Uterine Papillary Serous Carcinoma (UPSC): any others here???

lindaprocopio

I was diagnosed with UPSC, and had a total hysterectomy and 25 lymph nodes removed for staging 2 weeks ago. The cancer had penetrated into the 2nd half of the uterine wall and into 1 fallopian tube, but my cervix and ovaries (all cut out now) were clear. One of the 25 nodes removed showed microscopic traces of the cancer, jumping my diagnosis to Stage 3-C. So now I have another 2 weeks to heal from my surgery before radiation and chemo begin. I had absolutely NO symptoms; this was originally caught during a routine annual PAP test this July, (which apparently never happens). UPSC is very resistant to treatment with a high incidence of recurrance. I guess I was hoping to find someone else here with the same cancer type that would tell me that the upcoming long months and months of aggressive radiation/chemo will allow me to greet the spring cancer-free. I can't find anyone who has this rare cancer.

deanna14

I have serous papillary adenocarcinoma
I was diagnosed in August with endometrial adenocarcinoma Stage I after having a D&C where they found a polyp. When I had the hysterectomy on September 11, the polyp was actually a tumor. They found 1 pelvic lymph node involved. Mixed endometrial and serous papillary adenocarcinoma Stage IIIC. I start radiation later today and will have chemo after 5 weeks of daily radiation and 3 weeks of weekly internal radiation. So, I can't tell you what expect, it sounds like we are at the same place in our journey. Please share any information you might find that would be helpful.

lindaprocopio

deanna14 said:

I have serous papillary adenocarcinoma
I was diagnosed in August with endometrial adenocarcinoma Stage I after having a D&C where they found a polyp. When I had the hysterectomy on September 11, the polyp was actually a tumor. They found 1 pelvic lymph node involved. Mixed endometrial and serous papillary adenocarcinoma Stage IIIC. I start radiation later today and will have chemo after 5 weeks of daily radiation and 3 weeks of weekly internal radiation. So, I can't tell you what expect, it sounds like we are at the same place in our journey. Please share any information you might find that would be helpful.

Wow! I'm so glad to 'meet' you!
It DOES sound like we are traveling down the same road almost simultaneously, with you just 2 weeks ahead of me. Please stay in touch with me through this thread. I think that we could help prepare each other and share what we learn. I am 55, and in excellent health otherwise, with no concurrent conditions. I am hoping my life-lon excellent health will help me do well with my continuing treatment. My CA-125 was 50 prior to my surgery. Are they using CA-125 as a marker for your treatment? I get blood drawn again November 4th to get another CA-125 reading to see if there is any difference AFTER my surgery, but BEFORE my radiation (which will probably start the 2nd week of November). I think my radiation will be 5 days/week, for 5 weeks. I haven't been told yet what the chemo schedule will be. Do you know what it will be for you? I want them to be aggressive. The only thing I was told, informally, by the radiologist that will be doing my 'full abdominal radiation' is to expect diahrea in the later weeks of the radiation, and I was advised to try and put on a few pounds if I could in anticipation of that. I am drinking Boost and plan to purchase a case online of Boost and the other supplemental drinks and powders that Nestle makes for cancer patients. That's not advice of any doctor; I'm doing this myself, so you may want to talk to someone before you take MY advice! I'm a big believer in getting ahead of any potential problems. My oncologist just said "Eat whatever looks good to you, and rest", but I am trying to fortify myself. I would not wish this ordeal on anyone else, but I am happy to have found someone else who I can bounce things off, someone that will have practical real-life knowledge of what I am going through. I am also glad to be that resource for you. (((((deanna))))))

deanna14

lindaprocopio said:

Wow! I'm so glad to 'meet' you!
It DOES sound like we are traveling down the same road almost simultaneously, with you just 2 weeks ahead of me. Please stay in touch with me through this thread. I think that we could help prepare each other and share what we learn. I am 55, and in excellent health otherwise, with no concurrent conditions. I am hoping my life-lon excellent health will help me do well with my continuing treatment. My CA-125 was 50 prior to my surgery. Are they using CA-125 as a marker for your treatment? I get blood drawn again November 4th to get another CA-125 reading to see if there is any difference AFTER my surgery, but BEFORE my radiation (which will probably start the 2nd week of November). I think my radiation will be 5 days/week, for 5 weeks. I haven't been told yet what the chemo schedule will be. Do you know what it will be for you? I want them to be aggressive. The only thing I was told, informally, by the radiologist that will be doing my 'full abdominal radiation' is to expect diahrea in the later weeks of the radiation, and I was advised to try and put on a few pounds if I could in anticipation of that. I am drinking Boost and plan to purchase a case online of Boost and the other supplemental drinks and powders that Nestle makes for cancer patients. That's not advice of any doctor; I'm doing this myself, so you may want to talk to someone before you take MY advice! I'm a big believer in getting ahead of any potential problems. My oncologist just said "Eat whatever looks good to you, and rest", but I am trying to fortify myself. I would not wish this ordeal on anyone else, but I am happy to have found someone else who I can bounce things off, someone that will have practical real-life knowledge of what I am going through. I am also glad to be that resource for you. (((((deanna))))))

Nice to "meet" you...
I am also glad to find someone who can truly understand what I am going through. I have a wonderful partner and he has been by rock through all of this, but he can only understand to an extent how i feel. I also have wonderful family and friends. I am 39 and otherwise healthy, but have always had menstrual "issues," including endometriosis. The only different symptom was spotting between periods. In retrospect I think I had more symptoms, if I had only known.
Anyway, my CA-125 the day after surgery was only 11. They didn't check it prior to my hysterectomy because from the D&C, I was only Stage I. They they found 1 positive lymph node when they did my hysterectomy. They are also doing genetic testing. My grandmother had colon cancer, mother had endometrial and brother and uncle had colon cancer.
I start radiation tomorrow. I had my "dress rehersal" today, they set my up and did xrays to be sure everything was "set" correctly.So, my first real treatment will be tomorrow. Last week we did the simulation, where they made my molds and placed my tattoos. The tattoos are 3 small black freckles, one on each hip and one on my lower abdomen. I want you to be prepared, because no one told me ahead of time... when they placed the tattoos, I had to insert a vaginal marker. It kinda freaked me out, only because no one warned me ahead of time. I will do 5 days a week for 5 weeks external, then once a week for 3 weeks internal. My external radiation is belly button down. I was to told to expect diarrhea and fatigue. Possibly bladder problems such as urgency, frequency and increased incidence of urinary tract infection. Also, the possibility of burned skin.
When I complete radiation, I will get 5 weeks off prior to starting chemo. I'm not positive, but the initial talk was 3 days of chemo every 3 weeks for 8 cycles. Taxol and 2 other drugs that I don't remember. I am trying to approach one hurdle at a time. The reason I remember the Taxol is because that is the one that makes your hair fall out. I wanted to know that so I could mentally prepare myself. It seems like a stupid thing to worry about, but I just needed to know.
The doctor told me to eat what I wanted when I could. He encourages me at each visit to eat and especially no losing weight. I have occasionally been drinking Ensure supplements since surgery. Today at the cancer center, they gave me samples of different flavors of Ensure. The auxillary at the hospital donates them, so they are given out by the case for free to cancer patients undergoing treatment.
I am certainly glad to have someone to talk to. I will keep in touch and let you know how things are going. Let me know if you have other questions or tips. Take care of you!

lindaprocopio

deanna14 said:

Nice to "meet" you...
I am also glad to find someone who can truly understand what I am going through. I have a wonderful partner and he has been by rock through all of this, but he can only understand to an extent how i feel. I also have wonderful family and friends. I am 39 and otherwise healthy, but have always had menstrual "issues," including endometriosis. The only different symptom was spotting between periods. In retrospect I think I had more symptoms, if I had only known.
Anyway, my CA-125 the day after surgery was only 11. They didn't check it prior to my hysterectomy because from the D&C, I was only Stage I. They they found 1 positive lymph node when they did my hysterectomy. They are also doing genetic testing. My grandmother had colon cancer, mother had endometrial and brother and uncle had colon cancer.
I start radiation tomorrow. I had my "dress rehersal" today, they set my up and did xrays to be sure everything was "set" correctly.So, my first real treatment will be tomorrow. Last week we did the simulation, where they made my molds and placed my tattoos. The tattoos are 3 small black freckles, one on each hip and one on my lower abdomen. I want you to be prepared, because no one told me ahead of time... when they placed the tattoos, I had to insert a vaginal marker. It kinda freaked me out, only because no one warned me ahead of time. I will do 5 days a week for 5 weeks external, then once a week for 3 weeks internal. My external radiation is belly button down. I was to told to expect diarrhea and fatigue. Possibly bladder problems such as urgency, frequency and increased incidence of urinary tract infection. Also, the possibility of burned skin.
When I complete radiation, I will get 5 weeks off prior to starting chemo. I'm not positive, but the initial talk was 3 days of chemo every 3 weeks for 8 cycles. Taxol and 2 other drugs that I don't remember. I am trying to approach one hurdle at a time. The reason I remember the Taxol is because that is the one that makes your hair fall out. I wanted to know that so I could mentally prepare myself. It seems like a stupid thing to worry about, but I just needed to know.
The doctor told me to eat what I wanted when I could. He encourages me at each visit to eat and especially no losing weight. I have occasionally been drinking Ensure supplements since surgery. Today at the cancer center, they gave me samples of different flavors of Ensure. The auxillary at the hospital donates them, so they are given out by the case for free to cancer patients undergoing treatment.
I am certainly glad to have someone to talk to. I will keep in touch and let you know how things are going. Let me know if you have other questions or tips. Take care of you!

Thanks so much for the 'heads up on the tattoos
I had no idea about the tattoos; maybe later on we can have them enhanced into something sexier than a freckle! HA! I can't tell you how appreciative I am to have you a couple weeks ahead of me, warning and preparing me, and giving me the time to wrap my head around some of the wierd stuff coming up so soon. Were you really freaked out when you started researching this cancer type? I bawled my eyes out, and I'm usually pretty tough. But now I keep thinking, why would I be one of the ones on the bad side of the percentages? You are young; you must also believe that you will be one of the larger percentage that will come out on the other side of this long winter of treatment, cancer free in spring 2009. As Fran Dreisher says "Cancer? Schmancher!"

deanna14

lindaprocopio said:

Thanks so much for the 'heads up on the tattoos
I had no idea about the tattoos; maybe later on we can have them enhanced into something sexier than a freckle! HA! I can't tell you how appreciative I am to have you a couple weeks ahead of me, warning and preparing me, and giving me the time to wrap my head around some of the wierd stuff coming up so soon. Were you really freaked out when you started researching this cancer type? I bawled my eyes out, and I'm usually pretty tough. But now I keep thinking, why would I be one of the ones on the bad side of the percentages? You are young; you must also believe that you will be one of the larger percentage that will come out on the other side of this long winter of treatment, cancer free in spring 2009. As Fran Dreisher says "Cancer? Schmancher!"

Radiation Day 1
Well... it was a breeze. It took about 20 minutes from the time I got there until the time I was dressed and ready to leave. Each Wednesday after the treatment, I will see the doctor. So, I was actually there almost an hour today. The other four days will probably take less than 30 minutes. He said I would probably not have any side affects until about week three and that would be most likely diarrhea.
It was a good day... I went to lunch with a friend and went shopping for a little while. Now I'm off to take a nap :-).

lindaprocopio

deanna14 said:

Radiation Day 1
Well... it was a breeze. It took about 20 minutes from the time I got there until the time I was dressed and ready to leave. Each Wednesday after the treatment, I will see the doctor. So, I was actually there almost an hour today. The other four days will probably take less than 30 minutes. He said I would probably not have any side affects until about week three and that would be most likely diarrhea.
It was a good day... I went to lunch with a friend and went shopping for a little while. Now I'm off to take a nap :-).

That doesn't sound too bad!
How reasurring! Thanks so much for letting me know; that's extremely kind of you. So far, it's been pretty lopsided as far as what I am able to offer you, compared to the valuable insights you are able to give me. But our shared journey has just begun and I hope to one day be in a position to return the favor. If you picture yourself in my shoes, then you know what a gift your information is for me. Please know how much it is appreciated. Stay rested!

lindaprocopio

lindaprocopio said:

That doesn't sound too bad!
How reasurring! Thanks so much for letting me know; that's extremely kind of you. So far, it's been pretty lopsided as far as what I am able to offer you, compared to the valuable insights you are able to give me. But our shared journey has just begun and I hope to one day be in a position to return the favor. If you picture yourself in my shoes, then you know what a gift your information is for me. Please know how much it is appreciated. Stay rested!

About your "11" CA125...
I neglected to congratulate you on your low CA-125 efter your surgery!! I know that you didn't have an established 'pre-surgery' number to compare it to, but I think you can hug that number to your heart and legitimately feel optimistic that your surgery removed all of the cancer already. Maybe I am reading too much into this imperfect tool, but I am anxiously awaiting my CA-125 number following my surgery. Mine was 50 prior to surgery and I will have blood drawn November 4th and have my 'after-surgery' number about a week after that. If I am lucky enough to have a number like yours, I will rest easy during the rest of my treatment, believing in my heart that the cancer is already gone from my body, and that all of the rest of this is just a precaution. I thought that might give you another happy thought to cling to in the dark of night when the worries sometimes creep in. I wouldn't let a low CA-125 stop me from having the radiation and chemo, but I do think it is a symbol of justifiable hope.

deanna14

lindaprocopio said:

About your "11" CA125...
I neglected to congratulate you on your low CA-125 efter your surgery!! I know that you didn't have an established 'pre-surgery' number to compare it to, but I think you can hug that number to your heart and legitimately feel optimistic that your surgery removed all of the cancer already. Maybe I am reading too much into this imperfect tool, but I am anxiously awaiting my CA-125 number following my surgery. Mine was 50 prior to surgery and I will have blood drawn November 4th and have my 'after-surgery' number about a week after that. If I am lucky enough to have a number like yours, I will rest easy during the rest of my treatment, believing in my heart that the cancer is already gone from my body, and that all of the rest of this is just a precaution. I thought that might give you another happy thought to cling to in the dark of night when the worries sometimes creep in. I wouldn't let a low CA-125 stop me from having the radiation and chemo, but I do think it is a symbol of justifiable hope.

Thanks for the encouragement
I hadn't thought of it that way, but thanks. I really needed that perspective. I've had a rough few days, emotionally. Somehow starting treatment just made it all so real! My doctor put me on Effexor after surgery, partially because it is used for the menopausal symptoms and partially because he suspected I might have some depression. He assured me that I am justified in feeling a little depressed at my age, going through what I am. I never thought I would need them, but I have been having trouble sleeping. I just can't seem to shut my brain "off." You know, the what ifs... In my heart, I know that everything will be alright and that I can't change any of it. I just have to go through it and trust that the Lord will bring me through it. But I still think what if I would have done this or that. Anyway, yea I think the CA-125 result is really a positive sign. Thanks.
Are you doing okay? How are you emotionally? Are you going to work through treatment? Do you have a good support system, people you can lean on? I will be here for you. I try to check this site every day or every other day. Please, if you need to vent, I will be here. God bless you, you are in my prayers every day.
I had a good long cry last night with the support of my fiance. I woke up early this morning feeling very refreshed!
Take care, talk to you soon.

lindaprocopio

deanna14 said:

Thanks for the encouragement
I hadn't thought of it that way, but thanks. I really needed that perspective. I've had a rough few days, emotionally. Somehow starting treatment just made it all so real! My doctor put me on Effexor after surgery, partially because it is used for the menopausal symptoms and partially because he suspected I might have some depression. He assured me that I am justified in feeling a little depressed at my age, going through what I am. I never thought I would need them, but I have been having trouble sleeping. I just can't seem to shut my brain "off." You know, the what ifs... In my heart, I know that everything will be alright and that I can't change any of it. I just have to go through it and trust that the Lord will bring me through it. But I still think what if I would have done this or that. Anyway, yea I think the CA-125 result is really a positive sign. Thanks.
Are you doing okay? How are you emotionally? Are you going to work through treatment? Do you have a good support system, people you can lean on? I will be here for you. I try to check this site every day or every other day. Please, if you need to vent, I will be here. God bless you, you are in my prayers every day.
I had a good long cry last night with the support of my fiance. I woke up early this morning feeling very refreshed!
Take care, talk to you soon.

I am sort of 'between treatments'.
I had my really dark days right after my diagnosis, 1 bad night after I researched UPSC reoccurance rates; and another bad night when I got my Stage 3C pathology diagnosis. I sobbed both times more than I've ever cried for anyone or anything else in my life. (I don't know what that actually says about me as a person, but it's true.) I woke up one night crying, after dreaming of making love to my husband, afraid that I may never be that person again. But most of the time I push away all thoughts of it. I have my own business, and work from home (www.procopiofundraising.com) and have been very busy training people to do as much of my work as I think they can handle, reassuring my 24 clients that there will be no disruption in service, and doing extended planning of assignments for the staff. (Ordinarily I only plan out 2 months; I am now trying to have a tentative work plan for each client that extends out a full year.) I was pretty miserable the 1st week after my surgery, but I do not tolerate medication well (which doesn't bode well for my chemo) and haven't taken any pain killers of any kind since 2 days after my surgery. And now it's 3 weeks since my surgery and I am just now feeling good enough to do light work out in the garden, and go out to eat with friends, and tonight my grandchildren will sleep over for the 1st time since my surgery. So I guess I am in that brief period between treatments where life almost seems normal, almost. I have always been one of those busy busy busy people, scurrying around always productive, squeezing the most out of every moment of the day, trying to 'have it all'. I went to the gym every day, and am an organic gardener with huge gardens I love to work in. I am very close with my children and I have a wonderful (abeit anxiety-ridden) husband of 11 years who is having a worst time with this than I am. My oldest son is an attorney (35) and lives 5 hours away but has been home twice since my diagnosis. My youngest son (age 33) and his wife and 2 kids live less than 2 miles away and my schedule has always been filled with the grandkid's sports and school events and weekly sleep-overs and 'Grammy Days'; coupled with a 60-hour work week that extends until 11 pm each night. I have a couple of wonderful long-time girlfriends. I am blessed with a great support system. So, that's the LONG answer to how I am doing emotionally. Right now, between treatments, I am doing surprisingly well. Now, if my 'after surgery' CA-125 goes up when I get my results back around Nov 11th, I can see myself spiraling downward with the implications of that. But I try not to 'borrow trouble'. It's hard not to peek around corners and try and guess what is coming next. But try not to do the 'what ifs'. It just makes you unhappy and anxious. Even if you are not religious "put it in God's hands". I try not to show my fear and grief to my family, so finding you to talk to is really wonderful. Thanks.

lindaprocopio

deanna14 said:

Thanks for the encouragement
I hadn't thought of it that way, but thanks. I really needed that perspective. I've had a rough few days, emotionally. Somehow starting treatment just made it all so real! My doctor put me on Effexor after surgery, partially because it is used for the menopausal symptoms and partially because he suspected I might have some depression. He assured me that I am justified in feeling a little depressed at my age, going through what I am. I never thought I would need them, but I have been having trouble sleeping. I just can't seem to shut my brain "off." You know, the what ifs... In my heart, I know that everything will be alright and that I can't change any of it. I just have to go through it and trust that the Lord will bring me through it. But I still think what if I would have done this or that. Anyway, yea I think the CA-125 result is really a positive sign. Thanks.
Are you doing okay? How are you emotionally? Are you going to work through treatment? Do you have a good support system, people you can lean on? I will be here for you. I try to check this site every day or every other day. Please, if you need to vent, I will be here. God bless you, you are in my prayers every day.
I had a good long cry last night with the support of my fiance. I woke up early this morning feeling very refreshed!
Take care, talk to you soon.

How did 1st week of radiation go?
You've been on my mind. I was wondering how the 1st week of radiation went. You okay? I see my radiology oncologist for the 1st time Monday, so it looks like I will be joining you with the daily radiation routine very soon. Please let me know that you are okay.

pjba11

USPC Grade 3 Stage 1C
You sound so much like me. I was diagnosed 2YEARS ago. I have maxed out on a hysty, chemo, radiation and internal radiation. If you have any questions or would like to hear more of my story... just ask. Fight the fight. The journey is scarey and long. Life changes with one phone call and one word.

lindaprocopio

pjba11 said:

USPC Grade 3 Stage 1C
You sound so much like me. I was diagnosed 2YEARS ago. I have maxed out on a hysty, chemo, radiation and internal radiation. If you have any questions or would like to hear more of my story... just ask. Fight the fight. The journey is scarey and long. Life changes with one phone call and one word.

I would LOVE to hear your story!
2 years! I so wish you will be telling me that you had no re-occurance and that you are NED (No Evidence of Disease: a new abbreaviation I just learned!). But even if your story doesn't yet have that happy ending, I still very much want to hear it. I do better when I am prepared for unpleasantness. By 'maxing out' do you mean you did the full schedule prescribed, or that you took it as far as your body would allow before toxifying? I know everyone's different, but if you are still having side effects from the radiation, that could help me. You were Stage 1; I am Stage 3, so I may not have the option of NOT having full abdominal radiation.

pjba11

lindaprocopio said:

I would LOVE to hear your story!
2 years! I so wish you will be telling me that you had no re-occurance and that you are NED (No Evidence of Disease: a new abbreaviation I just learned!). But even if your story doesn't yet have that happy ending, I still very much want to hear it. I do better when I am prepared for unpleasantness. By 'maxing out' do you mean you did the full schedule prescribed, or that you took it as far as your body would allow before toxifying? I know everyone's different, but if you are still having side effects from the radiation, that could help me. You were Stage 1; I am Stage 3, so I may not have the option of NOT having full abdominal radiation.

NED
NED!!! I had not heard that term. BUT YES!! USE IT FOR ME!! IT FITS. How I pray it 'fits' you soon too!! My prayers are with you.

pjba11

lindaprocopio said:

I would LOVE to hear your story!
2 years! I so wish you will be telling me that you had no re-occurance and that you are NED (No Evidence of Disease: a new abbreaviation I just learned!). But even if your story doesn't yet have that happy ending, I still very much want to hear it. I do better when I am prepared for unpleasantness. By 'maxing out' do you mean you did the full schedule prescribed, or that you took it as far as your body would allow before toxifying? I know everyone's different, but if you are still having side effects from the radiation, that could help me. You were Stage 1; I am Stage 3, so I may not have the option of NOT having full abdominal radiation.

maxed out
I am sorry I was so caught up in all of this that I may not have answered you question on maxing out... I had all of my treatments except I stopped after 5 chemos instead of 6. My Dr was very supportive of this. She said she had nothing to support the theory that 6 would 'cure' me and 5 would not. We are all different. I did do the rest of my 25 radiation (external) and 3 internal. I still have to use a dialator and cannot do estrogen. But no other meds. My hair came back thicker and instead of stick straight as I had ... it was curly! Now it is straight and not as thick. But it was fun while it lasted... I have a full body scan every 3 months and a CA 125 every 3 months. So far so good. I wish all of the best to your future too. My prayers are with you. If I had known 2 years ago what I know now none of it would have been as difficult. Hang in there. May any 'surprises' be good ones.

lindaprocopio

pjba11 said:

maxed out
I am sorry I was so caught up in all of this that I may not have answered you question on maxing out... I had all of my treatments except I stopped after 5 chemos instead of 6. My Dr was very supportive of this. She said she had nothing to support the theory that 6 would 'cure' me and 5 would not. We are all different. I did do the rest of my 25 radiation (external) and 3 internal. I still have to use a dialator and cannot do estrogen. But no other meds. My hair came back thicker and instead of stick straight as I had ... it was curly! Now it is straight and not as thick. But it was fun while it lasted... I have a full body scan every 3 months and a CA 125 every 3 months. So far so good. I wish all of the best to your future too. My prayers are with you. If I had known 2 years ago what I know now none of it would have been as difficult. Hang in there. May any 'surprises' be good ones.

Thanks soooo much!
Yours is the success story I have been trying so hard to find. I could HUG you! Was it the internal rads that left you needing to use the dilator? I may not have a choice, and I DO want to be aggressive, but I have always LOVED my sex life and so worry about all that with the radiation. My husband says he'd go without sex forever to have me live, but I'm not going to let that happen if I can help it. Does the radiation oncologist talk about that openly or do I need to ask about that possible side effect? I am Stage 3, so I think they'll be doing all the radiation and chemo my body can take. If I get any news tomorrow about my treatment calendar, I'll post here again when I get home.

pjba11

lindaprocopio said:

Thanks soooo much!
Yours is the success story I have been trying so hard to find. I could HUG you! Was it the internal rads that left you needing to use the dilator? I may not have a choice, and I DO want to be aggressive, but I have always LOVED my sex life and so worry about all that with the radiation. My husband says he'd go without sex forever to have me live, but I'm not going to let that happen if I can help it. Does the radiation oncologist talk about that openly or do I need to ask about that possible side effect? I am Stage 3, so I think they'll be doing all the radiation and chemo my body can take. If I get any news tomorrow about my treatment calendar, I'll post here again when I get home.

the changes
It is of my opinion that you do not have to be concerned about your sex life from what I have experienced... the Dr actually recommends sex a minumum of 3 times a week or use your dialator that often to keep your muscles closer to normal. The rad dept gals brought me the dialators and told me about the cause... otherwise I knew nothing about this. It was a surprise to me, but I would have gone through all of it either way. The internal treatments were not bad. The simulation takes any surprises away. There is no pain, maybe just a steady pressure sensation. 1/3 of my vagina was taken in my surgery. I was told it is the combination of radiations that causes atrophy..spelling?? I have also been told that taking fish oil capsulses will really help. Many have a very thin lining left in the vagina because of no estrogen. It really is not that big of a factor. Life is great. I will be waiting to hear all of your GOOD NEWS. PS MY oncologist and I had a great time laughing when I told her that the gals actually asked me how big my husband was. ( so she knew what size dialator to send with me.) I skirted the issue enough that they sent me 3 sizes just in case..... IS NOTHING SACRED HERE!! HA!! ONce again you have my prayers. Good luck.

lindaprocopio

pjba11 said:

the changes
It is of my opinion that you do not have to be concerned about your sex life from what I have experienced... the Dr actually recommends sex a minumum of 3 times a week or use your dialator that often to keep your muscles closer to normal. The rad dept gals brought me the dialators and told me about the cause... otherwise I knew nothing about this. It was a surprise to me, but I would have gone through all of it either way. The internal treatments were not bad. The simulation takes any surprises away. There is no pain, maybe just a steady pressure sensation. 1/3 of my vagina was taken in my surgery. I was told it is the combination of radiations that causes atrophy..spelling?? I have also been told that taking fish oil capsulses will really help. Many have a very thin lining left in the vagina because of no estrogen. It really is not that big of a factor. Life is great. I will be waiting to hear all of your GOOD NEWS. PS MY oncologist and I had a great time laughing when I told her that the gals actually asked me how big my husband was. ( so she knew what size dialator to send with me.) I skirted the issue enough that they sent me 3 sizes just in case..... IS NOTHING SACRED HERE!! HA!! ONce again you have my prayers. Good luck.

I thank you; my HUSBAND thanks you! ;D
You are giving me the reasurrance I need; I am in your debt! I wish that 'deanna14' would pop back in and let me know she's okay after her 1st full week of radiation. Your 'happy ending' would be so good for her to read; it's wonderful to know someone that came through all this and is healthy and happy again. Deanna is only 33, so has the instant menopause that I was spared since 'the change' was years ago for me, long before the cancer. Your cheery posts would be much better for her than my slightly anxious ones! Sex 3 times a week; that sounds good after a month of 'restrictions' with another 4 weeks before I will be back in commission following the surgery. With my luck I will be too sore and dehydrated by then from the radiation to even care! HA!

pjba11

welcome!!
Yes, I hope to hear from her too. We are all in this together. Just another bit of humor (which can be so hard to find some days) When I was being told about the dialators the nurse practioner was trying so hard to get me to understand that I had to use the dialater or have sex 3 time at least 3X week and that it was so very important... she must have said this 6 times... finally I couldn't help myself... I said "well, I will try to cut my husband back to that ,,, but who knows how that will go." The look on her face was priceless. I had to keep a straight face all the way out into the hallway. I think a lot of people getting off the elevator wondered what could be so funny in onlcology. KEEP THE FAITH!!

lindaprocopio

pjba11 said:

welcome!!
Yes, I hope to hear from her too. We are all in this together. Just another bit of humor (which can be so hard to find some days) When I was being told about the dialators the nurse practioner was trying so hard to get me to understand that I had to use the dialater or have sex 3 time at least 3X week and that it was so very important... she must have said this 6 times... finally I couldn't help myself... I said "well, I will try to cut my husband back to that ,,, but who knows how that will go." The look on her face was priceless. I had to keep a straight face all the way out into the hallway. I think a lot of people getting off the elevator wondered what could be so funny in onlcology. KEEP THE FAITH!!

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! That's so great!
OHHHHHH! I hope I get a chance to use that one!! That's hysterical! You made my night!

lindaprocopio

pjba11 said:

welcome!!
Yes, I hope to hear from her too. We are all in this together. Just another bit of humor (which can be so hard to find some days) When I was being told about the dialators the nurse practioner was trying so hard to get me to understand that I had to use the dialater or have sex 3 time at least 3X week and that it was so very important... she must have said this 6 times... finally I couldn't help myself... I said "well, I will try to cut my husband back to that ,,, but who knows how that will go." The look on her face was priceless. I had to keep a straight face all the way out into the hallway. I think a lot of people getting off the elevator wondered what could be so funny in onlcology. KEEP THE FAITH!!

They want to do the CHEMO 1st, THEN the radiation!
Hi, pjba11! (Is there another name I can use??) I'm posting this here, hoping that Deanna and Marge will find their way to this thread, so that we four 'UPSC sisters' will be in one place. I had my initial consultation with my radiology oncologist, and he thinks I should have my chemo 1st before the radiation. He says that radiation sometimes compromises the bone marrow to the point where you are then unable to complete all of the chemo rounds. The radiation doctor echoed what you said: he said he almost never does full abdominal radiation anymore because the side effects are so extreme, and that he would want to do pelvic radiation initially after the chemo, followed by internal radiation. (I guess he saves full abdominal radiation for reoccurance or something!) He also echoed your sentiment that the higher post-surgery CA125 was probably a reaction to the surgery itself and that I shouldn't worry about that. (You are AMAZING! I'm paying him big bucks to tell me what you told me for free! Thank you!) So now I wait for the chemo oncologist to call for a consultation. (I'm no good at waiting; I'll call him if many days go by!) Meanwhile the radiology doc ordered an abdominal / pelvis CT-scan, & chest Xray for this Thursday. Oh, and I never expected the radiation doctor to do an internal exam, but he DID! (even a rectal poke around! EW!) I really wanted to come out of today's appointment with a treatment schedule so that I could plan Thanksgiving and Christmas and know if I will be well enough to cook and entertain. Ah, well. We can do 'take out' Thanksgiving if need be!