Modified Citrus Pectin

dianetavegia

Louann
Here's that info! Note that both Scouty, Jill, Susan H. and 2bhealed took or take this. Catherine and I started it just recently.

C Dixon

dianetavegia said:

Louann
Here's that info! Note that both Scouty, Jill, Susan H. and 2bhealed took or take this. Catherine and I started it just recently.

Yep,
took mine this morning and going to take another after I finish my strawberries!

Catherine

Holdtight

2bhealed said:

MCP
Hi Diane,

My Naturopathic doctor had me on this powder and explained how it worked like this:

The MCP is like spraying the invisible man (being the cancer cells) so that the body can see him (the cancer cells) and kill him off. The MCP adheres to the cancer cells and "exposes" them and the body can then pop them off. I'm probably not doing her explanation justice but it has been 8 1/2 years.....I don't remember the exact words.

I used the powder form and put in in my juice. If you need a distributor I can give you the name of my Naturopath. It was fractionated pectin.

It's a shame that this information is not commonly out there and that all cancer patients aren't put on this stuff. But that's why I am continuously encouraging folks to find a good Naturopathic doctor who is knowledgeable in cancer/nutrition.

peace, emily

Hi! Emily
I am interested in finding out more - can you give me the name of the distributor you know. Thanks.

SueRelays

C Dixon said:

Yep,
took mine this morning and going to take another after I finish my strawberries!

Catherine

My dietician recommend MCP
My dietician recommend MCP to me prior to my liver resection. i was taking it 3x a day, but just one now. It is a pretty HOT commodity....as many places were out of it!!! I paid $110.00 for it, so THANKS Diane for sharing!!!

papajedi

jillpls said:

more on subject
I too am taking MCP in pill form. I had a very bad chemo cycle at Christmas and landed in the er. so When I got out, I went to a homopathic dr and she said to take the MCP as well as theribotic powder. I am doing great now. My last Ct (2 wks ago) showed the ascities in the gut area was almost all gone and no new growth anywhere. With Gods blessing and the MCP I'll keep staying stong!
Jill

MCP
Can you tell me where you buy your MCP ? How much do you take ?

dianetavegia

papajedi said:

MCP
Can you tell me where you buy your MCP ? How much do you take ?

Robert
I bought mine off Amazon.com and got the NOW brand which is one my friend recommended (she's got several majors in health, nutrition, etc). It was cheaper there than thru a vitamin store online.

I'm taking 1 tsp a day in applesauce, which is the amount recommended for maintenance. I don't have mets and my CEA is stable and within normal limits. Since your CEA is rising and you have some tiny bone mets, I would suggest you take the dosage recommended for those with active disease, which is 3 tsp a day, one tsp at a time.

It's not cheap! I paid over $55.00 and it will last me 3 months. If you take full dosage, it will last you one month.

Be sure to get the powder and be sure it's modified pectin!

papajedi

dianetavegia said:

Robert
I bought mine off Amazon.com and got the NOW brand which is one my friend recommended (she's got several majors in health, nutrition, etc). It was cheaper there than thru a vitamin store online.

I'm taking 1 tsp a day in applesauce, which is the amount recommended for maintenance. I don't have mets and my CEA is stable and within normal limits. Since your CEA is rising and you have some tiny bone mets, I would suggest you take the dosage recommended for those with active disease, which is 3 tsp a day, one tsp at a time.

It's not cheap! I paid over $55.00 and it will last me 3 months. If you take full dosage, it will last you one month.

Be sure to get the powder and be sure it's modified pectin!

Here's the rub...
All my scans have been increasingly better to exceptional. The last one showed all bone mets gone except a tiny 1cm one, nothing lights up at all. My onc is puzzled, I've had isues with inflamations and now have arthritis in my shoulders so think that's what's causing the spike. Just had a scan apr 19th that was excellent........so what to think.

Unknown

SueRelays said:

My dietician recommend MCP
My dietician recommend MCP to me prior to my liver resection. i was taking it 3x a day, but just one now. It is a pretty HOT commodity....as many places were out of it!!! I paid $110.00 for it, so THANKS Diane for sharing!!!

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lisa42

questions
Thanks, Diane, for posting this. I believe you posted it a while back also, and I had forgotten about it. One thing I'm wondering... if it coats the cancer cells and doesn't allow them to stick together, does that coating act as a barrier to the chemotherapy I'm on? I have a feeling I won't get an accurate answer from my onc, as he's leary of supplements, so i wonder how I'll know. The last thing I want to do is render my chemo ineffective, but I'd like to take it along with the chemo if it will work. As a stage IV patient, I'm too afraid to rely solely on someting like this without the chemo, as it's just recently that I've gotten my first "stable" PET scan report (wheras there was cancerous growth in the two prior scans).
My other question, Diane- you said you mix it in applesauce to disguise the nasty taste. Yet you say the directions say to dissolve it in warm water. Do you not mix it in water, but just sprinkle it in the applesauce?

As to other supplements, I currently also take cimetidine 800 mg/day, resveratrol (red grape seed extract), and I alternate between aspirin and tumeric (I read the tumeric needs to be taken with a dash of black pepper, mixed in olive oil). I've had to cut back on the tumeric/aspirin because I was starting to develop bruises all over (it can cause increased bleeding). Now that I have just been put back on Avastin (along with Gemzar and Xeloda), I will need to be careful about anything that can increase my bleeding.

I will look more into the modified citrus pectin. Diane- do you also take the quercitine chalcone, talked about in the first study mentioned, along with the MCP?

Lisa

Scambuster

lisa42 said:

questions
Thanks, Diane, for posting this. I believe you posted it a while back also, and I had forgotten about it. One thing I'm wondering... if it coats the cancer cells and doesn't allow them to stick together, does that coating act as a barrier to the chemotherapy I'm on? I have a feeling I won't get an accurate answer from my onc, as he's leary of supplements, so i wonder how I'll know. The last thing I want to do is render my chemo ineffective, but I'd like to take it along with the chemo if it will work. As a stage IV patient, I'm too afraid to rely solely on someting like this without the chemo, as it's just recently that I've gotten my first "stable" PET scan report (wheras there was cancerous growth in the two prior scans).
My other question, Diane- you said you mix it in applesauce to disguise the nasty taste. Yet you say the directions say to dissolve it in warm water. Do you not mix it in water, but just sprinkle it in the applesauce?

As to other supplements, I currently also take cimetidine 800 mg/day, resveratrol (red grape seed extract), and I alternate between aspirin and tumeric (I read the tumeric needs to be taken with a dash of black pepper, mixed in olive oil). I've had to cut back on the tumeric/aspirin because I was starting to develop bruises all over (it can cause increased bleeding). Now that I have just been put back on Avastin (along with Gemzar and Xeloda), I will need to be careful about anything that can increase my bleeding.

I will look more into the modified citrus pectin. Diane- do you also take the quercitine chalcone, talked about in the first study mentioned, along with the MCP?

Lisa

Bring it to the top - MCP
Just thought it a good idea to bring this post back to the Top re MCP (Modified Citrus Pectin)

You can buy it online through discount Supplement sites. I get mine from the US online and they ship to my door over here in China.

I take 1 heaped teaspoon every day on my health shake which I pour over cereal + fruit. Easy.

Best to all Scam

Scambuster

Bring it to the Top - MCP
Just thought it a good idea to bring this post back to the Top re MCP (Modified Citrus Pectin)

You can buy it online through discount Supplement sites. I get mine from the US online and they ship to my door over here in China.

I take 1 heaped teaspoon every day on my health shake which I pour over cereal + fruit. Easy.

Best to all Scam

pete43lost_at_sea

Scambuster said:

Bring it to the Top - MCP
Just thought it a good idea to bring this post back to the Top re MCP (Modified Citrus Pectin)

You can buy it online through discount Supplement sites. I get mine from the US online and they ship to my door over here in China.

I take 1 heaped teaspoon every day on my health shake which I pour over cereal + fruit. Easy.

Best to all Scam

on bio pectin
been on this 2 months. Not on chemo days.
great post by the way.
Forgot to check with onc. I know her answer.
No clinical study prefer not. But then she knows my approach and smiles.
Was advised by naturopath. Study is interesting.
Was doing this anyway but it nice the mice made it.
Hopefully we all will too.

Love pete

ps thanks scam. He told me about this independent of naturopath.
I like getting good tips from a range of sources.

Buckwirth

My math may be wrong
But as I have it figured, to get the effect of the high dose pectin you would need to consume 3.8oz a day if you weigh 150lbs.



A couple of teaspoons on your cereal in the morning ain't going to cut it.

John23

Buckwirth said:

My math may be wrong
But as I have it figured, to get the effect of the high dose pectin you would need to consume 3.8oz a day if you weigh 150lbs.



A couple of teaspoons on your cereal in the morning ain't going to cut it.

Buckwirth -

You sure put a lot of faith into the "industry's" answer to cancer, ehh?

Why are you so hell-bent on knocking anything else that might do the job?

(Just curious, and not meaning to be argumentive...)

Best of health to you,

John

Buckwirth

John23 said:

Buckwirth -

You sure put a lot of faith into the "industry's" answer to cancer, ehh?

Why are you so hell-bent on knocking anything else that might do the job?

(Just curious, and not meaning to be argumentive...)

Best of health to you,

John

Want to explain that?
All I did here was convert the dosing, of course admitting my conversions could be wrong. Not exactly a simple formula, and I am working on an iPad. Mg to pounds, pounds to an average human weight, back to grams then to ounces... Kind of makes the head spin.

You're not of the opinion that the dose for a mouse would be appropriate for a human are you?

John23

Buckwirth said:

Want to explain that?
All I did here was convert the dosing, of course admitting my conversions could be wrong. Not exactly a simple formula, and I am working on an iPad. Mg to pounds, pounds to an average human weight, back to grams then to ounces... Kind of makes the head spin.

You're not of the opinion that the dose for a mouse would be appropriate for a human are you?

Blake -
There had been a time in my life that I was as cynical as you!
Now not as much so, but I still habitually question everything,
and always look for what "makes sense" in claims made.

Sometimes though, things may not "make sense", but still be
as valid as anything that's been "scientifically proven".

I haven't formed an opinion of "modified citrus pectin", not that
my personal opinion should matter...... however...

I'm sure you've heard about Homeopathic medicine?

The compounds are so diluted, that there isn't a trace of the
original ingredient after the dilution process. There is absolutely
no "scientific data" that would indicate that any homeopathic
substance can possibly be of value biologically.

Homeopathic compounds have been described by the well educated,
as being nothing more than a placebo! That concept makes sense,
and is quite believable, isn't it.

What can't be explained away scientifically or biologically, is that
homeopathic compounds work quite well when used to resolve
an animal's health problem! What does an animal know about
psychosomatic conditions? How can the compounds resolve
an animal's health problem, when a "placebo" is tried and does
not work, while the homeopathic compound does?

Homeopathic medicine continues to be used, and continues
to resolve many human health problems, and does so without
any "logical" explanation, and without being supported by any
scientific study.

MCP (modified citrus pectin), and/or any other alternative can
be denounced away by using any "scientific" means, just as
homeopathic medicine has been, but just who is being helped
by those doing the denouncing?

The first rule of the Hippocratic oath, is to: "Do No Harm".

How closely do modern-day physicians follow that important
rule, when they pump carcinogenic, toxic compounds into
an already sick body?

Does -that- make sense? Or should we only trust what can
be "proven with scientific study" and "clinical trials"?

I prefer Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), since it's been
used for four thousand years, and has served billions upon
billions of people for that entire time and continues to be used
successfully.

And like you, I never put too much faith into things that "don't
make sense" while serving the financial gain of some entity.

The herbs I had used, cost an average of $5 per pound. I used
eight different herbs, with one pound lasting at least one month,
while one pound of the herbs would last up to three months.

The cost of MCP is apparently an awful lot more than any
imported medicinal strenght herb I've used, but neither is "approved"
by our medical industry. That does not mean it doesn't work,
or can't be beneficial to someone taking it.

I dislike the "profit-grabbing" atmosphere surrounding MCP,
and have always been skeptical of such things that appear
to be dollar driven. Most people likely feel the same way,
yet trust the multi-trillion dollar cancer industry and their
chemical compounds that are promoted as "the only way"
to fight cancer.

There are many ways to better health, but choosing a route
that causes harm, simply does not make any sense, regardless
of any "study" otherwise.

Best of health to you!

John

janie1

John23 said:

Blake -
There had been a time in my life that I was as cynical as you!
Now not as much so, but I still habitually question everything,
and always look for what "makes sense" in claims made.

Sometimes though, things may not "make sense", but still be
as valid as anything that's been "scientifically proven".

I haven't formed an opinion of "modified citrus pectin", not that
my personal opinion should matter...... however...

I'm sure you've heard about Homeopathic medicine?

The compounds are so diluted, that there isn't a trace of the
original ingredient after the dilution process. There is absolutely
no "scientific data" that would indicate that any homeopathic
substance can possibly be of value biologically.

Homeopathic compounds have been described by the well educated,
as being nothing more than a placebo! That concept makes sense,
and is quite believable, isn't it.

What can't be explained away scientifically or biologically, is that
homeopathic compounds work quite well when used to resolve
an animal's health problem! What does an animal know about
psychosomatic conditions? How can the compounds resolve
an animal's health problem, when a "placebo" is tried and does
not work, while the homeopathic compound does?

Homeopathic medicine continues to be used, and continues
to resolve many human health problems, and does so without
any "logical" explanation, and without being supported by any
scientific study.

MCP (modified citrus pectin), and/or any other alternative can
be denounced away by using any "scientific" means, just as
homeopathic medicine has been, but just who is being helped
by those doing the denouncing?

The first rule of the Hippocratic oath, is to: "Do No Harm".

How closely do modern-day physicians follow that important
rule, when they pump carcinogenic, toxic compounds into
an already sick body?

Does -that- make sense? Or should we only trust what can
be "proven with scientific study" and "clinical trials"?

I prefer Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), since it's been
used for four thousand years, and has served billions upon
billions of people for that entire time and continues to be used
successfully.

And like you, I never put too much faith into things that "don't
make sense" while serving the financial gain of some entity.

The herbs I had used, cost an average of $5 per pound. I used
eight different herbs, with one pound lasting at least one month,
while one pound of the herbs would last up to three months.

The cost of MCP is apparently an awful lot more than any
imported medicinal strenght herb I've used, but neither is "approved"
by our medical industry. That does not mean it doesn't work,
or can't be beneficial to someone taking it.

I dislike the "profit-grabbing" atmosphere surrounding MCP,
and have always been skeptical of such things that appear
to be dollar driven. Most people likely feel the same way,
yet trust the multi-trillion dollar cancer industry and their
chemical compounds that are promoted as "the only way"
to fight cancer.

There are many ways to better health, but choosing a route
that causes harm, simply does not make any sense, regardless
of any "study" otherwise.

Best of health to you!

John

citrus pectin
Thanks to all who have weighed in. I appreciate both sides. While we all would love a magic bullet, we have to make our own decisions. Particularly I have to take into consideration (for my own take on this) the comments of Tina, and Lisa. Keep the research articles coming..... and for others sharing their experiences and knowledge. We do need to know as much as possible. One day things will be more clear-cut.
I, too, will look forward to questions to ask a naturopath. Just soaking in as much as possible. I'm sitting here with my to-go pump. Only on second time with Folfox-Avastin regimen for Stage4. I like to walk a lot to keep the circulation going. Not tired, appetite maybe a little too good. Thanks to all. janie

Unknown

Buckwirth said:

Want to explain that?
All I did here was convert the dosing, of course admitting my conversions could be wrong. Not exactly a simple formula, and I am working on an iPad. Mg to pounds, pounds to an average human weight, back to grams then to ounces... Kind of makes the head spin.

You're not of the opinion that the dose for a mouse would be appropriate for a human are you?

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Buckwirth

John23 said:

Blake -
There had been a time in my life that I was as cynical as you!
Now not as much so, but I still habitually question everything,
and always look for what "makes sense" in claims made.

Sometimes though, things may not "make sense", but still be
as valid as anything that's been "scientifically proven".

I haven't formed an opinion of "modified citrus pectin", not that
my personal opinion should matter...... however...

I'm sure you've heard about Homeopathic medicine?

The compounds are so diluted, that there isn't a trace of the
original ingredient after the dilution process. There is absolutely
no "scientific data" that would indicate that any homeopathic
substance can possibly be of value biologically.

Homeopathic compounds have been described by the well educated,
as being nothing more than a placebo! That concept makes sense,
and is quite believable, isn't it.

What can't be explained away scientifically or biologically, is that
homeopathic compounds work quite well when used to resolve
an animal's health problem! What does an animal know about
psychosomatic conditions? How can the compounds resolve
an animal's health problem, when a "placebo" is tried and does
not work, while the homeopathic compound does?

Homeopathic medicine continues to be used, and continues
to resolve many human health problems, and does so without
any "logical" explanation, and without being supported by any
scientific study.

MCP (modified citrus pectin), and/or any other alternative can
be denounced away by using any "scientific" means, just as
homeopathic medicine has been, but just who is being helped
by those doing the denouncing?

The first rule of the Hippocratic oath, is to: "Do No Harm".

How closely do modern-day physicians follow that important
rule, when they pump carcinogenic, toxic compounds into
an already sick body?

Does -that- make sense? Or should we only trust what can
be "proven with scientific study" and "clinical trials"?

I prefer Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), since it's been
used for four thousand years, and has served billions upon
billions of people for that entire time and continues to be used
successfully.

And like you, I never put too much faith into things that "don't
make sense" while serving the financial gain of some entity.

The herbs I had used, cost an average of $5 per pound. I used
eight different herbs, with one pound lasting at least one month,
while one pound of the herbs would last up to three months.

The cost of MCP is apparently an awful lot more than any
imported medicinal strenght herb I've used, but neither is "approved"
by our medical industry. That does not mean it doesn't work,
or can't be beneficial to someone taking it.

I dislike the "profit-grabbing" atmosphere surrounding MCP,
and have always been skeptical of such things that appear
to be dollar driven. Most people likely feel the same way,
yet trust the multi-trillion dollar cancer industry and their
chemical compounds that are promoted as "the only way"
to fight cancer.

There are many ways to better health, but choosing a route
that causes harm, simply does not make any sense, regardless
of any "study" otherwise.

Best of health to you!

John

So, let me get this straight
You don't approve of citrus pectin, and I am cynical? Or are you saying that, because of the theory of homeopathy that no dosage matters?

I still don't understand. Honestly John, I feel like I'm being attacked for helping figure out the most beneficial dosage, based on a published trial.

What is that about?

Unknown

Buckwirth said:

So, let me get this straight
You don't approve of citrus pectin, and I am cynical? Or are you saying that, because of the theory of homeopathy that no dosage matters?

I still don't understand. Honestly John, I feel like I'm being attacked for helping figure out the most beneficial dosage, based on a published trial.

What is that about?

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