Hair

tgf
tgf Member Posts: 950 Member
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
Well ... I've been wondering about whether I'd lose my hair or not. I'm on weekly taxol and herceptin and my oncologist said I would for sure have thinning hair but he didn't know if I would lose it all ... or not. From what I'd been reading on these posts it seems that most people who DID lose their hair had it happen somewhere between 13-16 days after the first treatment. My first treatment was March 13th. Well ... I kind of "checked" for hair loss by running my fingers through my hair and nothing would happen so I decided to keep my appointment with my hairdress last Thursday ... the day before my 3rd treatment. No hair came out when I ran my fingers through it but I decided that "just in case" I'd have her cut it VERY short. Well ... needless to say ... 2 days later ... YESTERDAY afternoon... day 15 ... I ran my fingers through my hair ... my very short hair ... and ended up with a hand full of hair. I couldn't believe it. Everything had been fine in the morning ... but it just seemed to happen all of a sudden. No warning ... just a hand full of hair. I called a friend who I thought might have hair clippers ... and she told me to come on over and she'd "do the deed." I took a quick shower to get the lose hair off of me ... but when I looked down at the drain ... there was hair all over the place. :-) Anyway ... I grabbed my "chemo-hat" that I'd ordered a couple of weeks ago ... just in case I needed it ... and I went off to my friend's house.

It is quite a shock to look in the mirror and see this bald head ... and I'm also surprised how much I look like my bald grandfather! Oh well ... it is what it is and I just went through my TLC catalog and ordered some more stuff to cover the baldness and keep my head warm ... so hopefully in a few days I'll figure out how to tie those scarves and put on some of my bigger and "bolder" earrings ... and start making a fashion statement of my own.

hugs.
teena

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  • Ltalcott
    Ltalcott Member Posts: 119
    hair today, gone tomorrow
    Seems to be the only univeral side effect that everyone on chemo can count on. What fun.

    Lisa
  • Aortus
    Aortus Member Posts: 967
    Cheer up, ladies...
    at least your hair is going to come back. I have been sporting the same "hair style" as my bald maternal grandfather for about 20 years now - it didn't stop Moopy from agreeing to go out with me, or from marrying me.

    Speaking of my beloved Moopster, I have a confession. For all the courage she has demonstrated in her battle against the BC monster - deciding immediately after diagnosis on a mastectomy, determinedly pursuing a second treatment opinion and acting on it, dealing with a collapsed lung from her port surgery, soldiering through a terrible first round of TAC and her constant fight against the "winged monkey" of despair - I have to say I'm proudest of how she has dealt with losing her hair.

    My beautiful Moopy is an extremely vain woman - which is, of course, fine by me. She is also very competitive and very bad at losing gracefully, which explains 1) her career as a teenage tennis champ and 2) why we had to stop playing Scrabble a decade ago. If Moop was afraid of losing her hair to chemo, I was absolutely terrified of it!

    Yet surprisingly (Moopsy herself admits it surprised her too), she handled the situation wonderfully. I wasn't surprised by the strength and commitment Moopy showed in dealing with her new balditude. Nor was I surprised that she turned out to be an unbelievably cute little bald girl. But I was amazed to discover that all these years, Moopy actually had it in her to be a good sport. She looks around for cute hats and scarves, she fusses with her wigs, she makes all sorts of jokes about being Mrs. Peanut. Who knew!?!?

    Wishing all you ladies all the best in every way, including the shortest possible stay in the baldies' club,

    Joe
  • rjjj
    rjjj Member Posts: 1,822 Member
    Hi Teena
    Sorry this has happened. I also deluded myself into thinking i would not lose mine. I did have a warning though my head hurt like heck. Hair today..gone tomorrow. Tlc is a good place to get wigs. The ACS actually sent me a couple when i contacted them.
    we do have one consolation..it will grow back, but not soon enough for most of us!!
    God Bless
    Jackie
  • Jadie
    Jadie Member Posts: 723
    You go girl
    Might as well have some fun with it. TLC catalog use to have bangs that you could order to wear with your scarves and hats. It adds so much to them with your big earrings. Try to go to Look Good Feel Better that your local cancer society sponsers. They will show you how to wear makeup and to tie scarves. They will also give you a very nice makeup kit.

    Loosing your hair is so very hard. I had a friend buzz mine too. Sounds like you have a great attitude about it. I'm sure your grandfather would be proud. LOL

    Take care
    Jadie
  • rjjj
    rjjj Member Posts: 1,822 Member
    Aortus said:

    Cheer up, ladies...
    at least your hair is going to come back. I have been sporting the same "hair style" as my bald maternal grandfather for about 20 years now - it didn't stop Moopy from agreeing to go out with me, or from marrying me.

    Speaking of my beloved Moopster, I have a confession. For all the courage she has demonstrated in her battle against the BC monster - deciding immediately after diagnosis on a mastectomy, determinedly pursuing a second treatment opinion and acting on it, dealing with a collapsed lung from her port surgery, soldiering through a terrible first round of TAC and her constant fight against the "winged monkey" of despair - I have to say I'm proudest of how she has dealt with losing her hair.

    My beautiful Moopy is an extremely vain woman - which is, of course, fine by me. She is also very competitive and very bad at losing gracefully, which explains 1) her career as a teenage tennis champ and 2) why we had to stop playing Scrabble a decade ago. If Moop was afraid of losing her hair to chemo, I was absolutely terrified of it!

    Yet surprisingly (Moopsy herself admits it surprised her too), she handled the situation wonderfully. I wasn't surprised by the strength and commitment Moopy showed in dealing with her new balditude. Nor was I surprised that she turned out to be an unbelievably cute little bald girl. But I was amazed to discover that all these years, Moopy actually had it in her to be a good sport. She looks around for cute hats and scarves, she fusses with her wigs, she makes all sorts of jokes about being Mrs. Peanut. Who knew!?!?

    Wishing all you ladies all the best in every way, including the shortest possible stay in the baldies' club,

    Joe

    Cutest little peanut !
    Joe
    your woman is one tough peanut!! That strength and persaverence is what she needs to get to the end of the tunnel. A tennis champ huh? i am proud of her and just a couple more sets and she conquer and be victorious.

    She is still your beloved Moopster and your love shines through Mr. Peanut!! a love like yours is a blessing from God.

    All my love to Mr. Joseph/Mr. Peanut and to our dear Moopster/Mrs. Peanut,
    jackie
  • tami90650
    tami90650 Member Posts: 82
    bald is BEAUTIFUL
    Hay sister youve got a troopin attitude about this and thats whats going to get you to the other side too. Please call the acs and ask about the feel good look better program in your area. They do scarf tieing and creative fun ideas on what to do or how to work with a bald head. You also get free make up and stuff and its a great way to socialize with others traveling the same road as you.
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143
    Sudden hair loss
    Yep, it was sudden for me, too. One day, I couldn't pull my hair out if I tried; the next morning, it was all over my pillow and shower drain. Shocking. You are a trooper, Teena. Hang in there.

    Mimi
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143
    Aortus said:

    Cheer up, ladies...
    at least your hair is going to come back. I have been sporting the same "hair style" as my bald maternal grandfather for about 20 years now - it didn't stop Moopy from agreeing to go out with me, or from marrying me.

    Speaking of my beloved Moopster, I have a confession. For all the courage she has demonstrated in her battle against the BC monster - deciding immediately after diagnosis on a mastectomy, determinedly pursuing a second treatment opinion and acting on it, dealing with a collapsed lung from her port surgery, soldiering through a terrible first round of TAC and her constant fight against the "winged monkey" of despair - I have to say I'm proudest of how she has dealt with losing her hair.

    My beautiful Moopy is an extremely vain woman - which is, of course, fine by me. She is also very competitive and very bad at losing gracefully, which explains 1) her career as a teenage tennis champ and 2) why we had to stop playing Scrabble a decade ago. If Moop was afraid of losing her hair to chemo, I was absolutely terrified of it!

    Yet surprisingly (Moopsy herself admits it surprised her too), she handled the situation wonderfully. I wasn't surprised by the strength and commitment Moopy showed in dealing with her new balditude. Nor was I surprised that she turned out to be an unbelievably cute little bald girl. But I was amazed to discover that all these years, Moopy actually had it in her to be a good sport. She looks around for cute hats and scarves, she fusses with her wigs, she makes all sorts of jokes about being Mrs. Peanut. Who knew!?!?

    Wishing all you ladies all the best in every way, including the shortest possible stay in the baldies' club,

    Joe

    vanity!
    Oh, I can't imagine our Moopster as vain at all. But if she is, we have that in common. I am also very vain, so losing hair was very difficult for me. We can be vain together and talk about all the wonderful things we will do with our hair once it is back.
  • Moopy23
    Moopy23 Member Posts: 1,751 Member
    Hair
    Hi, Teena, you almost make balditude sound fun--what a wonderful example for all of us.

    My loving husband gives me too much credit. I think he means that he expected me to have a mental breakdown, but I didn't. (I probably would've, but the poor man was so visibly worried that I went on with it. The things we do for our loved ones.)

    I sometimes forget that I have no hair and will reach for a hair pin or up to my head, expecting hair. And I have been without mine for a couple of months now. So it does take some getting used to. I packed away all of my hair products as soon as I lost the hair--someone recommended putting them out of sight. Which doesn't stop me from casting wistful looks at the hair care section in stores.

    We are saving money, come to think of it. I am sure our hair stylists miss us. Then again, they probably expect to see us again in a few months, ready for all the help we can get!
  • mimivac
    mimivac Member Posts: 2,143
    Moopy23 said:

    Hair
    Hi, Teena, you almost make balditude sound fun--what a wonderful example for all of us.

    My loving husband gives me too much credit. I think he means that he expected me to have a mental breakdown, but I didn't. (I probably would've, but the poor man was so visibly worried that I went on with it. The things we do for our loved ones.)

    I sometimes forget that I have no hair and will reach for a hair pin or up to my head, expecting hair. And I have been without mine for a couple of months now. So it does take some getting used to. I packed away all of my hair products as soon as I lost the hair--someone recommended putting them out of sight. Which doesn't stop me from casting wistful looks at the hair care section in stores.

    We are saving money, come to think of it. I am sure our hair stylists miss us. Then again, they probably expect to see us again in a few months, ready for all the help we can get!

    Hair expenses
    Oh man, I can't even tell you how much I used to spend on my hair. From the expensive hair cuts every eight weeks, to the highlights, and salon hair products. And let's not forget the monthly salon waxing. Right before I was diagnosed I had a consultation at the salon for electroalysis. I'm glad I didn't go through with it...
  • Moopy23
    Moopy23 Member Posts: 1,751 Member
    mimivac said:

    Hair expenses
    Oh man, I can't even tell you how much I used to spend on my hair. From the expensive hair cuts every eight weeks, to the highlights, and salon hair products. And let's not forget the monthly salon waxing. Right before I was diagnosed I had a consultation at the salon for electroalysis. I'm glad I didn't go through with it...

    Money Saved
    Well, there you go, Mimi. More money saved. Chemo-provided electroalysis at no extra charge.

    That's me, too, by the way, with the regular hair cuts, lowlights/highlights,waxing, salon stuff. Joe did not ever ask or look at how much I spent--out of fear and dread. Let's just say I went often enough that my hair stylist is a good friend. I am sure her income is down a bit! But it will go up when I run to her with "Whose hair is this on my head? Why is it doing this and not that?!"
  • JoyD
    JoyD Member Posts: 81
    Shampoo?
    Can you please advise what shampoo do you use when you are bald? I still have my hair but will eventually lose it probably in 14 days....first Chemo tomorrow...thanks.
  • Moopy23
    Moopy23 Member Posts: 1,751 Member
    JoyD said:

    Shampoo?
    Can you please advise what shampoo do you use when you are bald? I still have my hair but will eventually lose it probably in 14 days....first Chemo tomorrow...thanks.

    First Chemo Tomorrow
    Hi, Joy,

    I don't have a recommendation on shampoo other than Johnson's Baby Shampoo. Jackie has her fifth treatment tomorrow, and I will be thinking of you both and wishing you well.

    We will be here if you have any questions or concerns after. I remember my first treatment and the help I received here. Although it seems far off now, you, too, will be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
  • JoyD
    JoyD Member Posts: 81
    Moopy23 said:

    First Chemo Tomorrow
    Hi, Joy,

    I don't have a recommendation on shampoo other than Johnson's Baby Shampoo. Jackie has her fifth treatment tomorrow, and I will be thinking of you both and wishing you well.

    We will be here if you have any questions or concerns after. I remember my first treatment and the help I received here. Although it seems far off now, you, too, will be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

    Thanks Moopy23
    Thanks Moopy for the tip - Baby Shampoo. Hope to be strong tomorrow as the Chemo is about 2.3 - 3 hours long.

    Joy
  • KathiM
    KathiM Member Posts: 8,028 Member
    So, you find a scarf....
    One that is longer than it is wide. Grab each end, and position the center of the 'rope' at the base of your neck in back. Draw the two ends up either side of your head, and make a knot (not a bow) on top. Tuck each remaining end back thru the scarf in the back of your head, fanning the ends so that your entire scalp is covered...that's it! I actually got asked how to do it from people WITH hair...I got some pretty scarves that matched my outfits...

    I was standing beside my beau, commenting that maybe I WAS going to be in the 1% who didn't have hair loss. After all, I had just completed chemo for rectal cancer 6 months earlier, and only had hair thinning. So, jokingly, I grabbed a 1" lock of hair and tugged, saying "See, it's just fi...."-I stopped, because that 1" lock was in my hand...we stared at it for what seemed like hours...

    If you look at my pic, this is my hair as of last December...pretty nice, huh?

    Hugs, Kathi
  • chriss26
    chriss26 Member Posts: 18
    JoyD said:

    Shampoo?
    Can you please advise what shampoo do you use when you are bald? I still have my hair but will eventually lose it probably in 14 days....first Chemo tomorrow...thanks.

    Shampoo
    I work with hair for a living. There is a professional product called Nioxin. It is a little expensive but it helps to detox the scalp from all the chemo. It helps the hair come back
    faster and healthier. I also had my dad use it when he was first diagnosed with lung cancer. He did not loose his hair with 6 months of chemo and radiation. However when the cancer went to his brain, he could not use any shampoos and he did end up loosing his hair from the brain radiation. But it can't hurt. Chris
  • rjjj
    rjjj Member Posts: 1,822 Member
    Moopy23 said:

    First Chemo Tomorrow
    Hi, Joy,

    I don't have a recommendation on shampoo other than Johnson's Baby Shampoo. Jackie has her fifth treatment tomorrow, and I will be thinking of you both and wishing you well.

    We will be here if you have any questions or concerns after. I remember my first treatment and the help I received here. Although it seems far off now, you, too, will be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

    thanks moopy
    fifth trearment tomorrow and then the countdown to the last!!can't hardly believe it. i am wishing you and mimi all the best on fri. we will have to celebrate mimi's last one!!What warriors we are!!!

    ijust wash my head with anti-bacterial soap and use conditioner after, weird thinf is i have stubbles growing about an 8th of a inch..but growing nontheless. my hubbie keeps telling me to shave it so it will grow back in thicker. i am kinda fond of my stubbles and want to keep them.. what do you think?
    hugs jackie
  • Moopy23
    Moopy23 Member Posts: 1,751 Member
    KathiM said:

    So, you find a scarf....
    One that is longer than it is wide. Grab each end, and position the center of the 'rope' at the base of your neck in back. Draw the two ends up either side of your head, and make a knot (not a bow) on top. Tuck each remaining end back thru the scarf in the back of your head, fanning the ends so that your entire scalp is covered...that's it! I actually got asked how to do it from people WITH hair...I got some pretty scarves that matched my outfits...

    I was standing beside my beau, commenting that maybe I WAS going to be in the 1% who didn't have hair loss. After all, I had just completed chemo for rectal cancer 6 months earlier, and only had hair thinning. So, jokingly, I grabbed a 1" lock of hair and tugged, saying "See, it's just fi...."-I stopped, because that 1" lock was in my hand...we stared at it for what seemed like hours...

    If you look at my pic, this is my hair as of last December...pretty nice, huh?

    Hugs, Kathi

    Thanks, Kris and Kathi!
    I will try the Nioxin--my aforementioned hair stylist will be glad to see me!

    Kathi, I very much appreciate the step-by step instructions for putting on a scarf. I truly was clueless. By the way, your hair does look beautiful, thick, too. I hope you and Hans both are recovering from that hospital stay. You're still in my prayers. Keep in touch as you can, and take care of yourself, too.

    Joy, my chemo takes 3 hours as well, so it pretty much does take up the whole day. The first time, I did not feel immediately tired. Joe and I went out and about that evening. I take a book to read, which helps to pass the time.

    On your first visit, the nurses will pay more attention to you, watching carefully to make sure things go well. That is reassuring. I was most nervous and scared at the first treatment; but after that session, I knew what to expect and the routine. Someone mentioned that having a chocolate shake helps with the metallic taste--haven't tried it, but I know Jackie usually has her hubby get her a milkshake. Others eat pretty lightly. Anyway, let us know how you are doing.
  • Moopy23
    Moopy23 Member Posts: 1,751 Member
    rjjj said:

    thanks moopy
    fifth trearment tomorrow and then the countdown to the last!!can't hardly believe it. i am wishing you and mimi all the best on fri. we will have to celebrate mimi's last one!!What warriors we are!!!

    ijust wash my head with anti-bacterial soap and use conditioner after, weird thinf is i have stubbles growing about an 8th of a inch..but growing nontheless. my hubbie keeps telling me to shave it so it will grow back in thicker. i am kinda fond of my stubbles and want to keep them.. what do you think?
    hugs jackie

    Next to Last Treatment
    Hey, Jackie, I was going to send you a PM wishing you well tomorrow! Good to see your post. I saw the snow forecast for the plains and was wondering if your part of Montana was affected.

    I have no stubble. When I did, it bothered me: it would feel uncomfortable when I rested my head against anything. I had Joe buzz it. I don't know if cutting it would make a difference in thickness later; maybe someone else will know.

    I'd say keep the stubble if it is not bothering you. In fact, I think you should because you want to. There are plenty of things we want that we can't have or do now--why not have the things we can??? I'd be pleased, too, to have the growth. My head is pretty bare at this point. (although I still have my eyebrows, thanks be to God)

    I will be thinking of you especially tomorrow. You have been there for me every step of the way, and I am glad we are approaching the finish line together. And we will celebrate Mimi's sixth for sure.
  • mmontero38
    mmontero38 Member Posts: 1,510
    JoyD said:

    Thanks Moopy23
    Thanks Moopy for the tip - Baby Shampoo. Hope to be strong tomorrow as the Chemo is about 2.3 - 3 hours long.

    Joy

    I not only used baby
    I not only used baby shampoo, but also used a conditioner on my scalp because it became dry and flaky. I think that the chemo made my skin very dry even though I drank lots of water and slathered on the body lotion. Hugs, Lili