Discussion of Sugar on 60 Minutes tonight!

mom2greatkids

Ladies,

60 minutes will be having a segment on sugar tonight (Sunday). It comes on CBS at 6:00 central time. I just set the dvd player to record it for me.

Thought some of you might be interested.

Carla

mopar

I SAW THAT, TOO, CARLA!
It's about time someone will admit there is a connection between sugar and health, especially cancer. I'm definitely interested in listening!


Monika

Tethys41

Finally
Now we can say that sugar DOES feed cancer.

Radioactive34

Tethys41 said:

Finally
Now we can say that sugar DOES feed cancer.

Thanks
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7403942n

I am such a sugar addict. I have cut it down. Living here makes it easier. There are so many organic and healthier foods. Still it is hard. I can't walk by the cookie aisle without longing.

It would be funny, except I got cancer. It is ironic that we were migrant workers and could not really afford the food we picked. I grew up on sugary drinks that were cheaper than juice. I cut out soda prior to age 10. I drank water and almost all WIC approved juices growing up.

Cakes and cookies were out of our reach, but tortillas were not. My grandma had an organic farm prior to the local big box coming to town......lol, we could not afford the chemicals bigger farms could. She supplied meat to the area. The big box put her out of business. The big box grocery store allowed my parents more than living off the land, so they saw it as a blessing.

Sad, that they did not understand the difference between real and fake juice. The juice is an example. Much of what we ate we understood was not the healthiest. Even sadder that it did not matter, we were too poor to afford healthier food. The cycle continues, my neices and nephews find themselves in the same conondrum. Crappy economy, food prices sky rocketting, and the cheaper food is killing you, but it helps you feed the family for the week.

mom2greatkids

Radioactive34 said:

Thanks
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7403942n

I am such a sugar addict. I have cut it down. Living here makes it easier. There are so many organic and healthier foods. Still it is hard. I can't walk by the cookie aisle without longing.

It would be funny, except I got cancer. It is ironic that we were migrant workers and could not really afford the food we picked. I grew up on sugary drinks that were cheaper than juice. I cut out soda prior to age 10. I drank water and almost all WIC approved juices growing up.

Cakes and cookies were out of our reach, but tortillas were not. My grandma had an organic farm prior to the local big box coming to town......lol, we could not afford the chemicals bigger farms could. She supplied meat to the area. The big box put her out of business. The big box grocery store allowed my parents more than living off the land, so they saw it as a blessing.

Sad, that they did not understand the difference between real and fake juice. The juice is an example. Much of what we ate we understood was not the healthiest. Even sadder that it did not matter, we were too poor to afford healthier food. The cycle continues, my neices and nephews find themselves in the same conondrum. Crappy economy, food prices sky rocketting, and the cheaper food is killing you, but it helps you feed the family for the week.

Unhealthy food is cheaper,
Unhealthy food is cheaper, and also convenient. I know families who make a decent amount of money. Yet they eat convenience food, and eat out a whole lot. It fits their busy lifestyles. It's really sad. Here in MS we have Aldis stores. Fresh produce is VERY affordable. For example, a couple of weeks ago I bought a fresh pineapple for 99 cents. They were $2.98 at Wal-Mart and Kroger.

I have told my sister that if only healthy foods are offered,, the kids will eat them. What choice do they have?

Carla

carolenk

Tethys41 said:

Finally
Now we can say that sugar DOES feed cancer.

TethysYou know that there
Tethys

You know that there will always be people who refuse to see the cancer-sugar connection. I admire your persistence in reminding us what seems to be an inconvenient truth.

Change theory speaks about people making changes in their life when they BELIEVE the change will benefit them. All the intellectual information is useless unless someone has the belief to go with the knowledge.

Thanks for staying on the discussion board and walking your talk. I am of course very disappointed that dietary changes didn't give me the big payoff that I was hoping for (still waiting to dance with NED). My family reminds me that I probably would have been dead by now if I hadn't done everthing I did to help myself seeing how aggressive the cancer was. I do believe that dietary changes have mitagated the aggressiveness of this condition considerably & so I really should be less discouraged than I am.

RoseyR

carolenk said:

TethysYou know that there
Tethys

You know that there will always be people who refuse to see the cancer-sugar connection. I admire your persistence in reminding us what seems to be an inconvenient truth.

Change theory speaks about people making changes in their life when they BELIEVE the change will benefit them. All the intellectual information is useless unless someone has the belief to go with the knowledge.

Thanks for staying on the discussion board and walking your talk. I am of course very disappointed that dietary changes didn't give me the big payoff that I was hoping for (still waiting to dance with NED). My family reminds me that I probably would have been dead by now if I hadn't done everthing I did to help myself seeing how aggressive the cancer was. I do believe that dietary changes have mitagated the aggressiveness of this condition considerably & so I really should be less discouraged than I am.

Thanks, Tethys and Carolenk

That it took one doctor's testimonials on "Sixty Minutes" to persuade some Americans that sugar is more akin to a drug than a natural substance is evidence of our national ignorance.

I assume that the two of you have sugar in NO form whatsoever (not even raw honey or artificial sweeteners such as Stevia) except, perhaps, a bit of fresh fruit?

I've been really vigilant about avoiding sugar and "glucose surges" from white bread for a year and a half now. But visiting a friend in California last week, I DID have a fifth of a bar of organic dark chocolate with blueberries and ginger--twice, after dinner. The dark chocolate in and of itself in small quanities is full of polyphenols, supposedly great for us.

Does anyone know of an organic chocolate with no added sugar?

Thanks,
Rosey

Tethys41

RoseyR said:

Thanks, Tethys and Carolenk

That it took one doctor's testimonials on "Sixty Minutes" to persuade some Americans that sugar is more akin to a drug than a natural substance is evidence of our national ignorance.

I assume that the two of you have sugar in NO form whatsoever (not even raw honey or artificial sweeteners such as Stevia) except, perhaps, a bit of fresh fruit?

I've been really vigilant about avoiding sugar and "glucose surges" from white bread for a year and a half now. But visiting a friend in California last week, I DID have a fifth of a bar of organic dark chocolate with blueberries and ginger--twice, after dinner. The dark chocolate in and of itself in small quanities is full of polyphenols, supposedly great for us.

Does anyone know of an organic chocolate with no added sugar?

Thanks,
Rosey

No added sugars
Rosey,
As for me, I do not eat any added sugar. I do, on rare occasion, have stevia, but that is the only sweetner that does not raise blood sugar. It contains no sugar at all. I understand that xylitol is also a sweetner that does not affect blood sugar, but it is SO toxic to dogs, I just don't trust it. I think, as with anything, if you start using it a lot, it will turn out not to be as safe as they think.
I keep my sugar intake to under 20 grams per day, per the advice of my nutritionist. So, even when it comes to fruit, I only eat the low sugar ones, like berries. When I say sugar, I mean the sugar that is contained in the berries and other organic whole foods I eat. I have a very complex smoothie each morning and when I add up all the sugar in it, it comes to 8 grams. So, that eats up over 1/3 of the total amount I eat in a day.
The only chocolate I've found that fits the criteria are some specialty ones that are made from raw Cacao and coconut butter. These are raw foods and aren't like chocolate bars.
CarolenK,
I am fully aware that not everyone is going to commit to reducing their intake of sugar, and that is certainly not my intent. It is an individual choice. I just think people should make an informed decision and I have never been satisfied with the argument that "my doctor didn't say I should avoid it."

Hissy_Fitz

carolenk said:

TethysYou know that there
Tethys

You know that there will always be people who refuse to see the cancer-sugar connection. I admire your persistence in reminding us what seems to be an inconvenient truth.

Change theory speaks about people making changes in their life when they BELIEVE the change will benefit them. All the intellectual information is useless unless someone has the belief to go with the knowledge.

Thanks for staying on the discussion board and walking your talk. I am of course very disappointed that dietary changes didn't give me the big payoff that I was hoping for (still waiting to dance with NED). My family reminds me that I probably would have been dead by now if I hadn't done everthing I did to help myself seeing how aggressive the cancer was. I do believe that dietary changes have mitagated the aggressiveness of this condition considerably & so I really should be less discouraged than I am.

Carole... You are absolutely
Carole... You are absolutely right about changing people's behavior, it can't be done until they believe they need to change, for their own benefit. I did not stop smoking because I wanted to, I stopped because I eventually feared the risk more than I enjoyed smoking - which was a LOT. Fortunately, I don't love sugar as much as my body loves nicotine. I eat it sparingly, and never in the form of "junk food," simply because I think too much of anything is bad for you, even sunshine.

I think most people who consume a lot of sugar also eat a huge amount of processed food. Not that I'm saying processed food causes cancer - I have no idea if it does or not - but I think additives and artificial dyes etc are probably not especially good for humans, either.

I'm trying to eat like my grandmother did. She lived to be 92 years old. Her siblings all lived to be 90 and older. My great aunt locked herself out of the house when she was 88 years old and instead of bothering the neighbors, she just climbed in through the window.

Carlene

undertreatment2012

Hissy_Fitz said:

Carole... You are absolutely
Carole... You are absolutely right about changing people's behavior, it can't be done until they believe they need to change, for their own benefit. I did not stop smoking because I wanted to, I stopped because I eventually feared the risk more than I enjoyed smoking - which was a LOT. Fortunately, I don't love sugar as much as my body loves nicotine. I eat it sparingly, and never in the form of "junk food," simply because I think too much of anything is bad for you, even sunshine.

I think most people who consume a lot of sugar also eat a huge amount of processed food. Not that I'm saying processed food causes cancer - I have no idea if it does or not - but I think additives and artificial dyes etc are probably not especially good for humans, either.

I'm trying to eat like my grandmother did. She lived to be 92 years old. Her siblings all lived to be 90 and older. My great aunt locked herself out of the house when she was 88 years old and instead of bothering the neighbors, she just climbed in through the window.

Carlene

sugar
so what or how did your grandmother eat? The more I read the more I think mine is familial. I have not had the testing and most of my family on both sides were gone before I was born. My GRANDMOTHER was gone when I was two and she was 80 something, so anyone before her or even on the other side of the family wer looooong gone before I was born, so who would know? They did not diagnos things like they do now. I can hear it now, "well she had this and that, then she died" and they never knew from what really. I say this because as far as sugar goes I have always strictly limited myself. I am not a dessert person, i have no interest in cakes and cookies, soda has never been an issue for me, i love water, always have. Of course in my life I have consumed sugar, but I have also been aware and limited it. I just think, in my case I was doomed. But, I will tell anyone who will listen about sugar and cancer, anyone who will listen.

carolenk

undertreatment2012 said:

sugar
so what or how did your grandmother eat? The more I read the more I think mine is familial. I have not had the testing and most of my family on both sides were gone before I was born. My GRANDMOTHER was gone when I was two and she was 80 something, so anyone before her or even on the other side of the family wer looooong gone before I was born, so who would know? They did not diagnos things like they do now. I can hear it now, "well she had this and that, then she died" and they never knew from what really. I say this because as far as sugar goes I have always strictly limited myself. I am not a dessert person, i have no interest in cakes and cookies, soda has never been an issue for me, i love water, always have. Of course in my life I have consumed sugar, but I have also been aware and limited it. I just think, in my case I was doomed. But, I will tell anyone who will listen about sugar and cancer, anyone who will listen.

Confession time
Sugar & sweets are EASY for me to give up. It's bread that keeps calling my name! Ha, ha!

Carlene: you beat a cigarette addiction--you are tough enough to beat cancer!