Pete in ATLANTA next weekend 3-4th March, anyone want to have a coffee or juice ?????

pete43lost_at_sea

hi guys,

just popping over to the USA for a few days to study environmental toxins.
Heavy metal toxity is my area of study at present.

I will be in atlanta and am free sunday arvo between 1pm and 5pm seeing the sites and would like to catchup if anyone from this board is free. just PM me.

hugs,
pete

Lovekitties

Dear Pete
If I didn't already have plans for that weekend I might just have popped down there to chat. I used to live in Atlanta many moons ago.

Hope you have good weather for your trip.

Hugs,

Marie who loves kitties

Lovekitties

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geotina

Hi Pete:
Not in Atlanta but noted you are studying environmental toxins. Thought I would tell you my daughter works in that area. She received her degree from Michigan State University, School of Agriculture, in Environmental Studies. She currently works in Chicago and does environmenal impact studies on properties, for a world wide real estate company. The company has several hundred employees and offices around the world. In fact, last year I learned that Peggy (Plucky on this board) works for the same company but in a different area.

Have fun in Atlanta - Tina

ketziah35

I am in Atlanta. Where are
I am in Atlanta. Where are you going to be?

Ktz

pete43lost_at_sea

ketziah35 said:

I am in Atlanta. Where are
I am in Atlanta. Where are you going to be?

Ktz

hi ketziah
hi ketziah,

at metametrix
all day saturday the 3rd march and until 12noon sunday the 4th.
then back to the hilton where i am staying friday and saturday night.
flying out from atlanta airport sunday night back home.

i hate being away from the kids, but i felt an irressistable urge to attend this semina/conference. i am so glad one of my favourite doctors offered me a job of some description helping with cancer research. mainly a combo protocol based on the strategies for surviving cancer that seem to appeal or have merit.

My focus is to learn and study as much as i can over the conference about toxins.
Specifically heavy metals and the others.
Given my poor genetic detox pathways i suspect my bpa's to be through the roof as well.
http://petertrayhurn.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/going-to-metalmetrix-toxins-conference.html#!http://petertrayhurn.blogspot.com/2012/02/going-to-metalmetrix-toxins-conference.html
I still looking at confirming enrolment in a post graduate degree in this area of medicine.
Yes its a big jump from computer science, which was my main degree 25 years ago. that sounds like a long time.

Metametrix Clinical Laboratory
3425 Corporate Way
Duluth, Georgia 30096
www.metametrix.com


Hilton Atlanta Northeast
5993 Peachtree Industrial Blvd.
Norcross, GA
United States, 30092
Tel: 1 770-447-4747
Fax: 1 678-533-3333

Would love to catchup.

hugs,
Pete

flyguide

pete43lost_at_sea said:

hi ketziah
hi ketziah,

at metametrix
all day saturday the 3rd march and until 12noon sunday the 4th.
then back to the hilton where i am staying friday and saturday night.
flying out from atlanta airport sunday night back home.

i hate being away from the kids, but i felt an irressistable urge to attend this semina/conference. i am so glad one of my favourite doctors offered me a job of some description helping with cancer research. mainly a combo protocol based on the strategies for surviving cancer that seem to appeal or have merit.

My focus is to learn and study as much as i can over the conference about toxins.
Specifically heavy metals and the others.
Given my poor genetic detox pathways i suspect my bpa's to be through the roof as well.
http://petertrayhurn.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/going-to-metalmetrix-toxins-conference.html#!http://petertrayhurn.blogspot.com/2012/02/going-to-metalmetrix-toxins-conference.html
I still looking at confirming enrolment in a post graduate degree in this area of medicine.
Yes its a big jump from computer science, which was my main degree 25 years ago. that sounds like a long time.

Metametrix Clinical Laboratory
3425 Corporate Way
Duluth, Georgia 30096
www.metametrix.com


Hilton Atlanta Northeast
5993 Peachtree Industrial Blvd.
Norcross, GA
United States, 30092
Tel: 1 770-447-4747
Fax: 1 678-533-3333

Would love to catchup.

hugs,
Pete

atlanta
Hi Pete..I am flying to atlanta tuesday..I know you are leaving but if your plans change please repost..I would love to meet you..you have helped me so with my complementary supplements..I follow your blog as you are an inspiration..I am a lurker here but I am inspired by so many brave warriors that post here..I take pretty much everything you take with some additional things like OPC and LDN and starting Haelan..anyway I hope one day to meet you..keep fighting hard and smart..sean flyguide

pete43lost_at_sea

flyguide said:

atlanta
Hi Pete..I am flying to atlanta tuesday..I know you are leaving but if your plans change please repost..I would love to meet you..you have helped me so with my complementary supplements..I follow your blog as you are an inspiration..I am a lurker here but I am inspired by so many brave warriors that post here..I take pretty much everything you take with some additional things like OPC and LDN and starting Haelan..anyway I hope one day to meet you..keep fighting hard and smart..sean flyguide

thanks flyguide
thats really kind, i don't get alot of positive feedback here, but i do through up all that i find and try.

the idea of working together, synergy between colorectal patients who have the same approach to alternatives.

sorry i have missed you, but i want to do more conferences and i am keen to not miss too many iv vitamin c sessions.

hugs,
Pete

flyguide

pete43lost_at_sea said:

thanks flyguide
thats really kind, i don't get alot of positive feedback here, but i do through up all that i find and try.

the idea of working together, synergy between colorectal patients who have the same approach to alternatives.

sorry i have missed you, but i want to do more conferences and i am keen to not miss too many iv vitamin c sessions.

hugs,
Pete

safe travels
safe travels pete!! There is such a need for communication with like minded cancer warriors..I research hours a day and want to take everything but Im tapped out at around 90 pills and a few liquid things..some with food and some without.ect..you know the challenge..Its amazing how many options there are..anyway I so believe in that synergy you speak so wisely of could save lives and anything I can do to help it would be an honor..again safe travels pete

pete43lost_at_sea

I blinked and the conference was over
The conference was great, lots of open minded doctors searching the best for their patients using the latest tests from metametrix. this is science based medicine at the coal front. where these doctors are aiming takes nutrition and genetics to the bleeding edge. I want to be at the head of the curve, not still on the starting blocks when the race starts.

my gut feeling is that functional and integrative medicine will be adopted by mainstream medicine sooner rather than later. what will make all the difference is patients demanding the best care. thats all i am doing. I may end up becoming a doctor in the process. I needed a career change anyway.

speakers were exceptional and i learned lots. I am glad i have been studying heavy metal toxity for months now. I actually had a better handle on it than some of the doctors I was chatting with.

I found lots of areas where my regime could be improved. Now I have the most amazing contacts, to get real answers.

As a patient I have the luxury to concentrate on my own specific needs.

The sky is falling with regard to environmental toxity, thats the message from the conference.
You need to know your detox status and then your levels of toxity and then come up with a plan.

I was the only patient at this medical conference, and i answered a few questions for the doctors. noone has all the answers, it seems.

very nice subject as i have just flown half way around the world be be the most educated patient in the area of heavy metal toxity and toxins in general.

knowledge is power, we need all the help we can get!

the most important issue raised was
cimetidine lowering your phase1 detox pathway. I need to check this out in more detail, but thats how it was explained. I am taking cimetidine, I knew about some of its side effects, but this one might be a show stopper especially while undergoing chelation.

none of my sydney doctors spotted this issue and can make an informed decision if cimetidine should be in or out of my regime. either permanently or temporarily. another issue is that i was advised against fulmic acid as apart of the current chelation program, suggested activated charcoal to get the contents of the large intestine dumped fast to stop the reabsorption porblem.

lots of great doctors from all over the world. I recorded the conference and took some photos and am sending a few doctors the audio. Its worth lsitening to again and again.

The other key take home point is now i am going organic, now i understand how bad the effects of pesticides are on some of our internal systems.

I have also subscribed to the alternative health review, as recommended by one of the speakers.

I gave the managing director of the company my genetic profile and all the accompanying info as they are doing gene snps as well.

Metametrix is a great small american company, they had other attendees from brazil and the Uk.
The hilton is a nice hotel, and I wish my USA visit was longer and I might yet see someone from CSN. I am getting really tired and should be able sleep for entire flight home.

we are living in interesting times. I wanted to give a thankyou speech to all the doctors and to the staff at metametrix who gave up their weekend to be better educated to help their patients. I did the thankyou speech silently.

hugs,
pete

ps this post is being made from the hilton atlanta, the business center, been off the net and been concentrating on the conference material. about to fly home in a couple of hours.

pps if anyone is worried about heavy metals or environmental toxity you can call metametrix, they have a referral service for doctors they have trained. Not me. The few doctors I spoke with during the conference, were all impressive in different ways. I even got a few hugs and well wishes for my future. I just said see you at the next conference. this is not an add or spam, its just somewhere to start if your interested in toxicity in general.

ppps. I disagree with the conference panel about nac with regard to cancer patients specifically and silencing our cells own dna repair mechanisms. see my blog about antioxidants being bad for us. I am blessed to have friends in the research community. this is based on my gut feeling about SFN and natural therapies trumping heaps of articial antioxidants.

pppps the issue here is that the conference focus was chelation and toxicity not surviving cancer. this is where i have the luxury to put my research for my regime and my genetics in the context of the latest treatment ideas for toxicity presented at the conference.

northernlites

pete43lost_at_sea said:

I blinked and the conference was over
The conference was great, lots of open minded doctors searching the best for their patients using the latest tests from metametrix. this is science based medicine at the coal front. where these doctors are aiming takes nutrition and genetics to the bleeding edge. I want to be at the head of the curve, not still on the starting blocks when the race starts.

my gut feeling is that functional and integrative medicine will be adopted by mainstream medicine sooner rather than later. what will make all the difference is patients demanding the best care. thats all i am doing. I may end up becoming a doctor in the process. I needed a career change anyway.

speakers were exceptional and i learned lots. I am glad i have been studying heavy metal toxity for months now. I actually had a better handle on it than some of the doctors I was chatting with.

I found lots of areas where my regime could be improved. Now I have the most amazing contacts, to get real answers.

As a patient I have the luxury to concentrate on my own specific needs.

The sky is falling with regard to environmental toxity, thats the message from the conference.
You need to know your detox status and then your levels of toxity and then come up with a plan.

I was the only patient at this medical conference, and i answered a few questions for the doctors. noone has all the answers, it seems.

very nice subject as i have just flown half way around the world be be the most educated patient in the area of heavy metal toxity and toxins in general.

knowledge is power, we need all the help we can get!

the most important issue raised was
cimetidine lowering your phase1 detox pathway. I need to check this out in more detail, but thats how it was explained. I am taking cimetidine, I knew about some of its side effects, but this one might be a show stopper especially while undergoing chelation.

none of my sydney doctors spotted this issue and can make an informed decision if cimetidine should be in or out of my regime. either permanently or temporarily. another issue is that i was advised against fulmic acid as apart of the current chelation program, suggested activated charcoal to get the contents of the large intestine dumped fast to stop the reabsorption porblem.

lots of great doctors from all over the world. I recorded the conference and took some photos and am sending a few doctors the audio. Its worth lsitening to again and again.

The other key take home point is now i am going organic, now i understand how bad the effects of pesticides are on some of our internal systems.

I have also subscribed to the alternative health review, as recommended by one of the speakers.

I gave the managing director of the company my genetic profile and all the accompanying info as they are doing gene snps as well.

Metametrix is a great small american company, they had other attendees from brazil and the Uk.
The hilton is a nice hotel, and I wish my USA visit was longer and I might yet see someone from CSN. I am getting really tired and should be able sleep for entire flight home.

we are living in interesting times. I wanted to give a thankyou speech to all the doctors and to the staff at metametrix who gave up their weekend to be better educated to help their patients. I did the thankyou speech silently.

hugs,
pete

ps this post is being made from the hilton atlanta, the business center, been off the net and been concentrating on the conference material. about to fly home in a couple of hours.

pps if anyone is worried about heavy metals or environmental toxity you can call metametrix, they have a referral service for doctors they have trained. Not me. The few doctors I spoke with during the conference, were all impressive in different ways. I even got a few hugs and well wishes for my future. I just said see you at the next conference. this is not an add or spam, its just somewhere to start if your interested in toxicity in general.

ppps. I disagree with the conference panel about nac with regard to cancer patients specifically and silencing our cells own dna repair mechanisms. see my blog about antioxidants being bad for us. I am blessed to have friends in the research community. this is based on my gut feeling about SFN and natural therapies trumping heaps of articial antioxidants.

pppps the issue here is that the conference focus was chelation and toxicity not surviving cancer. this is where i have the luxury to put my research for my regime and my genetics in the context of the latest treatment ideas for toxicity presented at the conference.

Hi Pete,
I haven't been on
Hi Pete,
I haven't been on the post for a while....did you ever get the results of your genetic testing? I was curious to know if you are positive for lynch syndrome?

Tessa

pete43lost_at_sea

northernlites said:

Hi Pete,
I haven't been on
Hi Pete,
I haven't been on the post for a while....did you ever get the results of your genetic testing? I was curious to know if you are positive for lynch syndrome?

Tessa

i have the test results but they did not do lynch
now i have not had the testing review meeting, i have to fly to brisbane to see the specialist, noone in sydney is trained by fitgenes yet.

its a good question, tessa ?
i have so many issues to follow up, thanks for reminding me.

hugs,
pete

ps guess who has platinum toxity ? just got the heavy metals test results today on returning from the conference. i wish i had this info while i was at the conference.

smokeyjoe

pete43lost_at_sea said:

i have the test results but they did not do lynch
now i have not had the testing review meeting, i have to fly to brisbane to see the specialist, noone in sydney is trained by fitgenes yet.

its a good question, tessa ?
i have so many issues to follow up, thanks for reminding me.

hugs,
pete

ps guess who has platinum toxity ? just got the heavy metals test results today on returning from the conference. i wish i had this info while i was at the conference.

Pete, sounds like you had a
Pete, sounds like you had a very interesting time at the conference. I've been wondering as it sounds like you have toxicities way over the normal range...what is the source of all these heavy metals in your system....you stated you have platinum toxicity, is that from chemo. where you on a regime that had platinum. But, the others ones you talked about where do you think this toxic exposure came from? I see what your saying about cimetidine...I know my onc. did not want me taking it until X number of days after chemo., as the cimetidine would hinder the chemo. leaving my system which he felt would become toxic. Some enzyme in your liver is affected by cimetidine, can't think of what it is right now as I'm typing.

pete43lost_at_sea

smokeyjoe said:

Pete, sounds like you had a
Pete, sounds like you had a very interesting time at the conference. I've been wondering as it sounds like you have toxicities way over the normal range...what is the source of all these heavy metals in your system....you stated you have platinum toxicity, is that from chemo. where you on a regime that had platinum. But, the others ones you talked about where do you think this toxic exposure came from? I see what your saying about cimetidine...I know my onc. did not want me taking it until X number of days after chemo., as the cimetidine would hinder the chemo. leaving my system which he felt would become toxic. Some enzyme in your liver is affected by cimetidine, can't think of what it is right now as I'm typing.

cytochrome p54 i think is the enzyme
i really want to look into its methods of operation.
don't throw the baby out with the bath water, i just wanted to flag that issue with cimetidine. it has lots of benefits, it just needs real clinical wisdom and insight that doubt any doctors have.

i suspect we need on an individual basis funtional liver tests and then to implement cimetidine and see how well our detox works. and keep on monitoring.

thats why i just paused my cimetidine as i am starting chelation, which is equivalent to chemo in the toxin burdeb being placed on the liver.

none of my doctors, have picked this up, thats ok, i have. i am glad i have researched my butt this last 20 months of the crc odessey. i just wish i could spell. alas.

i don't know if you can turn the enyzme behaviour on and off like that with cimetidine.

the mercury i got from tuna and salmon i think.
the lead either from painting, renovating houses in my youth.
ironic that my property empire may be the cause of my demise.
i was a greedy young man, alas. following the american dream downunder.

i will give the kids a few million each and tell them to stretch it out over a long and happy life. its a nice goal anyway.

the platinum well definetily folfox.

arsenic well thats got me beat.

doing $900 of free toxin tests from the toxin conference looking at all environmental toxins like pcbs organosulphates, bpa etc eta.

i will be as clean as the virgin snow when i am finished all this detoxing. then i will see what to do with any troublesome cells left floating.

your onc sounds reasonable and his advise spot on.

so cimetidine on heavy chemo is an interesting question, i will leave it for others to discuss at their leasure, its off my program until i can confirm my detox is working fine.

i don't want heavy metals floating into the brain, its not a good thing.

hugs,
pete

smokeyjoe

pete43lost_at_sea said:

cytochrome p54 i think is the enzyme
i really want to look into its methods of operation.
don't throw the baby out with the bath water, i just wanted to flag that issue with cimetidine. it has lots of benefits, it just needs real clinical wisdom and insight that doubt any doctors have.

i suspect we need on an individual basis funtional liver tests and then to implement cimetidine and see how well our detox works. and keep on monitoring.

thats why i just paused my cimetidine as i am starting chelation, which is equivalent to chemo in the toxin burdeb being placed on the liver.

none of my doctors, have picked this up, thats ok, i have. i am glad i have researched my butt this last 20 months of the crc odessey. i just wish i could spell. alas.

i don't know if you can turn the enyzme behaviour on and off like that with cimetidine.

the mercury i got from tuna and salmon i think.
the lead either from painting, renovating houses in my youth.
ironic that my property empire may be the cause of my demise.
i was a greedy young man, alas. following the american dream downunder.

i will give the kids a few million each and tell them to stretch it out over a long and happy life. its a nice goal anyway.

the platinum well definetily folfox.

arsenic well thats got me beat.

doing $900 of free toxin tests from the toxin conference looking at all environmental toxins like pcbs organosulphates, bpa etc eta.

i will be as clean as the virgin snow when i am finished all this detoxing. then i will see what to do with any troublesome cells left floating.

your onc sounds reasonable and his advise spot on.

so cimetidine on heavy chemo is an interesting question, i will leave it for others to discuss at their leasure, its off my program until i can confirm my detox is working fine.

i don't want heavy metals floating into the brain, its not a good thing.

hugs,
pete

You may wanna check this out
Pete....You may wanna check this out ....ARSENIC AND THE USDA/FDA COVER-UP

by Lawrence Wilson, MD....

I know in the town where we live they built a subdivision on a former farm, backs onto wooded lot, people paid premium lot prices to have this forest in their back yard...the former farm was an apple orchard, they used arsenic as pesticide for the apples, now they've done soil testing and it's full of arsenic, especially leached into the forested area, the same forest people paid extra money to have in their backyard....so there you go!!! BTW, since I'm off chemo. for now I'm taking cimetidine daily.

pete43lost_at_sea

smokeyjoe said:

You may wanna check this out
Pete....You may wanna check this out ....ARSENIC AND THE USDA/FDA COVER-UP

by Lawrence Wilson, MD....

I know in the town where we live they built a subdivision on a former farm, backs onto wooded lot, people paid premium lot prices to have this forest in their back yard...the former farm was an apple orchard, they used arsenic as pesticide for the apples, now they've done soil testing and it's full of arsenic, especially leached into the forested area, the same forest people paid extra money to have in their backyard....so there you go!!! BTW, since I'm off chemo. for now I'm taking cimetidine daily.

i hammer the apples
i don't think cimetidine in my case
yes arsenic and pples, i have read about it before, thats me.
its a possible source.

given i don't detox well, i bio accumulate all the toxins and heavy metals i find, touch, smell and ingest, or breathe.

just consider the hair or the 6 hour urine challenge, or a functional liver test, bounce these off your onc or an integrative gp. thats what i have done and look at what i have found.

i am that toxic , if you turn the lights off i glow in the dark.

if you detox well, then cimetidine is good.

if you detox poorly like me,

then cimetidine reduces detox phase 1 by 10fold,

if you accumulate toxins, which in the end disable your immune system then whats the point of stopping the local immune suppression with cimetidine if your immune system is away on holidays.

i hope this makes sense.

in another way i will not take cimetidine again until i am chelated and i suspect my immune system is firing well. how to measure that is a separate post that i cannot full answer.

but i know the crude wbc counts we all really on , just don't cut the mustard.
that we need detailed cd4 breakdowns of number, function. basically i suspect a full workup of our immune system.

the value of all these tests is they take the guess work out of our care. alas i have asked all the doctors about this and until i write me own referral to an immunologist i will not get this confirmed, one day soon,.

but after the chelation and detox.

thanks for replying smokey, your reply brings out what understanding i have gathered and i have at least been able to express what i understand is right for me.

hugs,
pete

pete43lost_at_sea

pete43lost_at_sea said:

i hammer the apples
i don't think cimetidine in my case
yes arsenic and pples, i have read about it before, thats me.
its a possible source.

given i don't detox well, i bio accumulate all the toxins and heavy metals i find, touch, smell and ingest, or breathe.

just consider the hair or the 6 hour urine challenge, or a functional liver test, bounce these off your onc or an integrative gp. thats what i have done and look at what i have found.

i am that toxic , if you turn the lights off i glow in the dark.

if you detox well, then cimetidine is good.

if you detox poorly like me,

then cimetidine reduces detox phase 1 by 10fold,

if you accumulate toxins, which in the end disable your immune system then whats the point of stopping the local immune suppression with cimetidine if your immune system is away on holidays.

i hope this makes sense.

in another way i will not take cimetidine again until i am chelated and i suspect my immune system is firing well. how to measure that is a separate post that i cannot full answer.

but i know the crude wbc counts we all really on , just don't cut the mustard.
that we need detailed cd4 breakdowns of number, function. basically i suspect a full workup of our immune system.

the value of all these tests is they take the guess work out of our care. alas i have asked all the doctors about this and until i write me own referral to an immunologist i will not get this confirmed, one day soon,.

but after the chelation and detox.

thanks for replying smokey, your reply brings out what understanding i have gathered and i have at least been able to express what i understand is right for me.

hugs,
pete

the conference mp3 is on my blog
listen and learn and be healthy.

to me functional and integrative medicine is where science meets traditional wisdom.

hugs,
pete