Happy Halloween!

Hondo

Buckwirth said:

Did you read
The history she posted?

Dress up as Robin Hood, or a cowboy, and quit making the innocent evil. Next we know someone is going to start in about the war on Christmas...

Robin Hood, or a cowboy
That would be like an agnostic atheist going to church dress as a Priest. Let me know when you will be at Church dress as the Priest and I will be there dress as Robin Hood.

Innocent evil "that is a Oxymoron for sure".


Hondo

Buckwirth

Hondo said:

Robin Hood, or a cowboy
That would be like an agnostic atheist going to church dress as a Priest. Let me know when you will be at Church dress as the Priest and I will be there dress as Robin Hood.

Innocent evil "that is a Oxymoron for sure".


Hondo

Since I am a Reverend (officially)
and an atheist, it would be quite easy.

And the sentence was "making the innocent evil" not an oxymoron, just moronic.

laurettas

Hondo said:

Hi laurettas
To me things like this do matter, it may be just a opinion or a belief but I find everything I need in Gods Holy Word. There may be something good in the evil but why go there unless you can turn what is evil to do good for God. I don’t like Halloween that is my opinion because I don’t believe dressing up as something evil is good or can be, don’t make sense to me and I see no fun in it. So I can shut my doors and let it go by or I can try to do something good on an evil day. That is what we do by handing out tracks or scripture pamphlets that help people who may not know God to atlease know about him. I know it is all a matter of what you believe, for me the only truth there is, is in God and his Holy Word everything else apart from that is only a lie.

Thanks you for your comments, it is good to be able to have a dialogue with others on a subject with out the character assassination that some people have at others when they don’t agree with it.

Hondo

Hi Hondo
What is "God's Holy Word", Hondo? Are you limiting the meaning to just Scripture? God's Word is ultimately Christ, His Son, the Word Made Flesh. And Christ's body is the Church. God speaks to us in many ways. Through the Scriptures, through the oral Tradition that has been handed down from generation to generation and through the world which He created.

The day of Halloween is not evil. What some people do to celebrate the day can be evil but the day and the true meaning(see my earlier post) are not evil. Not all that is pagan is evil. The Greeks were pagan but they had profound insights into many things. I was so impressed with their wisdom when I finally read some of their literature.

Why does one need to think that all costumes are evil? My grandkids dressed up as a cow, TowMater from Cars, a pumpkin princess, a mermaid and Indiana Jones. Don't see a lot of evil in those characters. They are after the candy--well, and the girls love to dress up in beautiful clothes!

I agree that we should take all things and transform them into good. That is what incorporating some of the former pagan feast days into Christian life does. It replaces the wrong understanding with the truth that comes from God. If you hold yourself above and separate from others, you cannot convert them. You need to walk with them and come to know them and seek to understand them and share your love with them if you want them to be open to what you are trying to reveal to them. If we went to all other cultures and told them how sinful and evil and wrong their traditions are, we would not get far. We need to walk with people and slowly reveal to them the God who is love. And thank you, too, for the discussion. We have much to learn from each other. Peace to you.

laurettas

Buckwirth said:

Since I am a Reverend (officially)
and an atheist, it would be quite easy.

And the sentence was "making the innocent evil" not an oxymoron, just moronic.

Hmmm...
Interesting Blake. Care to expound on that--Reverend and atheist? I am intrigued!

mariam_11_09

Hondo said:

Hi laurettas
To me things like this do matter, it may be just a opinion or a belief but I find everything I need in Gods Holy Word. There may be something good in the evil but why go there unless you can turn what is evil to do good for God. I don’t like Halloween that is my opinion because I don’t believe dressing up as something evil is good or can be, don’t make sense to me and I see no fun in it. So I can shut my doors and let it go by or I can try to do something good on an evil day. That is what we do by handing out tracks or scripture pamphlets that help people who may not know God to atlease know about him. I know it is all a matter of what you believe, for me the only truth there is, is in God and his Holy Word everything else apart from that is only a lie.

Thanks you for your comments, it is good to be able to have a dialogue with others on a subject with out the character assassination that some people have at others when they don’t agree with it.

Hondo

Hondo, I am curious. Just

Hondo, I am curious. Just what makes Halloween so evil? What do you determine evil to be? Perhaps you can explain to us.

Hondo

laurettas said:

Hi Hondo
What is "God's Holy Word", Hondo? Are you limiting the meaning to just Scripture? God's Word is ultimately Christ, His Son, the Word Made Flesh. And Christ's body is the Church. God speaks to us in many ways. Through the Scriptures, through the oral Tradition that has been handed down from generation to generation and through the world which He created.

The day of Halloween is not evil. What some people do to celebrate the day can be evil but the day and the true meaning(see my earlier post) are not evil. Not all that is pagan is evil. The Greeks were pagan but they had profound insights into many things. I was so impressed with their wisdom when I finally read some of their literature.

Why does one need to think that all costumes are evil? My grandkids dressed up as a cow, TowMater from Cars, a pumpkin princess, a mermaid and Indiana Jones. Don't see a lot of evil in those characters. They are after the candy--well, and the girls love to dress up in beautiful clothes!

I agree that we should take all things and transform them into good. That is what incorporating some of the former pagan feast days into Christian life does. It replaces the wrong understanding with the truth that comes from God. If you hold yourself above and separate from others, you cannot convert them. You need to walk with them and come to know them and seek to understand them and share your love with them if you want them to be open to what you are trying to reveal to them. If we went to all other cultures and told them how sinful and evil and wrong their traditions are, we would not get far. We need to walk with people and slowly reveal to them the God who is love. And thank you, too, for the discussion. We have much to learn from each other. Peace to you.

Hi laurettas

Yes to me God word is the Bible only, there are good books out there and sometime special people who have been giving the gift of prophecies and are lead by his Hold Spirit. But even thing they teach and say needs to be checked by the Bible as it says in Isaiah 8:20 there is no light in it if it does not agree with scripture.

There are some Tradition that are good I have no problems with that, but if they go against what the Bible teaches then there is some wrong with the Tradition; again Isaiah 8:20.

On Costumes I don’t believe I say anything about them being Evil. I dress up as a Roman solder sometimes during a Christmas play if I am ask to be part of it. What I did say was I would not dress up any of my children as a devil.

You are correct in saying we need to meet people where they are and not holding ourselves above them, that is what Christ did, he ate with the publicans and sinners and not with the Religious leaders of the day. He even said Lk:5:32: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. I don’t believe by dressing ourselves up as a devil will bring anyone to Christ, but it might by handing out things that will tell them about how much God loves them.

I am a lot of friends who are all different types of religions, I don’t force what I believe on them and they don’t force what they believe on me. But we do understand each other and except each other for what and who we are.

Thanks
Hondo

Hondo

mariam_11_09 said:

Hondo, I am curious. Just

Hondo, I am curious. Just what makes Halloween so evil? What do you determine evil to be? Perhaps you can explain to us.

Hi Mariam

I would be glad to just need some time as I have a plat full at the time. Give me a few days .

Thanks
Hondo