Cancer from our environment ???????

Kerry S

I think many of us are now cancer folks from our environment.

10/06 our refrigerator quit making ice. Because our well water is filtered, I bypassed the refrigerator filter. Icemaker worked fine. A month later both my wife and I started have gastro problems. The icemaker quit 2 more times until I found that a substance was coming out of the flexible supply hose and replaced it with copper line.

During this period of time, my wife was hospitalized 4 times with what they thought was crohns, but she did not respond to the normal crohns treatment. She even had a tooth fall out. I still had gut pain and loose bowels.

After I replaced the supply hose 11/07, we both got better with in 2 days of each other.
We found that we had lost our sense of smell and taste when they came back. Why would 2 people get sick at the same time and then get better at the same time a year later???

I investigated and found that this flexible hose is made by mixing a chemical called DEHP with PVC to make it flexible. The EPA says your drinking water should not have more then 6 parts per billion of DEHP in it as it causes cancer in rats.

The hose manufacture says it couldn’t happen. The major home improvement store where I bought the hose did stop selling it. Because of this I set up a colonoscopy as soon as I was covered by Medicare 3/08. I had 15 polyps removed and they found the cancer tumor in my rectum. THen later, node and liver.

My wife’s doc thinks she was protected by the coating drugs she was taking for crohns. She has had no problems from the time I replaced the hose and the icemaker is still working fine.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you’ve got yourself a duck

John23

Quacking with the Geese.

There are pictures on cave walls depicting tumors on human figures,
so I would think it's safe to assume cancer's been around longer
than treated water. Getting skin cancer from too much exposure
to the sun isn't new science, either.

The list is endless, because the manner in which a cell can become
damaged is near endless. Once a cell is damaged where it can no
longer read the brain/body's signals, it resorts to survival by means
of the fermentation process, much like an amoeba.

The real problem isn't how we "get cancer", the problem is why
our immune system isn't ridding our body of those errant cells in
the manner it should be.

It's amazing how a simple concept manages to elude the multi-billion
dollar cancer industry, ehh?


John

PhillieG

Hi Kerry
I can't agree with you more. Well, maybe I COULD. While cancer has been around ever since cells were around but cases of cancer since the Industrial Revolution must have increased. Yes, cave men had cancer I'm sure, if they lived that long. It's a natural condition that happens with cells but to not see a link between cancer and what we've done to our environment is hard not to see. It's like global warming. How can spewing pollutants into a sealed environment (the earth's atmosphere) not be bad for the planet? I know they had 2 snowstorms in Washington DC over the past few weeks and FOX News has declared global warning to be over and a farce. Using that "logic" it's going to get dark tonight so that means the end of the world is here and it will never get light again!!!

So I believe we are constantly putting ourselves in danger by living where we do, eating what we do, and just being alive in the 21st century.

Sorry you both have had to deal with what you had to deal with.
Theses are side-effects of progress it seems...
-phil

coloCan

PhillieG said:

Hi Kerry
I can't agree with you more. Well, maybe I COULD. While cancer has been around ever since cells were around but cases of cancer since the Industrial Revolution must have increased. Yes, cave men had cancer I'm sure, if they lived that long. It's a natural condition that happens with cells but to not see a link between cancer and what we've done to our environment is hard not to see. It's like global warming. How can spewing pollutants into a sealed environment (the earth's atmosphere) not be bad for the planet? I know they had 2 snowstorms in Washington DC over the past few weeks and FOX News has declared global warning to be over and a farce. Using that "logic" it's going to get dark tonight so that means the end of the world is here and it will never get light again!!!

So I believe we are constantly putting ourselves in danger by living where we do, eating what we do, and just being alive in the 21st century.

Sorry you both have had to deal with what you had to deal with.
Theses are side-effects of progress it seems...
-phil

Progess,Phil?
What other species besides humanity destroys its habitat as well as its own species? Not only does the environment have its influence on the development of cancer (witness current uproar in some communities over cable/phone relay equipmrnt) but so do our own choices (as in my prior poor diet, among other things)..But of course there are others who have devoted their life to helping others, such as our doctors, nurses,researchers,etc......Steve

PhillieG

coloCan said:

Progess,Phil?
What other species besides humanity destroys its habitat as well as its own species? Not only does the environment have its influence on the development of cancer (witness current uproar in some communities over cable/phone relay equipmrnt) but so do our own choices (as in my prior poor diet, among other things)..But of course there are others who have devoted their life to helping others, such as our doctors, nurses,researchers,etc......Steve

With Progress Like That
Who needs it! I was being a tad bit sarcastic with the "Progress" comment Steve. Collectively we are quite the piece of work I'd say. We are our own worst enemy. Who said that comment, was it in the Pogo comic strip where they said "we have met the enemy and they are us" or something close to that. We certainly will do ourselves in at some point. The cockroaches can't wait!

coloCan

PhillieG said:

With Progress Like That
Who needs it! I was being a tad bit sarcastic with the "Progress" comment Steve. Collectively we are quite the piece of work I'd say. We are our own worst enemy. Who said that comment, was it in the Pogo comic strip where they said "we have met the enemy and they are us" or something close to that. We certainly will do ourselves in at some point. The cockroaches can't wait!

Speaking of cavemen and cancer
researchers in Austria recently discovered a"primitive" cancer gene in a fresh water polyp (Hydra),the oncogene 'myc'. They say this cancer gene goes back 600 million years ago and its still around today so yes,cancer , as this one example indicates,is quite ancient but much less prevelent then......Steve