Question on cutting out sugar / red meat?

renw

johnsnowden said:

lively discussion

well i appreciate the feedback and i never meant to offend. i am a stage 3b rectal cancer patient currently in the middle of folfox chemo. i was very fortunate to have had a complete pathologic response (tumor disappeared completely, clean rectal biopsy, no surgery needed) thanks to the radiation treatments and i truly feel that a meat free, high alkaline and low glycemic carb diet helped this process. but what do i know? my doctors have said not enough research has been done in this area. early on i asked a GI doctor what causes cancer, he said, well, genetics, then diet. i would gladly provide all my medical records to help in any study that may be taking place just to help others with horrible disease that i hate so much. i do not take this lightly, and i am very worried about recurrence. and i deeply care for all fellow survivors.

i stand by the notion that the disproportionately high rate of cancer in industrial cultures is due to the higher consumption of processed foods and meats, polluted air and water, excess consumption of alcohol and tobacco. gluttony. but yes there are also other causes, like immune system anomolies, but those are probably exascerbated by those outside factors as well. someday we might know for sure. i don't.

and to the family that ate red meat for generations and turned out 'ok', how could that example reflect an extremely broad range of people and lifestyles? yes, they probably had awesome genetics and immune systems, but that doesn't mean it's automatically ok for everyone to eat red meat. i'm not going to provide links and all that, but there are many mainstream medical studies (not alternative sites etc.) that see a correlation between red meat and colorectal cancer.

do correlations mean anything?

i am sorry if i sound offensive or demeaning to anybody.

 

 

Also there is a great deal of

Also there is a great deal of difference between the grass fed beef of yesteryear, compared to todays feed lot fattened cattle.

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renw said:

Also there is a great deal of

Also there is a great deal of difference between the grass fed beef of yesteryear, compared to todays feed lot fattened cattle.

I heartly agree

Yes, renw you have that right.  We have so little control and information about any of the food stuffs we consume...be it grown or processed.

Flour of yesteryear still contained all the nutrients.  Fruits and veggies were grown in soil not compromised by chemicals either leeching into the soil or coming down in  acid rain.

The environment of the world has changed considerably and not for the better.

Even when we try to buy organic...we can not be assured that the soil, air and water are without pollutants...even when no chemical fertilizers or pest repellants are used.

We all just have to do the best we can, and hope that is enough.

Marie who loves kitties