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sheri22

I just need to know can stress make CEA level go from 25 to 179 in 3 weeks

Buzzard

per Google............
What conditions can cause an elevated CEA?

Both benign and malignant (harmless and cancerous) conditions can increase the CEA level. The most frequent cancer which causes an increased CEA is cancer of the colon and rectum. Others include cancers of the pancreas, stomach, breast, lung, and certain types of thyroid and ovarian cancer. Benign conditions which can elevate CEA include smoking, infections, inflammatory bowel disease, pancreatitis, cirrhosis of the liver, and some benign tumors in the same organs in which an elevated CEA indicates cancer. Chemotherapy and radiation therapy can cause a temporary rise in CEA due to the death of tumor cells and release of CEA into the blood stream. Benign disease does not usually cause an increase above 10 ng/ml.

sheri22

Buzzard said:

per Google............
What conditions can cause an elevated CEA?

Both benign and malignant (harmless and cancerous) conditions can increase the CEA level. The most frequent cancer which causes an increased CEA is cancer of the colon and rectum. Others include cancers of the pancreas, stomach, breast, lung, and certain types of thyroid and ovarian cancer. Benign conditions which can elevate CEA include smoking, infections, inflammatory bowel disease, pancreatitis, cirrhosis of the liver, and some benign tumors in the same organs in which an elevated CEA indicates cancer. Chemotherapy and radiation therapy can cause a temporary rise in CEA due to the death of tumor cells and release of CEA into the blood stream. Benign disease does not usually cause an increase above 10 ng/ml.

Thanks for imput
So in other words it has growen again right I would rather know now than Thurs cause I have to work Friday AND Want to deal with it now thanks again

Sheri22

Buzzard

sheri22 said:

Thanks for imput
So in other words it has growen again right I would rather know now than Thurs cause I have to work Friday AND Want to deal with it now thanks again

Sheri22

Sherri....Thats not what I read in it...
and certainly was not intended to come out like that. I simply took that piece of literature and copied it from a medical site and pasted it into a post. It shows there are more reasons to increase from benign reasons than other. So there are no "in other words", I never said it was growing. On the contrary, I seem to take out of it that there are several reasons why it would raise and still be benign....

"Benign conditions which can elevate CEA include smoking, infections, inflammatory bowel disease, pancreatitis, cirrhosis of the liver, and some benign tumors in the same organs in which an elevated CEA indicates cancer. Chemotherapy and radiation therapy can cause a temporary rise in CEA due to the death of tumor cells and release of CEA into the blood stream."

That is what was intended for you to focus on...it all being benign

John23

sheri22 said:

Thanks for imput
So in other words it has growen again right I would rather know now than Thurs cause I have to work Friday AND Want to deal with it now thanks again

Sheri22

Yo, Sheri22 - -

Re:
"I would rather know now than Thurs cause I have to work Friday AND Want to deal with it now"

Yeah, you got the right idea! Worry about all the things that "could happen" on a day
well in advance of the day you can't afford to use to worry about them!

I don't know why the hell I never thought of that! I always end up worrying
about stuff for weeks and weeks prior to the day I figure it'll happen, having
wasted weeks and weeks when it doesn't happen. Man, nothing pees me off
as much as that!

Seriously kid... try thinking about the plus side of things until you're forced
to get concerned about some real thing that's staring you in the face.

CEA isn't a common denominator, or an indication for anything specific on
it's own, it's simply another marker; a symptom, that has to be evaluated
based on all accompanying markers/symptoms. No physician can make a
justified diagnosis based on one single marker (Well....... I guess if your head
arrived at the office in a bag, apart from your body.... ya'know, even -I- could
diagnose that problem)....

If you had a runny nose, would you immediately assume you have sinus tumors?

Relax, tell your boss you want that Friday off (that proceeds the doctor's visit),
and make plans for a nice three-day weekend to enjoy life.

DO IT.


John.

sheri22

John23 said:

Yo, Sheri22 - -

Re:
"I would rather know now than Thurs cause I have to work Friday AND Want to deal with it now"

Yeah, you got the right idea! Worry about all the things that "could happen" on a day
well in advance of the day you can't afford to use to worry about them!

I don't know why the hell I never thought of that! I always end up worrying
about stuff for weeks and weeks prior to the day I figure it'll happen, having
wasted weeks and weeks when it doesn't happen. Man, nothing pees me off
as much as that!

Seriously kid... try thinking about the plus side of things until you're forced
to get concerned about some real thing that's staring you in the face.

CEA isn't a common denominator, or an indication for anything specific on
it's own, it's simply another marker; a symptom, that has to be evaluated
based on all accompanying markers/symptoms. No physician can make a
justified diagnosis based on one single marker (Well....... I guess if your head
arrived at the office in a bag, apart from your body.... ya'know, even -I- could
diagnose that problem)....

If you had a runny nose, would you immediately assume you have sinus tumors?

Relax, tell your boss you want that Friday off (that proceeds the doctor's visit),
and make plans for a nice three-day weekend to enjoy life.

DO IT.


John.

really just want to face it now not worryt
John it isnt so much that I am worried I just want to deal with it I have a habit of being too optomistic than when I get the bad news it really hits me in the face now that I have faced it when I go to DRS tommorrow instead of being upset on the bad news I can concentrate on what we are going to do now and make decisions anyways I love your posts
Sheri22

sheri22

Buzzard said:

Sherri....Thats not what I read in it...
and certainly was not intended to come out like that. I simply took that piece of literature and copied it from a medical site and pasted it into a post. It shows there are more reasons to increase from benign reasons than other. So there are no "in other words", I never said it was growing. On the contrary, I seem to take out of it that there are several reasons why it would raise and still be benign....

"Benign conditions which can elevate CEA include smoking, infections, inflammatory bowel disease, pancreatitis, cirrhosis of the liver, and some benign tumors in the same organs in which an elevated CEA indicates cancer. Chemotherapy and radiation therapy can cause a temporary rise in CEA due to the death of tumor cells and release of CEA into the blood stream."

That is what was intended for you to focus on...it all being benign

YOU DID NOT BRING ME DOWN
Buzzard you always give good info I know that is not what you meant I was stating how I seen it I am just facing reality now befor I see the DR tommorrow not worried this way I wont be so focused on the bad news ya know but I can focus on what the next plan is and make better descions with the DR I tend to be too optomistic then when I get bad news it really slaps me in the face this way I am ready kinda like getting a jump on the game plan if you know what I mean thanks for the info and sorry if you thought it brought me down you didnt say anything wrong.

Sheri22

AnnaLeigh

sheri22 said:

really just want to face it now not worryt
John it isnt so much that I am worried I just want to deal with it I have a habit of being too optomistic than when I get the bad news it really hits me in the face now that I have faced it when I go to DRS tommorrow instead of being upset on the bad news I can concentrate on what we are going to do now and make decisions anyways I love your posts
Sheri22

We have felt that same roller coaster ride
There is such a fine line between wanting to be optimistic, positive, strong and determined enough to deal with all of the changes that occur during treatment without being slapped in the face or punched in the gut when the news from our doctors does not fit what we have held in our hearts and minds about what will happen next.

Loving and well-intentioned family members or friends will also try to be a "cheerleading squad" and put forth many encouraging words in their effort to contribute to our mental well being. But this can set us up for being TOO optimistic. That's when any news to the contrary knocks us to our knees.

Our magnificent oncologist put it this way - "Let's just hold a great deal of Hopefulness for the outcome - measured with a large dose of Reality - in order to accept that there will be changes. We will deal with the changes one-at-a-time and see where that takes us next."

What a great relief and way of looking at uncertainty.

sheri22

AnnaLeigh said:

We have felt that same roller coaster ride
There is such a fine line between wanting to be optimistic, positive, strong and determined enough to deal with all of the changes that occur during treatment without being slapped in the face or punched in the gut when the news from our doctors does not fit what we have held in our hearts and minds about what will happen next.

Loving and well-intentioned family members or friends will also try to be a "cheerleading squad" and put forth many encouraging words in their effort to contribute to our mental well being. But this can set us up for being TOO optimistic. That's when any news to the contrary knocks us to our knees.

Our magnificent oncologist put it this way - "Let's just hold a great deal of Hopefulness for the outcome - measured with a large dose of Reality - in order to accept that there will be changes. We will deal with the changes one-at-a-time and see where that takes us next."

What a great relief and way of looking at uncertainty.

AND WHAT A RIDE HUH
I did get my results today, the nurse at DRS office is awsome, results werent good but I was prepared now the next step is cleveland clinic the mass did show significant groweth, I am still being optomistic and realistic though This network is such a blessing I read your stories on here and it keeps me strong So when my DR gets me in up there I will be ready to fight I love what your onc said too makes a lot of sense take care

Sheri22