New Cigarette warnings push the envelope

ratface

What dose everyone think of the new graphic warnings. Picture of diseased lungs, Person holding a cigarette up to hole in neck and smoking? I'm a bit surprised our government took such a pro-active stance after all the years of the lame warnings on the box. This will get your attention and I think it's a leading step in the right direction.

Skiffin16

Seen Them B4
I'm sure you're close in age to me, and I've seen them all before in one form or another. I remember them showing and displaying at schools, dissected healthy lungs. then comparing diseased black clogged up lungs from smokers of many years....that had to be over forty years ago.

Though I'm for anythng that makes you aware even if that throws it out in your face that tobacco use can and does lead to terrible diseases.

Statistics do support that through education, or advertising that tobacco use has declined over the years.

~JG

Pam M

I'm Digging Them
Reminds me of the "this is what your genitalia may look like if you have an STD" part of the sex-ed movie in middle school. I don't really recall the graphic, but I remember that I remembered it for quite some time.

So - when do we get the warnings on the fast food french fry packets? UV lights in nail salons? Expensive Irish whiskey? KFC chicken sammiches? (just saw some contain a known carcinogen - huh?)

Would these warnings be on packets of chewing tobacco or "dip", too?

soccerfreaks

Pam M said:

I'm Digging Them
Reminds me of the "this is what your genitalia may look like if you have an STD" part of the sex-ed movie in middle school. I don't really recall the graphic, but I remember that I remembered it for quite some time.

So - when do we get the warnings on the fast food french fry packets? UV lights in nail salons? Expensive Irish whiskey? KFC chicken sammiches? (just saw some contain a known carcinogen - huh?)

Would these warnings be on packets of chewing tobacco or "dip", too?

Yeah
I'm not averse to the new warnings. After all, I'm the mad man who used to run out to the teens walking down the street smoking, lifting my shirt to show them my PEG tube .

But there is a high degree of hypocrisy here, isn't there? Why are we subsidizing tobacco farms at the same time we are requiring these labels? We need to get our act together in that regard.

And when, as I think you are suggesting, Pam, does it stop? Are we going to reach the point where the government dictates all of our desires, all of our diets?

Take care,

Joe

ratface

soccerfreaks said:

Yeah
I'm not averse to the new warnings. After all, I'm the mad man who used to run out to the teens walking down the street smoking, lifting my shirt to show them my PEG tube .

But there is a high degree of hypocrisy here, isn't there? Why are we subsidizing tobacco farms at the same time we are requiring these labels? We need to get our act together in that regard.

And when, as I think you are suggesting, Pam, does it stop? Are we going to reach the point where the government dictates all of our desires, all of our diets?

Take care,

Joe

I have to resist showing my scars to
I understand the urge to tell people to stop smoking. So far I have resisted. The worst were the oncology nurses at the treatment center. So if oncology nurses are still smoking will we ever make an impact. I think the new warnings will help. Think about it, these are going to be in peoples faces, laying on the kithcen table and in street garbage. I'm disappointed though. I thought the United States was taking a leading role but this is far from the truth. There are 8-9 graphic pictures coming out and we are the 31st country to adopt this tactic. Has anyone been to a country that already has them?

sue5749

ratface said:

I have to resist showing my scars to
I understand the urge to tell people to stop smoking. So far I have resisted. The worst were the oncology nurses at the treatment center. So if oncology nurses are still smoking will we ever make an impact. I think the new warnings will help. Think about it, these are going to be in peoples faces, laying on the kithcen table and in street garbage. I'm disappointed though. I thought the United States was taking a leading role but this is far from the truth. There are 8-9 graphic pictures coming out and we are the 31st country to adopt this tactic. Has anyone been to a country that already has them?

smoking labels
Hi, as for the smoking labels on the cigarette packages, I really don't think it is going to help the young people today. My two grandsons who are 17 and 15 do not smoke, as I know of. There parents smoke. I ask them if any of there friends smoke and they said "yes" with all the warning labels and the known fact that smoking kills they still chose to buy a pack of smokes for $5.00 where do they get the money? Once you start the habit it is SO hard to get off of it!! My husband today may not live 2 years because he smoked. And he said to me the other day " I really did not think I would get cancer because I started later in life at 30 years old" He said " I thought you would get cancer before me because you started at a much younger age" A person never knows. But since I quit 9 years ago I hate to smell, I can't go back and undo what I have done, I just pray for the younger people to never put one in your mouth, Not even the fake one out nowadays. Don't want anything to remind me of those things and the harm they can cause, not for them but for the people in their lives and depend on them and love them. I told my sister one day I was driving and she said open your window the smoke is killing me! I said well you must feel sorry for me cause I will die before you! She said " I don't feel sorry for you"! Stop smoking!

palmyrafan

Packaging
Reminds me of the commercial years ago (and I am "dating" myself here) where they showed your brain and then fried eggs and said, "this is your brain. This is your brain on drugs. Any questions?"

My only question is if the ad was working, why'd they pull it? New advertisers or bosses?

I also think that it is hypocrisy by the government. If they thought the cigarettes were so dangerous, why not make them illegal? Why allow sales of the cigs to continue?

No, I think it is another ploy by the government to say "hey, at least we are trying here".

sweetblood22

palmyrafan said:

Packaging
Reminds me of the commercial years ago (and I am "dating" myself here) where they showed your brain and then fried eggs and said, "this is your brain. This is your brain on drugs. Any questions?"

My only question is if the ad was working, why'd they pull it? New advertisers or bosses?

I also think that it is hypocrisy by the government. If they thought the cigarettes were so dangerous, why not make them illegal? Why allow sales of the cigs to continue?

No, I think it is another ploy by the government to say "hey, at least we are trying here".

I think it's a good idea, tho -
I don't know if it's going to do any good. I'm an ex smoker too.

I totally showed my scars and my peg tube to the girls who used to work for me, and who were smoking. One quit for a year, but I found out that she recently started to smoke again. It may be time for another visit.

CajunEagle

sweetblood22 said:

I think it's a good idea, tho -
I don't know if it's going to do any good. I'm an ex smoker too.

I totally showed my scars and my peg tube to the girls who used to work for me, and who were smoking. One quit for a year, but I found out that she recently started to smoke again. It may be time for another visit.

Cost factor
When I was recently in Honolulu, couldn't help but take a picture on my cell of what was on the display rack behind the counter of a convenience store. Pack of regular Marlboro.....$10.39 a pack. Yea, I realize the costs of items is all relative, but good grief !

Larry

Hondo

Hi Ratface

I am not too sure if it will do anything to the smoker who been smoking for 20 years or so. But if it helps stop the newbes from ever lighting up they I guess it will do it job.

Something else I do wonder about is all those taxes on Cigarettes; if people stop smoking and the government stops getting taxes on Cigarettes do you think our taxes will go up. Just a question?

Hondo

Skiffin16

Smokers Who Are Friends & Co-Workers
Like Joe and Sweet and others here....

When I see my friends and co-workers smoking (the ones that know I had throat cancer and what I went trhough for treatment), I always just say..."you know that stuff will give you throat cancer"

~John

rozaroo

Skiffin16 said:

Smokers Who Are Friends & Co-Workers
Like Joe and Sweet and others here....

When I see my friends and co-workers smoking (the ones that know I had throat cancer and what I went trhough for treatment), I always just say..."you know that stuff will give you throat cancer"

~John

Smoking!
The friend's & family that smoke just don't get it or choose not too. They complain about the price of thing's but the cigarettes still come first. Or they say you never smoked a day in your life & you still got head & neck cancer. So I am done trying. They will find a way as it comes first & is an addiction.

ratface

Skiffin16 said:

Smokers Who Are Friends & Co-Workers
Like Joe and Sweet and others here....

When I see my friends and co-workers smoking (the ones that know I had throat cancer and what I went trhough for treatment), I always just say..."you know that stuff will give you throat cancer"

~John

400,000
The tobacco industry kills 400,000 thousand of it's customers every year. Just stop for one moment and think about that. What if McDonald's killed 400,000 per year. It then is able to recruit and replace that 400,000 every year with little effort and without television. No more Marlboro man. I think sales will diminish to some extent and the big companies have already hedged their bets by buying into other industries. Smoking is also very big in Asian and Latin markets. Personally I see a new taxable crop emerging in the United States in the form of marijuana but that is a whole different enchilada. Overall cancer deaths are down in the United States but the incidence of our cancer is rising which again is a horse of a different color with the HPV variable. Sin taxes will always be here as we keep finding new ways to sin. Perhaps getting older isn't so bad. When you think about it this the smoking, drinking, and carousing derived cancer and we are the ultimate sinners. Sure would make for an interesting logo. Forget the boring pink ribbons and yellow arm bands as we would need more canvas for our depictions. Maybe they will tax us more?

buzz99

Smoking
Buzz never smoked and yet he has cancer (base of tongue). Our son smokes and has seen his dad go through hell during treatment yet he still smokes. It breaks our hearts. Karen