies that demonstrated estrogenic activity when isolated soy protein (a very processed product added to some food products like energy bars) was added to breast tissue cells in the laboratory. Based on these limited studies, it became common for physicians to recommend that their breast cancer patients avoid soy intake of any kind. More recent studies have been conducted taking a look at actual breast cancer patients and have suggested that soy intake may play more of a protective role in breast cancer survival. In addition to those studies, it is worth noting that population based studies indicate an inverse relationship with soy intake and breast cancer risk. For example, populations that have higher whole soy food intake tend to have lower risk of breast (and prostate) cancer. Some researchers have proposed the mechanism for this may be the binding of soy isoflavones (considered “weak” estrogens) to estrogen receptors in breast tissue, which blocks the binding of human estrogen to the receptors and thereby preventing the adverse stimulation of these receptors. Until more research is available, several major cancer treatment centers recommend breast cancer patients avoid extremely high intake of soy products and if desired choose a moderate amount of whole soy foods (such as edamame, tempeh, tofu) versus processed soy products. Moderate intake is considered 2 to 3 servings per day. References: Wu, A. H., Yu, M. C., Tseng, C. C., & Pike, M. C. (2008). Epidemiology of soy exposures and breast cancer risk. Journal of Breast Cancer, 98, 9-14. Shu, X. O., Zheng, Y., Cai, H., Gu, K., Chen, Z., Zheng, W., & Lu, W. (2009). Soy food intake and breast cancer survival. The Journal of the American Medial Association, 302(22), 2437-2443. Kang, X., Zhang, Q., Wang, S., Huang, X., & Jin, S. (2010). Effect of soy isoflavones on breast cancer recurrence and death for patients receiving adjuvant endocrine therapy. Canadian Medical Association Journal, 182(17), 1857-1862. Magee, P. J., & Rowland, I. (2012). Soy products in the management of breast cancer. Current Opinion in Clinical Nutrition and Metabolic Care, 15(6), 586-591. Nechuta, S. J., Caan, B. J., Chen, W. Y., Lu, W., Chen, Z., Kwan, M. L., Flatt, S. W., Zheng, Y., Zheng, W., Pierece, J. P., & Shu, X. O. (2012). Soy food intake after diagnosis of breast cancer and survival: an in-depth analysis of combined evidence from cohort studies of US and Chinese women. Nutrition and Cancer, 64(5), 652-665. Kang, H. B., Zhang, Y. F., Yang, J. D., & Lu, K. L. (2012). Study on soy isoflavone consumption and risk of breast cancer and survival. Asian Pacific Journal of Cancer Prevention, 13(3), 995-998. Zhang, Y. F., Kang, H. B., Li, B. L., Zhang, R. M. (2012). Positive effects of soy isoflavone food on survival of breast cancer patients in China. Asian Pacific Journal of Cancer Prevention, 13(2), 479-482. MD Anderson Cancer Center. (2013). A healthier diet for cancer survivors. Retrieved from http://www2.mdanderson.org/cancerwise/2013/08/healthier-diet-for-cancer-survivors.html Dana-Farber Cancer Institute. (2011). Is eating soy safe for breast cancer patients and survivors? Retrieved from http://www.dana-farber.org/Newsroom/News-Releases/Is-eating-soy-safe-for-breast-cancer-patients-and-survivors-.aspx Seattle Cancer Care Alliance. (2013). Women’s Wellness Clinic Newsletter. Safe to enjoy soy. Retrieved from http://www.seattlecca.org/client/WWC_Newsletter_Summer-2013-FINAL-web.pdf 

very good info, thanks!
 
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very good info, thanks!

 

my oncologist is nto against soy, she just say not to eat too much cured food