Triple Negative Breast Cancer
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Some info on "triple negative"
My beloved wife Moopy was dx'ed 11/17/2008 with stage IIIa "triple negative" BC. She's feeling wiped out from her own medical adventures this week (all is well, thank God) or she would be writing this.
It does get galling to hear the idiotic term "triple negative" tossed around. It does feel frightening to know that there are (as yet) no specific treatments for "triple negative" BC. On the bright side, I can tell you that there are lots of "triple negative" BC survivors out there, some very long-term, and there is no reason why you can't be one of them too!
Back in April, Mimi (a tireless and skilled researcher who is, like Moopy, a "triple negative" BC survivor) and I collaborated on an informal intro to "triple negative" BC. You can find it here; hopefully you will find it useful. The bottom line is that despite all the misleading and downright wrong crap you can find out there on the Internet about "triple negative" BC, you have nothing to freak out about and lots of good reasons to have hope.
Best,
Joe0 -
Thanks, JoeAortus said:Some info on "triple negative"
My beloved wife Moopy was dx'ed 11/17/2008 with stage IIIa "triple negative" BC. She's feeling wiped out from her own medical adventures this week (all is well, thank God) or she would be writing this.
It does get galling to hear the idiotic term "triple negative" tossed around. It does feel frightening to know that there are (as yet) no specific treatments for "triple negative" BC. On the bright side, I can tell you that there are lots of "triple negative" BC survivors out there, some very long-term, and there is no reason why you can't be one of them too!
Back in April, Mimi (a tireless and skilled researcher who is, like Moopy, a "triple negative" BC survivor) and I collaborated on an informal intro to "triple negative" BC. You can find it here; hopefully you will find it useful. The bottom line is that despite all the misleading and downright wrong crap you can find out there on the Internet about "triple negative" BC, you have nothing to freak out about and lots of good reasons to have hope.
Best,
Joe
In more ways than 1. You are an angel sent by God. Your postings inspire me. It appears to me that Moopy means the world to you.
Continued loved and strength for you and Moopy.
VickiSam0 -
Welcome
Joe is right and also a tireless researcher and all-around fantastic supporter. There are things that can be done for triple negative beyond chemo/rads. Ask your oncologist what else she recommends after your conventional therapies are over. Even though I am done with chemo and radiation, I ask my onc. regularly if she has heard anything new. In fact, I'm visiting her today armed with my usual notebook of questions. One thing that is especially important for us triple negatives is diet and exercise. 3-5 hours of vigorous exercise a week and a low fat diet (33 grams or less a day) are recommended. It's something you can do for yourself to help lower your risk of recurrence. Ask more questions. We are here for you.
Mimi
PS. Joe, please let Moopy know that I am thinking of her and relieved that her medical adventures went well this week.0 -
Curiousmimivac said:Welcome
Joe is right and also a tireless researcher and all-around fantastic supporter. There are things that can be done for triple negative beyond chemo/rads. Ask your oncologist what else she recommends after your conventional therapies are over. Even though I am done with chemo and radiation, I ask my onc. regularly if she has heard anything new. In fact, I'm visiting her today armed with my usual notebook of questions. One thing that is especially important for us triple negatives is diet and exercise. 3-5 hours of vigorous exercise a week and a low fat diet (33 grams or less a day) are recommended. It's something you can do for yourself to help lower your risk of recurrence. Ask more questions. We are here for you.
Mimi
PS. Joe, please let Moopy know that I am thinking of her and relieved that her medical adventures went well this week.
What does Triple Negative mean? Does that mean Her2,Est/prog negative?
Cathy0 -
yepCat64 said:Curious
What does Triple Negative mean? Does that mean Her2,Est/prog negative?
Cathy
Cathy,
So-called triple negative breast cancer is negative for the hormones estrogen and progesterone and does not overexpress the HER2 gene, so it is ER - /PR - /HER2 -
Therefore, as Joe said, there aren't any targeted therapies for it yet like Tamoxifen, etc. for the ER/PR positive cancers or Herceptin for HER2 positive. However, chemo and radiation are generally very effective on triple negatives.0 -
Mimimimivac said:yep
Cathy,
So-called triple negative breast cancer is negative for the hormones estrogen and progesterone and does not overexpress the HER2 gene, so it is ER - /PR - /HER2 -
Therefore, as Joe said, there aren't any targeted therapies for it yet like Tamoxifen, etc. for the ER/PR positive cancers or Herceptin for HER2 positive. However, chemo and radiation are generally very effective on triple negatives.
Thank you for the info. So...I'm not sure how to ask this..but,is this a "less agressive" cancer?
Cathy
P.S. Where's your weekend post? I look forward to reading what everyone is doing this weekend even though I don't post about my "dull" life!0 -
Hey Cat,Cat64 said:Mimi
Thank you for the info. So...I'm not sure how to ask this..but,is this a "less agressive" cancer?
Cathy
P.S. Where's your weekend post? I look forward to reading what everyone is doing this weekend even though I don't post about my "dull" life!
Well, I wish it meant that it was less aggressive, but in fact, triple negative can be more aggressive. But today my oncologist told me that it was just a little more aggressive. There are other more complicated issues of different kinds of triple negative as well -- basal-like tumor versus non-basal-like tumor. This type of cancer is not as well understood as estrogen/progesteron and/or HER2 positive cancer. That is part of the reason doctors seem a bit dismaybed by it. But it does not necessarily mean a worse outcome by any means.
Mimi
PS -- I am getting ready to do the weekend update. Thanks for asking!0 -
Thank you everyone
Thanks for all your information and words of encouragement. I've been a bit scared of the whole thing and it's just really sinking in that I have cancer let alone one that needs more research. Good to know there are survivors out there
Keeping the Faith,
Kari0 -
Hi Kari,pinkkari09 said:Thank you everyone
Thanks for all your information and words of encouragement. I've been a bit scared of the whole thing and it's just really sinking in that I have cancer let alone one that needs more research. Good to know there are survivors out there
Keeping the Faith,
Kari
There are many, many survivors out there. Hang in there.
Mimi0 -
Not a dumb question at all.VickiSam said:MimiVac and Moopy .. dumb question
ER/PR negative .. Her2 positive .. what would this be called ? Anyone
VickiSam
I have heard ER/PR negative, HER2 positive BC referred to as "double negative."
Just as I believe "triple negative" is a bad name for tumors which do not respond to hormonal treatment, I also believe referring to an ER/PR negative tumor as "double negative" is a bad idea. Isn't there enough negativity associated with BC - with its diagnosis, its various treatments, and the challenge of life in its aftermath?
Why needlessly throw around the term "negative" when a positive outlook is so very important in the fight against this terrible beast?0 -
Thank you .. Aortus/JoeAortus said:Not a dumb question at all.
I have heard ER/PR negative, HER2 positive BC referred to as "double negative."
Just as I believe "triple negative" is a bad name for tumors which do not respond to hormonal treatment, I also believe referring to an ER/PR negative tumor as "double negative" is a bad idea. Isn't there enough negativity associated with BC - with its diagnosis, its various treatments, and the challenge of life in its aftermath?
Why needlessly throw around the term "negative" when a positive outlook is so very important in the fight against this terrible beast?
I think you for the insight. This give me some food for thought.
VickiSam0 -
I am also triple negative
Hi everyone,
I am so glad to hear in this forum that there are so many long time TNBC survivors!!!
I am 36, was diagnosed last year with a IIIA ductal invasive BC with 3/19 positive lymph nodes. Unfortunately, cancer cells passed to the lymphatic system and after 8 chemo cycles, a lumpectomy, 2 more chemo cycles, radiation therapy and 3 months of happiness thinking I had left cancer behind, I had a recurrence... This time, both breasts, several lymph nodes in the thoracic area and a spot on my pelvis. I am currently back on chemo, but determined to be a VERY long time survivor!!! For me and for my 2 year-old!!! Both times my response to chemo has been great, meaning that tumor(s) and lymph nodes have shrunk significantly very quickly.
Now, what I also wanted to share with you is that there currently is a clinical trial out there for triple negatives. THe drug is in phase III of development and right now it is coded as BSI.-201. So there is more than hope for all of us!!!
I am happy to have found you alla!0 -
diet and exercise for TNBCmimivac said:Welcome
Joe is right and also a tireless researcher and all-around fantastic supporter. There are things that can be done for triple negative beyond chemo/rads. Ask your oncologist what else she recommends after your conventional therapies are over. Even though I am done with chemo and radiation, I ask my onc. regularly if she has heard anything new. In fact, I'm visiting her today armed with my usual notebook of questions. One thing that is especially important for us triple negatives is diet and exercise. 3-5 hours of vigorous exercise a week and a low fat diet (33 grams or less a day) are recommended. It's something you can do for yourself to help lower your risk of recurrence. Ask more questions. We are here for you.
Mimi
PS. Joe, please let Moopy know that I am thinking of her and relieved that her medical adventures went well this week.
Hi Mimi,
thank you for your posts. They are so inspirational!
I have a question, why is it specially important for us TNBC to watch fat intake? Also, why 3.5 hours of vigorous exercise per week?
thank you!0 -
I am 31 years old and was
I am 31 years old and was just diagnosed with stage 3a ductual breast cancer. My first chemo was this past Wednesday.. I am also triple negative. I had a lumpectomy, and sentinel node biopsy which unfortunately 23 of my 25 lymph nodes were cancerous. They removed all of my underarm lymph nodes. So it is very scary because you hear triple negative and not alot of information from the doctor because they do not understand it as much.So keep your chin up and know that you will get through this.0
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