What is the Kanzius machine?

lisa42
lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
edited March 2014 in Colorectal Cancer #1
Some people referenced a "Kanzius machine" in a recent post (Eric's, I believe) & some were asking if anyone knew when it would be possible for human trials in the Kanzius machine. Who can fill me (and others) in on what this is? As we all are, I'm always hopeful in looking forward to new treatments.

Lisa

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  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
    #2
    I just googled it
    I just googled "Kanzius machine" and answered my own question (should have done that first, I suppose!) There were a couple of things that came up on google, but the first one was a CBS report on it. For those other of you who haven't heard of it, it's named after someone who's last name is Kanzius. He happened upon this by accident while working on things in his garage. His theory, which he conducted some informal tests with, is that radio waves can target the cancer cells without harming the rest of the body. It wasn't clear to me if this was supposed to be targeted directly at tumors, or if it could also target cancer cells floating in the body (for stage III and stage IV where the cancer has spread). You may want to read more about it...

    Lisa
  • pascale
    pascale Member Posts: 17
    #3
    lisa42 said:

    I just googled it
    I just googled "Kanzius machine" and answered my own question (should have done that first, I suppose!) There were a couple of things that came up on google, but the first one was a CBS report on it. For those other of you who haven't heard of it, it's named after someone who's last name is Kanzius. He happened upon this by accident while working on things in his garage. His theory, which he conducted some informal tests with, is that radio waves can target the cancer cells without harming the rest of the body. It wasn't clear to me if this was supposed to be targeted directly at tumors, or if it could also target cancer cells floating in the body (for stage III and stage IV where the cancer has spread). You may want to read more about it...

    Lisa

    Kanzius
    Hey Lisa,
    Check out this web site: http://www.kanziuscancerresearch.com/
    As far as I know, Steven Curley of MD Anderson was working with Kanzius at the time of his death, and he is the one who is taking the clinical trials forward. I'm not sure I have this straight, but I think they want to combine gold nanotechnology with low-frequency radio waves: gold nanoparticles will target cancer cells (so anywhere in the body, including "free floating" ones) and the radio waves will "cook" them. Sounds crazy but also very promising. Can anyone else back me up on this, or correct my info?
    Pascale
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
    #4
    thanks Pascale
    Thanks, Pascale! I will look up the link you mentioned. Interesting about the gold nanoparticles. In cyberknife, gold "feducials" (described to me as very small beads) are inserted into tumors to be targeted for this precise radiation. The radiation is drawn to the gold and that way, supposedly that makes for more precise radiation, especially with organs that move as you breathe, etc. That's exciting to think such a technology could really be used for the "floating cancer cells" too! Thanks for your info.
  • Sundanceh
    Sundanceh Member Posts: 4,392 Member
    #5
    lisa42 said:

    thanks Pascale
    Thanks, Pascale! I will look up the link you mentioned. Interesting about the gold nanoparticles. In cyberknife, gold "feducials" (described to me as very small beads) are inserted into tumors to be targeted for this precise radiation. The radiation is drawn to the gold and that way, supposedly that makes for more precise radiation, especially with organs that move as you breathe, etc. That's exciting to think such a technology could really be used for the "floating cancer cells" too! Thanks for your info.

    So True About CyberKnife
    Yes, they place the seed markers down in and around the tumor to be targeted, in my case they were placed in the liver. CyberKnife uses those markers to precisely radiate the tumor and destroy it. It's very intense radiation over a couple of hours in just a few treatments (5 maxium) instead of general radiation, which is broader, shorter time period and more of them.

    And Lisa is right, it adjusts for your breathing. They outfitted me in special vest that is hooked up to the machine, so that when you breathe in and out, CyberKnife stays precisely on target and does not deviate from the tumor. I thought it was pretty high tech and it was effective at knocking out my liver tumor locally.

    This new Kanzius device sounds promising. Thanks for the info.

    -Craig
  • pascale
    pascale Member Posts: 17
    #6
    Sundanceh said:

    So True About CyberKnife
    Yes, they place the seed markers down in and around the tumor to be targeted, in my case they were placed in the liver. CyberKnife uses those markers to precisely radiate the tumor and destroy it. It's very intense radiation over a couple of hours in just a few treatments (5 maxium) instead of general radiation, which is broader, shorter time period and more of them.

    And Lisa is right, it adjusts for your breathing. They outfitted me in special vest that is hooked up to the machine, so that when you breathe in and out, CyberKnife stays precisely on target and does not deviate from the tumor. I thought it was pretty high tech and it was effective at knocking out my liver tumor locally.

    This new Kanzius device sounds promising. Thanks for the info.

    -Craig

    More on Kanzius
    Here is the link to Steven Curley's web site, which has more information on the technique:

    http://www.rfnanocancer.com/
  • lmliess
    lmliess Member Posts: 329
    #7
    Steven Curley did my liver resection
    ...in Houston at MD Anderson. He is awesome and would HIGHLY recommend him to anyone having liver issues. From what I have researched and heard from him, they are trying to push through the FDA to start human trials in 2010. I will feel completely blessed to have a dr that can take over an invention like this and hopefully make some major changes in chemotherapy.
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
    #8
    how exciting!
    Wow- Thanks for letting us know- very exciting, especially that Steven Curley did your liver resection.

    Take care :))
  • idlehunters
    idlehunters Member Posts: 1,787 Member
    #9
    lmliess said:

    Steven Curley did my liver resection
    ...in Houston at MD Anderson. He is awesome and would HIGHLY recommend him to anyone having liver issues. From what I have researched and heard from him, they are trying to push through the FDA to start human trials in 2010. I will feel completely blessed to have a dr that can take over an invention like this and hopefully make some major changes in chemotherapy.

    Curley
    I will be at MD Anderson on the 30th. I am going to research this Kanzius machine while there.

    Jennie
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member
    #10
    Rife Machine
    Hi Lisa,

    while you're googling, look up Royal Rife. He did something like this (radio waves to cure disease dialing onto their frequencies or something like that) YEARS ago and when "they" found this to cure cancer they first courted him and then got rid of him. Quite a story.

    The Rife Machines can be had by anyone and people make their own.

    Worth looking into.

    peace, emily
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
    #11
    2bhealed said:

    Rife Machine
    Hi Lisa,

    while you're googling, look up Royal Rife. He did something like this (radio waves to cure disease dialing onto their frequencies or something like that) YEARS ago and when "they" found this to cure cancer they first courted him and then got rid of him. Quite a story.

    The Rife Machines can be had by anyone and people make their own.

    Worth looking into.

    peace, emily

    wow- everyone should google Royal Rife!
    Wow, Emily. I did google Royal Rife and read one of the articles on his life, his discovery, and how his amazing technology was ignored. To think all this was happening in San Diego and I've never heard of him until now and that's where I live! Like the article said though, it's no surprise most people today haven't heard of the Rife machine- it would put everyone else out of business and the medical industry, in general, is always opposed to someone who claims to have new info or technology that must change their way of thinking.
    I don't know whether to be excited about this technology or not- sounds so wonderful, but also sounds like you won't be able to find a doctor anywhere who will touch it.

    If any of you do know of anyone who treats with the Rife machine, let us know!!

    Lisa
  • snommintj
    snommintj Member Posts: 601
    #12
    lisa42 said:

    wow- everyone should google Royal Rife!
    Wow, Emily. I did google Royal Rife and read one of the articles on his life, his discovery, and how his amazing technology was ignored. To think all this was happening in San Diego and I've never heard of him until now and that's where I live! Like the article said though, it's no surprise most people today haven't heard of the Rife machine- it would put everyone else out of business and the medical industry, in general, is always opposed to someone who claims to have new info or technology that must change their way of thinking.
    I don't know whether to be excited about this technology or not- sounds so wonderful, but also sounds like you won't be able to find a doctor anywhere who will touch it.

    If any of you do know of anyone who treats with the Rife machine, let us know!!

    Lisa

    Rife?
    Yeah, I've heard of him. This is the thing. If some guy from hoboken can replicate or reproduce your claims and results then you have a chance. The problem with rife is that his claims couldn't be duplicated in a lab. If you can't replicate your results then all you have is speculation and you get shuffled into the pseudo science deck. That's a place you don't want to be. Sure you can make money but you're just as likely to go to jail. The fact that many people who sell these machines have been prosecuted for murder is certainly concerning. I don't think they have ever arrested someone for actually curing cancer in anyone. As far as not grasping onto new technology, well that can be empirically denied simply by looking at any aspect of society. If it works and someone can make money from it, we'll take it and run with it. You can bet your **** that the only reason the Kanzius machine is being developed is because they have now found a way to make money from it. There is a new market for bioengineering, you can patent ideas and techniques for identifying, producing, and binding antibodies. There are literally billions of possible combinations and techniques available for Drs, labs, pharma, to stake their claim too. The good news is that the first person in this game is probably gonna be the biggest player, and like I said this technology isn't terribly complicated. I'll refuse to glorify or dignify anyone who throws their name in the ring first. Their going to get their cut and their greed is what has taken so long to get things moving.

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