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Minnesotagirl

Helen321 said:

I tired Desitin, it worked

I tired Desitin, it worked for a few days and then it got bad again.  Maybe I should try again. I'm very familiar with the screaming.  It's good that you healed which means this is not permanent.  It feels so permanent at the moment.  It's not healing at all!  Gets better and then right back to worse.  Not constipated at all and the stinging is still out of control.

Forgot to mention this

Yes the stinging is awful...I also would be in the bathtub many times a day (more like a sitz bath than real bath). I did sit on Ice packs too but the Oncologist said I could permanently cause tissue problems doing that so I stopped.  Keep bathing and smearing desitin on it. One nurse told me to defecate in a tub of warm/cool water so it wasn't so painful. I tried it because I was desperate...it did help. Hang in there...it will get better~

"Minnesotagirl

LivinginNH

pete43lost_at_sea said:

you poor dear

some serious butt pain comes with illness, its added for free. its in the very fine print but somehow my onc and surgeon forgot to mention one of the highlights of my cancer so far.

lots of great suggestions for you here from others. i hope they help.

i tried getting a towel, biting on it, then screaming loudly into it, seemed to work as good as all the pills, creams and potions. this kind nurse suggested the towel trick, it helped me,  hopefully you dont need it.

during this painful journey, i took a real life journey to my friends farm, it was late one starry night, the cows were mooing close by, soon they were running scared as i was using the outside loo and the towel technique.

i have been back to that farm, the cows stay away from me even two years later.

the moral, time heals all wounds except for cows. my pain is gone now, i hope yours is soon. it will get better for you i hope.

hugs,

pete

 

 

Moo!!!    Thanks Pete, I

Moo!!!    Thanks Pete, I was sitting here crying from missing my dear Rick, but I laughed out loud at your post.  It reminded me of a time when Rick and I were driving by a dairy farm and noticed about 100 cows slowly walking up to the back pasture.  Rick pointed towards them and said; "Look it's the great cow migration of 2010!!      It hit my funny bone so it still makes me smile whenever I drive by the field.  So thank you, no more tears for tonight, I'm off to sleep now with that memory.  

And Helen dear, I wish I had the magic bullet for you, but it sounds like you're going to need a pain relieving cream, but what, I don't know.  Sorry I can't help....       I hope that you can find something that might help.  Hmmm, how about a dabbing of "magic mouthwash"?   I don't know if it would sting, but at least it numbs!  (I found that it helps if you spray your throat when you get a cold, so maybe it could help the buns too?).  I'd try a very small area first of course before spraying.  You'd think the medical community could come up with something useful for that kind of pain.

Feel better soon Helen, I wish I  could help you.  

Cyn

pete43lost_at_sea

LivinginNH said:

Moo!!!    Thanks Pete, I

Moo!!!    Thanks Pete, I was sitting here crying from missing my dear Rick, but I laughed out loud at your post.  It reminded me of a time when Rick and I were driving by a dairy farm and noticed about 100 cows slowly walking up to the back pasture.  Rick pointed towards them and said; "Look it's the great cow migration of 2010!!      It hit my funny bone so it still makes me smile whenever I drive by the field.  So thank you, no more tears for tonight, I'm off to sleep now with that memory.  

And Helen dear, I wish I had the magic bullet for you, but it sounds like you're going to need a pain relieving cream, but what, I don't know.  Sorry I can't help....       I hope that you can find something that might help.  Hmmm, how about a dabbing of "magic mouthwash"?   I don't know if it would sting, but at least it numbs!  (I found that it helps if you spray your throat when you get a cold, so maybe it could help the buns too?).  I'd try a very small area first of course before spraying.  You'd think the medical community could come up with something useful for that kind of pain.

Feel better soon Helen, I wish I  could help you.  

Cyn

thanks cyn, a smile, a laugh and a tear

dear cyn,

that's why we are here, my dear. to be loved and remembered fondly.

i know the rhyming is corny, but thats me.

caring like you have for have for helen, on an emotional level is more important than the answer. it shows the power of our little community.

to be vulnerable and then cared for is very healing. so you don't have the cure for helen,but your support offers so much more.

its the example of our ultimate strength of a community, where we may not have the actual answer to help someone in need here, but the simple act of replying and caring

has mended many a broken soul here. 

its a strange mix of emotions combined in a simple post, ricks memory, your tears, helen's pain and even my fears.

its another joyous day, the first for 2013. I wish us all the best.

hugs,

Pete

LivinginNH

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Helen321

John23 said:

Ouch. I only hurts when I laugh sitting down?

They have a technique where they put "rubber band" type devices on
the bulging veins to shrink them into oblivion; fairly painless, the wife says!

She said that I had it backwards (?), that the gastro doc fixes the
ones inside, and the surgeon fixes the ones outside. She had hers
done by the gastro doc, right at the doc's office. The ones outside
remain and one of these days she'll have a surgeon fix them, but
the major problem was fixed by the Gastro doc.

I don't have 'em; according to the wife, I just represent them.
(John23: aka "Mr. Hemorroid")

Sit in the punch bowl ! It's the holidays, everyone does it!

My best wishes,

John

lol Thanks John, I think I'll

lol Thanks John, I think I'll drink some of the punch before I sit in it so I'll stop the pain at both ends.  I'm going to ask the doctor about removing the rroids during the surgery since I'm going to be under anyway, kill two birds (that's so not nice, killing birds) with one rubber pellet.  I refuse to throw rocks at birds.  The pain is less this week but it's still pretty bad.  I was hoping by this week it would be gone.  I can see this is going to be a chronic issue.  With my surgery coming up, I hope it doesn't get worse!

Helen321

John23 said:

Ouch. I only hurts when I laugh sitting down?

They have a technique where they put "rubber band" type devices on
the bulging veins to shrink them into oblivion; fairly painless, the wife says!

She said that I had it backwards (?), that the gastro doc fixes the
ones inside, and the surgeon fixes the ones outside. She had hers
done by the gastro doc, right at the doc's office. The ones outside
remain and one of these days she'll have a surgeon fix them, but
the major problem was fixed by the Gastro doc.

I don't have 'em; according to the wife, I just represent them.
(John23: aka "Mr. Hemorroid")

Sit in the punch bowl ! It's the holidays, everyone does it!

My best wishes,

John

I swear I only hit the button

I swear I only hit the button once!

Helen321

Minnesotagirl said:

Forgot to mention this

Yes the stinging is awful...I also would be in the bathtub many times a day (more like a sitz bath than real bath). I did sit on Ice packs too but the Oncologist said I could permanently cause tissue problems doing that so I stopped.  Keep bathing and smearing desitin on it. One nurse told me to defecate in a tub of warm/cool water so it wasn't so painful. I tried it because I was desperate...it did help. Hang in there...it will get better~

"Minnesotagirl

So far it's only slightly

So far it's only slightly better and when I called the doctor this week they said give it another few weeks and it might just heal itself.  On a scale of one to ten, the pain has gone from a 22 to an 11.  I hope to be on the scale soon.

Helen321

pete43lost_at_sea said:

dear helen

well many of us have been through something close to what your experiencing. i am glad you using the washcloth and not your finger. else you'd need surgery for the finger.

its just a **** spot your in, somehow i got through my ordeal, somehow you will get through yours. ask your doctors, nurses, us etc etc, try and get help where ever you can, even praying.

maybe try a nice towel, that you can bury your face in, thats soft and comfortable, that blacks out all light to your eyes. My pain was during winter so I had a really nice scarf i used to use when out and about. I wonder what other people in the public toilets must have thought, now looking back. at the time i did not worry at all.

smile helen, your alive and alas pain is a part of our illness, i wiah it were not so. but your experience is so similar to mine and others.

if its some consolation, the burning **** and radiation phase was one of the most challenging. time dimms our painful memories, thank god.

I used to look myself in the eye, after the pain had passed and think god i am tough. my kids found the whole situation most entertaining in a morbid kind of way.

i used to use the kids potty and do the old yoga squat. given the pain associated with each passing, ensuring a full evacuation was a high priority. the other secret, was really holding the craps till the last moment. again the strategy was to ensure as full a motion as possible, so building up the pressure made sense to me, also defering the inevitable pain was nice. also when the pain comes i think i used a few implicit meditation techniques like being calm about the pain and then observing it while screaming. it makes sense to me, it may make sense to you.

look up the posts on meditation and pain relief, it helped me to some extent.

it got better for me soon, not soon enough. i hope it does for you as well. in the meantime try any and everything to get relief. its sad but this is the real nature of the challenge of surviving crc, you are more than a match for this pathetic illness. you are an inspiration. we all really care about you. smile!

hugs,

Pete

Thanks.  I've been eating

Thanks.  I've been eating less.  That seems to be helping.  I think with the holidays, I was eating so much that the constant bathroom trips were out of control.  Now that I'm not running so much, it's at half the pain it used to be.  I do the same thing when I look in the mirror, how funny!  I tell myself, if you can get through this, you can do anything!  The things you realize when you're in pain.

Helen321

LivinginNH said:

Moo!!!    Thanks Pete, I

Moo!!!    Thanks Pete, I was sitting here crying from missing my dear Rick, but I laughed out loud at your post.  It reminded me of a time when Rick and I were driving by a dairy farm and noticed about 100 cows slowly walking up to the back pasture.  Rick pointed towards them and said; "Look it's the great cow migration of 2010!!      It hit my funny bone so it still makes me smile whenever I drive by the field.  So thank you, no more tears for tonight, I'm off to sleep now with that memory.  

And Helen dear, I wish I had the magic bullet for you, but it sounds like you're going to need a pain relieving cream, but what, I don't know.  Sorry I can't help....       I hope that you can find something that might help.  Hmmm, how about a dabbing of "magic mouthwash"?   I don't know if it would sting, but at least it numbs!  (I found that it helps if you spray your throat when you get a cold, so maybe it could help the buns too?).  I'd try a very small area first of course before spraying.  You'd think the medical community could come up with something useful for that kind of pain.

Feel better soon Helen, I wish I  could help you.  

Cyn

Awwww cyn, I wish I had magic

Awwww cyn, I wish I had magic too for you.  I hate that you are crying and glad that you could find laughter.  I laughed at the cow comment myself.  Moooooooo

There are all types of creams and supposotories(?) (You know cancer has made me realize that there are certain words that I never use and therefore don't know how to spell correctly).  It's so sad.  I'm really good at spelling usually.  Anyway, unfortunately, none of these creams or suppositories(?) are working.  Oxycodone didn't even work.  It just knocked me out for 10 hours.  I thought for sure at least that would work.  Now I have to look up how to spell suppositories. 

LOUSWIFT

Hemorrhoids

I've had hemorrhoids since my second bout with colon cancer over five years. I don't know I guess losing that much colon and the frequency of going to the bathroom really upsets them. Even wiping with baby wipes won't prevent the pain coming as it likes. My internals were so bad that I bled a lot but my Gastro guy said take medincuil (forgive the spelling) and it worked. But the externals cause me a great deal of pain. Fortunately I have my little pain pills given to me to help with the pain of my recent RFA for my third cancer for the liver. I take the pill and within a half to an hour no pain......anywhere. I used to take about one a week  but now its about two a day. I try to watch it because they are "habit forming" but you know the pain is so bad well at my age and maybe dying of liver cancer (should find out in about a week) I really don't care. I do enjoy dreaming of ripping off the roids of a couple of doctors. You know give them the oportunity to feel our pain