Panic/anxiety crisis how to deal with?
l m having lorazepam ( just 1/2 pill of 1 mg) after lunch but no way! then lm prescribed to have 1 mg before sleep, and it works but just for sleeping.
My doc has prescribed me also Cipralex (escitalopram) to avoid any depression but I'm not having it as I'm not depress at all!
just very very very nervous , and anxious !
Do you take anything for this kind of crisis?actually any of you got this kinda crisis?
Have fun !
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Anxiety?
I found a good bottle of aged Bourbon greatly decreases anxiety levels.
It's dose-dependent, however, and one size doesn't fit all.
The decrease and/or imbalance of serotonin and melatonin occurs
due to the overload of the liver and kidneys; the two organs that
produce those chemicals. An imbalance of either causes many
symptoms, including depression, anxiety, panic attacks, irregular
heart rhythm, muscle aches, etc.
Drugs weigh the heaviest on the liver, since it's the liver that is
responsible for cleaning the toxins from the blood. Too many,
or "too harsh" drugs, and the liver suffers, producing less of
what it should be normally producing.
(Likewise, alcohol weighs very heavily on those organs, as well)
Those are the reasons "why" it happens.
Taking more meds in an effort to "cure" it, adds to the load
of toxins that must be removed... Vicious cycle, ehh?
Get your liver healthy, and you'll do better!
John0 -
yeah John but very dificult to deal withJohn23 said:Anxiety?
I found a good bottle of aged Bourbon greatly decreases anxiety levels.
It's dose-dependent, however, and one size doesn't fit all.
The decrease and/or imbalance of serotonin and melatonin occurs
due to the overload of the liver and kidneys; the two organs that
produce those chemicals. An imbalance of either causes many
symptoms, including depression, anxiety, panic attacks, irregular
heart rhythm, muscle aches, etc.
Drugs weigh the heaviest on the liver, since it's the liver that is
responsible for cleaning the toxins from the blood. Too many,
or "too harsh" drugs, and the liver suffers, producing less of
what it should be normally producing.
(Likewise, alcohol weighs very heavily on those organs, as well)
Those are the reasons "why" it happens.
Taking more meds in an effort to "cure" it, adds to the load
of toxins that must be removed... Vicious cycle, ehh?
Get your liver healthy, and you'll do better!
John
unless you are a Tibetan Monk or Kung Fu ! Dont you think ?.
Haha!
Best to you and tks you are a book of wisdom! l,d like to speak long with you about TCM!
lm realy interested!0 -
One day, or one hour, or one minute at a time....
I'm no hero, but didn't like the wierd effects of pills...so I didn't take any.
If I was sad, I would ask myself why. And then work it thru, justifying it, but go on. Same if I was anxious, for that matter...
My afternoons were spent watching something to make me laugh. I was blessed with MASH reruns each day. I also watched Mel Brooks movies...Young Frankenstein was my fav. Also Fawlty Towers, a British comedy that is no longer on TV, but I have DVDs...
I allowed myself to take it easy...not a simple thing for someone who had, all of her life, been super busy...many afternoons I took a little siesta...it was great!
Hang in there, my dear...as the old saying goes: 'Whatever gets you thru the night'...which I modified to: 'Whatever gets you thru the FIGHT!'
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Fawlty towers, my name is Manuel lm from Barcelona!KathiM said:One day, or one hour, or one minute at a time....
I'm no hero, but didn't like the wierd effects of pills...so I didn't take any.
If I was sad, I would ask myself why. And then work it thru, justifying it, but go on. Same if I was anxious, for that matter...
My afternoons were spent watching something to make me laugh. I was blessed with MASH reruns each day. I also watched Mel Brooks movies...Young Frankenstein was my fav. Also Fawlty Towers, a British comedy that is no longer on TV, but I have DVDs...
I allowed myself to take it easy...not a simple thing for someone who had, all of her life, been super busy...many afternoons I took a little siesta...it was great!
Hang in there, my dear...as the old saying goes: 'Whatever gets you thru the night'...which I modified to: 'Whatever gets you thru the FIGHT!'
Hugs, Kathi
LOL!.
Unfortunadely l have lost my capacity to watch TV!. l m not sad but worried and nervous very nervous, well l will do my best but this is not healthy neither ,as you say we are not heroes!
Enjoy fresh cow milk! lol!0 -
For Anxietypepebcn said:Fawlty towers, my name is Manuel lm from Barcelona!
LOL!.
Unfortunadely l have lost my capacity to watch TV!. l m not sad but worried and nervous very nervous, well l will do my best but this is not healthy neither ,as you say we are not heroes!
Enjoy fresh cow milk! lol!
Try XANAX if they have that in your country. It is used to treat for high anxiety and just might be the temporary ticket for you.
I'm like Kathi, I just use my mind as much as I can and get off any medication as soon as I can. The brain is a very powerful tool all by itself, but if you need a little help, ask your doctor about Xanax.
-Craig0 -
xanax
I am going thru your same feelings, so told onc, they gave me xanax. Hate to take meds, so I keep the bottle in case, still haven't taken one, but just knowing they are there has helped me.....when I start to go down, I get them out, but because I hate meds don't take one. So far, it has just helped me knowing I have them. This may sound stupid, but whatever......Pat0 -
Xanax is probally the brand ,do you know the nameSundanceh said:For Anxiety
Try XANAX if they have that in your country. It is used to treat for high anxiety and just might be the temporary ticket for you.
I'm like Kathi, I just use my mind as much as I can and get off any medication as soon as I can. The brain is a very powerful tool all by itself, but if you need a little help, ask your doctor about Xanax.
-Craig
for the active ingredient ?
tks Craig!0 -
Panic, Anxiety, Grief and other Emotions
Pepe,
I am by no means an expert on what you are feeling so I can only speak of my own experience. I found for myself, most of the time (get those qualifiers in there since there are exclusions to every rule) I just have to let myself feel. Not that I like to but, I must. I've found that if I'm feeling sad, I have to acknowledge that I feel sad and just sit with it for a bit. Same thing for any of my "feelings". So say maybe today I'm feeling overwhelmed ... I say OK so I'm feeling overwhelmed ... this to shall pass. Of course if there is a situation that I have control over which will change my feelings, I'll make a plan (always help to feel empowered) and implement it. But, I noticed that when I tried to fix feelings (that are outside of my control), make them go away or run from them, they just became more powerful.
It's like saying, don't think about purple polka dots. What do you do? Think about purple polka dots! Anyway ... that's my 2 cents (and we all know what that buys today). I hope you feel better soon and find some relief. ... Lori0 -
Pepepepebcn said:Xanax is probally the brand ,do you know the name
for the active ingredient ?
tks Craig!
Pepe
It is also goes under the generic name of "Alprazolam".
These look to be the active ingredients:
8-chloro-1-methyl-6-phenyl-4H-
[1,2,4]triazolo[4,3-a][1,4]benzodiazepine
But, I'm not a scientist, so I could not break down the diagram.
Bottom line, it is used for anxiety and just be moderate and take it as needed and follow the dosing instructions.
See you
Craig0 -
Xanax does it affects your dayly routine ?Sundanceh said:For Anxiety
Try XANAX if they have that in your country. It is used to treat for high anxiety and just might be the temporary ticket for you.
I'm like Kathi, I just use my mind as much as I can and get off any medication as soon as I can. The brain is a very powerful tool all by itself, but if you need a little help, ask your doctor about Xanax.
-Craig
l mean do you get slept , or so ? and most important Does liver accepts it ?
thanks!0 -
Great !Lori-S said:Panic, Anxiety, Grief and other Emotions
Pepe,
I am by no means an expert on what you are feeling so I can only speak of my own experience. I found for myself, most of the time (get those qualifiers in there since there are exclusions to every rule) I just have to let myself feel. Not that I like to but, I must. I've found that if I'm feeling sad, I have to acknowledge that I feel sad and just sit with it for a bit. Same thing for any of my "feelings". So say maybe today I'm feeling overwhelmed ... I say OK so I'm feeling overwhelmed ... this to shall pass. Of course if there is a situation that I have control over which will change my feelings, I'll make a plan (always help to feel empowered) and implement it. But, I noticed that when I tried to fix feelings (that are outside of my control), make them go away or run from them, they just became more powerful.
It's like saying, don't think about purple polka dots. What do you do? Think about purple polka dots! Anyway ... that's my 2 cents (and we all know what that buys today). I hope you feel better soon and find some relief. ... Lori
Great !
Now I can't stop picturing stupid purple polka dots.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
AARRAAGGHH !!!0 -
Panic / anxiety attacks
Hi "Pepe"
–
I really sympathize with your anxiety attacks. Years ago I suffered from panic attacks – it was horrible – I felt like I was dying. I went on Paxil plus Xanax (alprazolam) for breakthrough, and it really helped. After a couple of years I weaned off the Paxil, but still keep a bit of Xanax around to quell a panic attack. It actually works very quickly and the effects don’t last long – just long enough to shut down the panic attack. (Also, just having some around tends to prevent an attack, because you know you can take it if necessary.) Don’t be so scared about SSRI antidepressants (such as escitalopram – Lexapro in the US) – they are indicated for both anxiety and depression and I don’t think you should dismiss trying it for anxiety alone.
John – I love your posts. However, serotonin is not manufactured in the liver. Most of it (90+%) is manufactured in the duodenum (the first part of the small intestine). It has an effect on bone mass and probably also helps regulate digestion. That serotonin never makes it to the brain because of the blood-brain barrier (which protects the brain from foreign chemicals).
The remaining serotonin is produced by the neurons in the brain. SSRI durgs (like Prozac, Celexa, Lexapro) work by preserving the serotonin produced by the brain – i.e. inhibiting its “uptake”.
Serotonin is eventually metabolized by the liver (as are most substances) and then excreted by the kidneys. Meanwhile, I’m all for a healthy liver, but I just thought I’d mention this.0 -
Most anxiety meds, like Xanax or Ativan,Betsydoglover said:Panic / anxiety attacks
Hi "Pepe"
–
I really sympathize with your anxiety attacks. Years ago I suffered from panic attacks – it was horrible – I felt like I was dying. I went on Paxil plus Xanax (alprazolam) for breakthrough, and it really helped. After a couple of years I weaned off the Paxil, but still keep a bit of Xanax around to quell a panic attack. It actually works very quickly and the effects don’t last long – just long enough to shut down the panic attack. (Also, just having some around tends to prevent an attack, because you know you can take it if necessary.) Don’t be so scared about SSRI antidepressants (such as escitalopram – Lexapro in the US) – they are indicated for both anxiety and depression and I don’t think you should dismiss trying it for anxiety alone.
John – I love your posts. However, serotonin is not manufactured in the liver. Most of it (90+%) is manufactured in the duodenum (the first part of the small intestine). It has an effect on bone mass and probably also helps regulate digestion. That serotonin never makes it to the brain because of the blood-brain barrier (which protects the brain from foreign chemicals).
The remaining serotonin is produced by the neurons in the brain. SSRI durgs (like Prozac, Celexa, Lexapro) work by preserving the serotonin produced by the brain – i.e. inhibiting its “uptake”.
Serotonin is eventually metabolized by the liver (as are most substances) and then excreted by the kidneys. Meanwhile, I’m all for a healthy liver, but I just thought I’d mention this.
may have a negative effect upon one's liver, tho the good they do, if needed, outweighs the bad, in most instances......steve0 -
Betsy -Betsydoglover said:Panic / anxiety attacks
Hi "Pepe"
–
I really sympathize with your anxiety attacks. Years ago I suffered from panic attacks – it was horrible – I felt like I was dying. I went on Paxil plus Xanax (alprazolam) for breakthrough, and it really helped. After a couple of years I weaned off the Paxil, but still keep a bit of Xanax around to quell a panic attack. It actually works very quickly and the effects don’t last long – just long enough to shut down the panic attack. (Also, just having some around tends to prevent an attack, because you know you can take it if necessary.) Don’t be so scared about SSRI antidepressants (such as escitalopram – Lexapro in the US) – they are indicated for both anxiety and depression and I don’t think you should dismiss trying it for anxiety alone.
John – I love your posts. However, serotonin is not manufactured in the liver. Most of it (90+%) is manufactured in the duodenum (the first part of the small intestine). It has an effect on bone mass and probably also helps regulate digestion. That serotonin never makes it to the brain because of the blood-brain barrier (which protects the brain from foreign chemicals).
The remaining serotonin is produced by the neurons in the brain. SSRI durgs (like Prozac, Celexa, Lexapro) work by preserving the serotonin produced by the brain – i.e. inhibiting its “uptake”.
Serotonin is eventually metabolized by the liver (as are most substances) and then excreted by the kidneys. Meanwhile, I’m all for a healthy liver, but I just thought I’d mention this.
ooopsa' doopsa' ?
I mis-spoke, or mis-typed as it may be....
Re:
"Serotonin or 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) is known to regulate
several key aspects of liver biology and these functions include
hepatic blood flow, innervation and wound healing. Given the
importance of these functions it is surprising that relatively
little time has been dedicated to studying the precise function
and mechanisms of serotonin within the liver. Here we describe
what is known about serotonin and the liver and those receptor
types that mediate the observed effects with an aim to stimulating
new interest in the field of serotonin and liver biology."
The rest is here
(heavy reading)
I had tossed the serotonin into the mix, due to the imbalance of
serotonin and melotonin that seems to occur when the liver is under stress.
Where I had read that the liver "helps regulate the balance of", I transposed
it to "produces"...... Dumb herbal-brain moment.
You are exactly right, it is produced in the noggin, and gastro tract.
Thank you for catching that. I can't remember when I started misquoting
that, but it's been awhile.
Mea Culpa,
John0
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