Zytita and heart conditions

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ralph.townsend1 said:

Food for Cancer
My doctor at MDACC said NO WAY on quiting the lupron. Because of the Lupron shuting off the food to the cancer. The Zytiga would not work alone and I would see a increase in the psa and my tumors. MDACC said the heart condition was not associated with the Zytiga or Lupron. The Diabetes II even if it is under control, still he points the finger at it!

Sorry to hear
Ralph; As one Vietnam Vet and Brother hang in there and take it easy.

Kurt

Samsungtech1

ralph.townsend1 said:

Food for Cancer
My doctor at MDACC said NO WAY on quiting the lupron. Because of the Lupron shuting off the food to the cancer. The Zytiga would not work alone and I would see a increase in the psa and my tumors. MDACC said the heart condition was not associated with the Zytiga or Lupron. The Diabetes II even if it is under control, still he points the finger at it!

Ralph,
Have you researched the difference between Lupron and Zytiga? What is the difference? Also go back through your medications. Did they add a new one before the heart problems? I am going through the same thing. Been having pain in cheat, but because I started coughing up blood I figured me lung cancer was coming back. Onc sent me to heart doctor. Ekg today was normal, heart normal, so Thursday I get the neuclear stress test. My CT scans came back negative. Nodules still gone. So I have 911 on speed dial. Just waiting for it.
I do not care what any doctor tells you. It is your life. Figure outmwhen the pain started and then remember, good luck with this, My memory is gone, what pill theygave you. What good does it do if they save you from cancer but kill you with a heart attack?

Check all of it out Ralph. Trust your judgment.

Mike

ralph.townsend1

Samsungtech1 said:

Ralph,
Have you researched the difference between Lupron and Zytiga? What is the difference? Also go back through your medications. Did they add a new one before the heart problems? I am going through the same thing. Been having pain in cheat, but because I started coughing up blood I figured me lung cancer was coming back. Onc sent me to heart doctor. Ekg today was normal, heart normal, so Thursday I get the neuclear stress test. My CT scans came back negative. Nodules still gone. So I have 911 on speed dial. Just waiting for it.
I do not care what any doctor tells you. It is your life. Figure outmwhen the pain started and then remember, good luck with this, My memory is gone, what pill theygave you. What good does it do if they save you from cancer but kill you with a heart attack?

Check all of it out Ralph. Trust your judgment.

Mike

Guy's
Guy's I'm fine, Going on my first of two vacation's this year. Have not been anywhere in 10 years. I hope the beaches are clothes optional.

Kurt and mike! its know big thing! I'm fine!!!@!

I see MDACC in six weeks and i will voice my concerns!!!!


PSA still at 0.3 so they must be doing something right!!!

God bless Y'all!!!!

:-)

ralph.townsend1

VascodaGama said:

Plavix
Ralph
If you mean Plavix (clopidogrel) this is a drug to prevent blood clots after a heart attack.
Just read this link for the side effects;
http://www.drugs.com/plavix.html

However, not to alarm you, I think it better to inform the doctor controlling Zytiga because it may interact with Prednisone.

Wishing you recover the soonest.

Side effect
Vgama

As all drugs have side effect's. To say that the one's that I have are connected to the drug or any of the many drug's I take. Can cause Heart attack, so should I stop all drugs.

Samsungtech1

ralph.townsend1 said:

Side effect
Vgama

As all drugs have side effect's. To say that the one's that I have are connected to the drug or any of the many drug's I take. Can cause Heart attack, so should I stop all drugs.

Peace brother
I worry about you, am following in your footsteps. I worry with drugs because they cause side effects that you have no way of knowing where they come from.

Sorry for the over reaction. There are only so many of us left. If we do not watch out for one another who will. My brother in law was apache gun ship pilot. He got 2 DFC's 4 purple hearts, a silver star, a bronze star with oak leaf clusters. He was that bad dude you never wanted to meet. Got shot down twice. Once when they lost all the helicopters in VN. He is a hero. Suffers from wounds, and broken bones from crashes, but still a presence.

We all need to take care of one another. No one else will.

Mike

VascodaGama

Samsungtech1 said:

Peace brother
I worry about you, am following in your footsteps. I worry with drugs because they cause side effects that you have no way of knowing where they come from.

Sorry for the over reaction. There are only so many of us left. If we do not watch out for one another who will. My brother in law was apache gun ship pilot. He got 2 DFC's 4 purple hearts, a silver star, a bronze star with oak leaf clusters. He was that bad dude you never wanted to meet. Got shot down twice. Once when they lost all the helicopters in VN. He is a hero. Suffers from wounds, and broken bones from crashes, but still a presence.

We all need to take care of one another. No one else will.

Mike

Alive and kicking
Ralph

It is nice to read your posts again. And more than that, you seem to be alive and kicking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljIQo1OHkTI.

Your doctor may be right but I disagree with his reasoning. Lupron stops production of testosterone which is necessary to many functions in our body. The cancer may be starving but so are other vital systems that keep us alive. Patients with low levels of circulating testosterone in longer periods of time are at risk of heart attacks. One must think about priorities. Surely for your doctor it is more important to see successes in the treatment of prostate cancer (his responsible). As you comment the results in terms of PSA demonstrates exactly that.
However, another doctor may have tried to avoid the risks the treatment entails, and, at first sign of trouble, would alter protocols.
I am confident that Dr. Charles Myers would do just that.

In any case, instead of cutting on medications, doctors usually try to circumvent complications with the aid from other drugs firstly. Probably Plavix was chosen thinking in your protocol but you should inquire for any interaction between the drugs you are taking, and get adviced or the symptoms and on what to do if any goes wrong.
You got an example with the Prednisone that it is by itself already an aiding drug taken with the purposes to avoid any effect that Zytiga may cause to other body function.

Not all the drugs interact between them but many cannot be taken and are strictly prohibitive.

I am happy to know about your plans for the beach trip. Enjoy the bikinis and try to get not so excited. Have a good time.

Best.
VGama

ralph.townsend1

Samsungtech1 said:

Peace brother
I worry about you, am following in your footsteps. I worry with drugs because they cause side effects that you have no way of knowing where they come from.

Sorry for the over reaction. There are only so many of us left. If we do not watch out for one another who will. My brother in law was apache gun ship pilot. He got 2 DFC's 4 purple hearts, a silver star, a bronze star with oak leaf clusters. He was that bad dude you never wanted to meet. Got shot down twice. Once when they lost all the helicopters in VN. He is a hero. Suffers from wounds, and broken bones from crashes, but still a presence.

We all need to take care of one another. No one else will.

Mike

No over reaction
War is terrible! Your brother in law is a HERO! At four purple hearts they send them home, so he came home and he probably has some problem's, if not manying!

The drugs are doing fine, I just need a different Heart doctor! Mike YOU hang in there, and let us live history.

Samsungtech1

ralph.townsend1 said:

No over reaction
War is terrible! Your brother in law is a HERO! At four purple hearts they send them home, so he came home and he probably has some problem's, if not manying!

The drugs are doing fine, I just need a different Heart doctor! Mike YOU hang in there, and let us live history.

Heart
Ralph,
Going formuclear stress test for heart tomorrow. My onc was surprised I had not had test done before. Told him Dr. Told me you areon the table. We don't need any tests. LAD was blocked. Lucked out. Ihope you find a good Dr.

Good luck,

Mike

ralph.townsend1

Samsungtech1 said:

Heart
Ralph,
Going formuclear stress test for heart tomorrow. My onc was surprised I had not had test done before. Told him Dr. Told me you areon the table. We don't need any tests. LAD was blocked. Lucked out. Ihope you find a good Dr.

Good luck,

Mike

Prostate cancer, Heart condition, and probably other conditions?
Mike,

I hope I fine you safe and in good condition. You need to be check every year. My MDACC doctor said the best thing I should have is a strong heart to fight the Drugs and the Prostate cancer. The weather starting to cool off early in the morning and its time to get my walking shoes on!!! Since my stent, I'm feeling better.

God Bless and you take care

Ralph

Samsungtech1

ralph.townsend1 said:

Prostate cancer, Heart condition, and probably other conditions?
Mike,

I hope I fine you safe and in good condition. You need to be check every year. My MDACC doctor said the best thing I should have is a strong heart to fight the Drugs and the Prostate cancer. The weather starting to cool off early in the morning and its time to get my walking shoes on!!! Since my stent, I'm feeling better.

God Bless and you take care

Ralph

Heart
Ralph,
Get results next week. Weird test. They inject you with drugs that feel like you have been kicked in the gut. Still have headache from it. They sat it stimulates a vigorous work out. I think I would have taken the treadle.

Texas walking? Good thing about walking in Texas is that you have to walk fast to keep your tennies from sticking to the sidewalk. Good luck with that. Is the temperature in the morning below 80 yet?

Good luck bro. Keep in touch.

Mike

ralph.townsend1

Samsungtech1 said:

Heart
Ralph,
Get results next week. Weird test. They inject you with drugs that feel like you have been kicked in the gut. Still have headache from it. They sat it stimulates a vigorous work out. I think I would have taken the treadle.

Texas walking? Good thing about walking in Texas is that you have to walk fast to keep your tennies from sticking to the sidewalk. Good luck with that. Is the temperature in the morning below 80 yet?

Good luck bro. Keep in touch.

Mike

At Heart hospital in Dallas
After my stent in mid August at a local hospital by my heart specialist. I started having chest pain about two days after and thought that it was the ghost pain. They continued so slowly over the three to get worst and went back to the heart specialist and he wanted to go back in. I said no first, but by last Sunday I went to the Heart hospital and do another Angioplasty. The specialist told me maybe heart burn, and I gave him the PTSD look. Anyway they went in and found nothing THEY said! It's been three days and I have not had one bit of pain????? I question these doctors cover up for the over doctor. Or I'm losing it.

I know this subject has nothing to do with PC, But the cancer medicine Zytiga might, or Diabetes II, or the Agent Orange. Pick one!!

Samsungtech1

ralph.townsend1 said:

At Heart hospital in Dallas
After my stent in mid August at a local hospital by my heart specialist. I started having chest pain about two days after and thought that it was the ghost pain. They continued so slowly over the three to get worst and went back to the heart specialist and he wanted to go back in. I said no first, but by last Sunday I went to the Heart hospital and do another Angioplasty. The specialist told me maybe heart burn, and I gave him the PTSD look. Anyway they went in and found nothing THEY said! It's been three days and I have not had one bit of pain????? I question these doctors cover up for the over doctor. Or I'm losing it.

I know this subject has nothing to do with PC, But the cancer medicine Zytiga might, or Diabetes II, or the Agent Orange. Pick one!!

Pain
Ralph,
Are you still having pain in your chest? Not sure from your post. I would read your med warning labels. Do not think you could have escaped side effects with all that is going on. Lost my right wrist today. Hurts bad enough for percocet. Not sure if it is cancer or arthertic effects from pills. Bad timing as my son and I are heading to Alaska next month to go trout fishing. Right wrist is crucile. I am going no matter what. World record for rainbow trout was 44 pounds. Plus steelhead are still there. Steelhead rock! Anyhow hopefully I will have enough body parts to fish.

I hope you get to the bottom of this. I still strongly suspect that you might be having aide effects. I,atpresent,am not having too many side effects. Ican feel my. Muscles shrinking, my leg muscles are retreating, my pot belly is hanging in there. I am now at 35 inch waist. I have about two inches of fat that does not want to go away. If it likes me that much I figure it should stay.

Take care brother,

Mike

ralph.townsend1

Samsungtech1 said:

Pain
Ralph,
Are you still having pain in your chest? Not sure from your post. I would read your med warning labels. Do not think you could have escaped side effects with all that is going on. Lost my right wrist today. Hurts bad enough for percocet. Not sure if it is cancer or arthertic effects from pills. Bad timing as my son and I are heading to Alaska next month to go trout fishing. Right wrist is crucile. I am going no matter what. World record for rainbow trout was 44 pounds. Plus steelhead are still there. Steelhead rock! Anyhow hopefully I will have enough body parts to fish.

I hope you get to the bottom of this. I still strongly suspect that you might be having aide effects. I,atpresent,am not having too many side effects. Ican feel my. Muscles shrinking, my leg muscles are retreating, my pot belly is hanging in there. I am now at 35 inch waist. I have about two inches of fat that does not want to go away. If it likes me that much I figure it should stay.

Take care brother,

Mike

Waist line????
Oh, are you trying to make feel bad!!!

35 inch, you got to be joking! I have not seem a 35inches in 15 years.

Now a trout that 44 pounds is like seeing me at 35 inch waist line.

I hope you have a good trip. I heart is with you
.
God bless and be safe!!!!

tonybuxton

Samsungtech1 said:

Pain
Ralph,
Are you still having pain in your chest? Not sure from your post. I would read your med warning labels. Do not think you could have escaped side effects with all that is going on. Lost my right wrist today. Hurts bad enough for percocet. Not sure if it is cancer or arthertic effects from pills. Bad timing as my son and I are heading to Alaska next month to go trout fishing. Right wrist is crucile. I am going no matter what. World record for rainbow trout was 44 pounds. Plus steelhead are still there. Steelhead rock! Anyhow hopefully I will have enough body parts to fish.

I hope you get to the bottom of this. I still strongly suspect that you might be having aide effects. I,atpresent,am not having too many side effects. Ican feel my. Muscles shrinking, my leg muscles are retreating, my pot belly is hanging in there. I am now at 35 inch waist. I have about two inches of fat that does not want to go away. If it likes me that much I figure it should stay.

Take care brother,

Mike

Mike I envy you. I wish I
Mike I envy you. I wish I could afford to go trout fishing. I did a lot in New Zealand some years back. You are a fine example to all of us. In spite of all your medical problems you are doing the things you want to do and I hope you get a great big rainbow. My record was about 7 pounds but it was great eating.
Good luck
Tony

VascodaGama

tonybuxton said:

Mike I envy you. I wish I
Mike I envy you. I wish I could afford to go trout fishing. I did a lot in New Zealand some years back. You are a fine example to all of us. In spite of all your medical problems you are doing the things you want to do and I hope you get a great big rainbow. My record was about 7 pounds but it was great eating.
Good luck
Tony

Nothing to do with PC
Great posts and great adventures from great patients of this forum. The 44 pounds, 35 inch and 81-sex affair made me laugh. A joke I heard and never forget from my times at the hospital was this;

During one of Prime Minister Tony Blair's visits to a Home for the elderly, he said to one woman, "Do you know who I am?"
She replied, "If you don't remember who you are, just go to the front desk and the nice lady at the reception will tell you."

And the good news;
After a virtual (CT) and an endoscopic examination of the colon (total colonoscopy) the Gastroenterologist diagnosed me with Diverticulosis. He commented this being an old men’s disease. He found several diverticula (bulging pockets) along the colon but did not find any scar from past radiation therapy (IMRT). At the time of the test there were no signs of bleeding so he thinks that my previous bleeding experience were due to an occasional diverticular bleeding or inner haemorrhoidal bleeding. Both do not usually cause pain (abdominal).

I am satisfied with the results and want to celebrate with a good Portuguese red. How about sharing with me a drink and a joke.

VGama

tonybuxton

VascodaGama said:

Nothing to do with PC
Great posts and great adventures from great patients of this forum. The 44 pounds, 35 inch and 81-sex affair made me laugh. A joke I heard and never forget from my times at the hospital was this;

During one of Prime Minister Tony Blair's visits to a Home for the elderly, he said to one woman, "Do you know who I am?"
She replied, "If you don't remember who you are, just go to the front desk and the nice lady at the reception will tell you."

And the good news;
After a virtual (CT) and an endoscopic examination of the colon (total colonoscopy) the Gastroenterologist diagnosed me with Diverticulosis. He commented this being an old men’s disease. He found several diverticula (bulging pockets) along the colon but did not find any scar from past radiation therapy (IMRT). At the time of the test there were no signs of bleeding so he thinks that my previous bleeding experience were due to an occasional diverticular bleeding or inner haemorrhoidal bleeding. Both do not usually cause pain (abdominal).

I am satisfied with the results and want to celebrate with a good Portuguese red. How about sharing with me a drink and a joke.

VGama

PCa problems
Sorry Guys I sent a reply to mike instead of Ralf about trout fishing.
When I read about how you are suffering and dealing with your Pca problems I feel so lucky that at present I have none.
Re post about diverticulitis I don't think it is much to worry about. I have had it for years. It seems to come and go.
Good luck VGAma I wish I could join you for a glass of "Mateus Rose" My parents retired to the Algarve and when I visited I drank huge quantities of this wine at About Cts 75 a bottle then. Now I have to pay $20 so I can't afford it.
To Ralf the Zoladex (Lupron) did give me angina and diabetes. I never had it before and never again after I stopped.
Best to you all
Tony

Samsungtech1

tonybuxton said:

PCa problems
Sorry Guys I sent a reply to mike instead of Ralf about trout fishing.
When I read about how you are suffering and dealing with your Pca problems I feel so lucky that at present I have none.
Re post about diverticulitis I don't think it is much to worry about. I have had it for years. It seems to come and go.
Good luck VGAma I wish I could join you for a glass of "Mateus Rose" My parents retired to the Algarve and when I visited I drank huge quantities of this wine at About Cts 75 a bottle then. Now I have to pay $20 so I can't afford it.
To Ralf the Zoladex (Lupron) did give me angina and diabetes. I never had it before and never again after I stopped.
Best to you all
Tony

PCa problems
Tony,
Our problems are just part of life. We deal with them as they come up. It's all good. We enjoy what we have. If we didn't have a sense of humor we would really have a hard time. Life is good. Trout fishing is an extra. Son came up with the idea. Works. It is beautiful up there and October is low tourist. Good time to go.

Vgama,
My mother-in-law has that. Main thing I heard was not toneat seeds. She has been doing that for years and all is good. I wish you well. When I lived in San Francisco, born there, Mateus really got popular. We use to pass it around till it was empty. Start on another one. I am sure we helped Portugals economy immensely.
I look forward to sharing some good wine with you next spring.

Mike