Treatment and Pets....

fishmanpa
fishmanpa Member Posts: 1,227 Member

When Marcia and I went to the chemo class, one of the things brought up was pets. With a cat, they said we could interact, play, pet, cuddle etc., no problem. They also said not to allow them to sleep in the bed with us. Socrates sleeps with Marcia and occasionally will sleep at my feet. 

As I sit here typing with the boy all curled up on my legs, purring and extremely happy we're here for the weekend, I'm feeling guilty having to close the bedroom door and keep him out when we sleep (well.. YOU stand there and look at that pitiful face when I'm closing the door!).

I've looked a bit around on the web and haven't found anything that substanciates keeping them off the bed. If we can play, cuddle etc with them, then why kick them out at night?  I know the obvious issues with litter and such.... but but but but :(  Marcia is changing that and doing the raw meat feedings (he eats a raw chicken diet with an open supply of high protein kitten food).  Anyone have some info?

"T"

 

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  • jcortney
    jcortney Member Posts: 503
    No Idea

    Can't imagine why you could be exposed all day but not when sleeping.  My dog Sophie sleeps at the foot of the bed and did so every night of my treatment.  During the day when I felt like Krap she would sleep in my lap, made me feel better.  Sounds like you are making it though ok, sorry to hear you had thrush.  Horrible condition.  I had it only twice but it just might have been the worst two weeks during treatment.

    Looking forward to hearing what difference sleeping makes?

    Joe

     

  • phrannie51
    phrannie51 Member Posts: 4,716
    For all the hours my Doc's talked to me about

    treatment, not one mentioned anything about my pets.....so I haven't a clue what they're worried about.  It is weird that you can do everything with them you've always done, just not sleep with them....

    p

  • VivianLee5689
    VivianLee5689 Member Posts: 546

    For all the hours my Doc's talked to me about

    treatment, not one mentioned anything about my pets.....so I haven't a clue what they're worried about.  It is weird that you can do everything with them you've always done, just not sleep with them....

    p

    We were never told that

    We weren't told that, but we were told to try to keep them from scratching David.  It was very important he not bleed with low platelets and low immunity to infection.

  • CivilMatt
    CivilMatt Member Posts: 4,724 Member
    Socrates rules

    T,

     

    I asked Justine (the wonder cat) and she said there is fear of transfer of bacteria or parasites when cleaning a litter box.  So, unless you wear gloves and wash real well you should not clean any litter box.

     

    Now (not) sleeping with you, how silly is that.

     

    Matt

  • fishmanpa
    fishmanpa Member Posts: 1,227 Member
  • DCH21
    DCH21 Member Posts: 33
  • Duggie88
    Duggie88 Member Posts: 760 Member
    Hi "T"

    I was glad to see your post but have nothing to add as to the health factor in having pets around. I don't believe they even asked me anything about having pets otherwise my Playboy Bunny of a wife may have had to leave not to mention my penthouse pet. Socrates knows something is going on and I see it as a mutual agreed upon unspoken pact where you both need each other while observing certain precautions to get the three of you through this. I had a golden retriever we had to put down a few days after I completed radiation because it was his time. It broke my heart but Kate said he hung on to make sure I made it through the radiation. All part of the therapy my friend.

     

    Keep moving forward...............Enjoy the rest of your weekend

          Jeff

  • MarineE5
    MarineE5 Member Posts: 1,035 Member
    Do whats normal

    T,

    We all want to get back to our normal routines as fast as we can. Doing what is normal now, helps us remember where we want to be in the near future.

    My wife and I both had cats during our health issues, they have passed since then, but there is nothing like the "Cat/ Pet Factor" to calm us down. They get so content, it has a calming affect on us and for a brief time we are relaxed and rest, which is what we really need.

    Do what makes YOU happy....

    My Best to Both of You and Everyone Here

  • Ingrid K
    Ingrid K Member Posts: 813
    Catherapy

    I say since there are so many things you may have to do without for a while during treatment and recovery....let the cat do what he wants.  You will benefit from his calmness....they say pets are good for keeping blood pressure down and many other things so I say let Socrates sleep wherever he wants....and it will most likely be on your lap during the day and on your feet at night.

    Our golden was (and still is) my best bud during my recovery.

     

  • Jan Trinks
    Jan Trinks Member Posts: 477
    Nothing mentioned to us about pets

    We were never told anything about our pets either.  Now, ours are dogs and not cats and I know they say there are certain things to watch out with cats like litter box, and such.  But they are such a big part of your life and a comfort to you during treatment.  And they do know something is going on and will want to be with you.  One of our shelties and our dachshund always slept with us and Charlie did not suffer any ill effects.  I guess it just depends on the docs.  Charlie did have the 5FU bag and Sammy (the dachshund) who sleeps under the covers at the end of the bed did like to cuddle up with Charlie next to that unit but fortunately he never chewed at it.  But I would hate to think you couldn't be around them which apparently they didn't tell you that and I believe they do have some healing power!  Just be careful and good luck.

     

    Jan (Basketcase)

  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Probably Shouldn't

    Ask me that is, LOL....

    Amigos

    I might be a tad bias...

    My labs were/are best cargivers ever.... Me above with chemo hair and swollen out from chemo..., ummm OK chemo no hair..

    The only thing I ever heard concerning pets, and especially cats. Concerned 5FU, apparently it has an odor they like... They tend to chew the tube from the pump, and it can be toxic...

    LOL, as if I didn't already know the stuff stinks like a cat urine spray pole, or at least made me smell like some medicne bag when I soaks in the tub during using it... per my wife..., but I thought of cat urine... Aand the stuff will come close to killin you....

    JG

  • Roar
    Roar Member Posts: 269 Member
    Be careful

    Three dogs and a parrot here- I was super careful not to get bit by the bird as he likes to nip every once in a while just to keep you honest and all my dogs love to fetch and rough house- so I had to be careful not to get cut or scratched or anything that would leave me exposed for an infection - the leader of the pack will sneak into our bed once in a while but not every night - and yes , my dogs were and are a big part of my recovery even though the bird talks a good game so just watch the cats claws

  • rachel12yrsuv
    rachel12yrsuv Member Posts: 435
    T,
    When I was treated I had 2

    T,

    When I was treated I had 2 cats, since deceased, but I was told under no circumstances could I be in contact with them. One I had for a few years at the time and the other was a small kitten and it killed me, for the same reason, I just wanted to cuddle with them to make me feel better! Instead I took them to my sisters until my treatments were done, I did however go and play with them once a week, it killed me. So it seems that they have loosened that worry by allowing you to play with them just not sleep. The cat sleeps at your feet, I can't see what harm that would do. But of course I am not a doc. But I support you and Marcias decision.


    God Bless buddy,


    Rachel
  • Tim6003
    Tim6003 Member Posts: 1,514 Member

    T,
    When I was treated I had 2

    T,

    When I was treated I had 2 cats, since deceased, but I was told under no circumstances could I be in contact with them. One I had for a few years at the time and the other was a small kitten and it killed me, for the same reason, I just wanted to cuddle with them to make me feel better! Instead I took them to my sisters until my treatments were done, I did however go and play with them once a week, it killed me. So it seems that they have loosened that worry by allowing you to play with them just not sleep. The cat sleeps at your feet, I can't see what harm that would do. But of course I am not a doc. But I support you and Marcias decision.


    God Bless buddy,


    Rachel

    Well durn T ...

    You will have to make that call....but I have five kids ages 1 1/2 years to 13 years during my treatments over 15 months ago ....and no one told me to be sure and keep the kids away, and with four of those five being BOYS, you can only imagine all the germs in my house :)  :):)

    Oh, btw....I also had and still have my dog and my cat (of 14 years) and "Saturn" the cat certainly slept in the bed on my wife's side every night! 

    Best,

    Tim

  • donfoo
    donfoo Member Posts: 1,773 Member
    Pets

    Pets and flush twice are on the same list to me. Conservative cautions that for all practical purposes are quite low probability sources of infections and side effects. Enjoy yuour pet and conserve water. lol

  • fishmanpa
    fishmanpa Member Posts: 1,227 Member
    donfoo said:

    Pets

    Pets and flush twice are on the same list to me. Conservative cautions that for all practical purposes are quite low probability sources of infections and side effects. Enjoy yuour pet and conserve water. lol

    Decisions made....

    Hey Foo and Tim,

    We decided that with less than a week and half of treatment left and one weekend home with the boy before we're home, things will be business as usual. If the boy wants to sleep with Mommy (as he always does), they he will do so.  He was with us last weekend and I'm fine. I already dealt with flush and they've put me on a more universal anti-fungal (systmatic) medicine that is doing the trick. 

    It's definitely beneficial in many aspects and besides, the cat is the only thing giving me exercise these days! ~lol~  He plays ball like a dog,... throw a tin foil ball and he chases it down, bats it all around, plays a little fetch etc. I get a major hoot playig with him!


    "T"

  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    fishmanpa said:

    Decisions made....

    Hey Foo and Tim,

    We decided that with less than a week and half of treatment left and one weekend home with the boy before we're home, things will be business as usual. If the boy wants to sleep with Mommy (as he always does), they he will do so.  He was with us last weekend and I'm fine. I already dealt with flush and they've put me on a more universal anti-fungal (systmatic) medicine that is doing the trick. 

    It's definitely beneficial in many aspects and besides, the cat is the only thing giving me exercise these days! ~lol~  He plays ball like a dog,... throw a tin foil ball and he chases it down, bats it all around, plays a little fetch etc. I get a major hoot playig with him!


    "T"

    Attitude and Interaction

    I would like to say that the benifits enjoyed from our pets, outweigh the risk....

    Hell, you are probably more at risk going out in the general public, and certainly at the health facility you end up sitting at while waiting your turn to see the MD's.

    JG

  • debbiejeanne
    debbiejeanne Member Posts: 3,102 Member
    Skiffin16 said:

    Attitude and Interaction

    I would like to say that the benifits enjoyed from our pets, outweigh the risk....

    Hell, you are probably more at risk going out in the general public, and certainly at the health facility you end up sitting at while waiting your turn to see the MD's.

    JG

    i agree with john the public

    i agree with john the public is a bigger risk.  i say enjoy the cat and be glad u have him.

    God bless,

    debbiejeanne

  • George_Baltimore
    George_Baltimore Member Posts: 303

    i agree with john the public

    i agree with john the public is a bigger risk.  i say enjoy the cat and be glad u have him.

    God bless,

    debbiejeanne

    T, you silly goose

    didn't you know that cats steal your breath at night when you sleep? (tongue in cheek)

  • MICH4EL
    MICH4EL Member Posts: 73
    Pets

    I've heard that people with pets are happier and live longer.  I've also heard from people  on this discussion Board that positive mental attitude is the most important factor in cancer treatment.  Germs are everywhere....I think the postiive benefits of a pet offset any minimal risk of an infection from them as opposed to from any of the millions of other sources of infection. 

    The issue of breath stealing is another questions entirely.  Has anyone found any randomized, scientific, peer-reviewed articles on mortality and morbidity rates caused by cats stealing the breaths of their owners?  I think this is something we should investigate further and perhaps create a discussion board for survivors of cat-breath-stealing.  Until this is fully researched, I will continue to be a dog person rather than a cat person.

    M