The Cure

nanuk

Now that I have your attention: In this year of electing a president, all cancer survivors need to find the candidate who supports Cancer research-ie; stem cells, which could very well bring the cure to all cancer.

The politics of cancer can kill you..of over 10,000 grants from the National Cancer Institute, only 500 even mention metastisis..

There are over 10 million of us out there; those kind of numbers can make the difference between business as usual, or re-starting the war on cancer.
Vote for yourself and the 200,000 newly diagnosed
victims of this monster yearly..

donaldo

Since you posted this political message on all of the boards, I thought a little rebuttal was in order.
This message sounds good as long as you only look at the broad picture and ignore the details. If you’ve actually been paying attention to the issue, none of the politicians have supported a complete ban on stem cell research. In fact, I just donated a bunch for research a few months ago. Only a few politicians even support a total ban on stem cell research on cells from aborted fetuses. The actual aim of the politicians that are in favor of any ban at all is only on banning research on stem cells collected using methods that politicians on both sides of the debate consider immoral. The problem is that the judges appointed by the political party that supports the use of these methods of collecting stem cells for research the most, won’t allow the lawmakers to ban just certain methods of collecting the cells. As a result, this forces an almost total ban on the use of aborted fetus stem cells, in order to prevent the methods that both sides consider immoral. In effect the people supposedly support the stem cell research, are also the ones most responsible for it’s being banned.

The primary method under fire is a method that was developed because the best stem cells for research come from the brains of fetuses 10 months after conception. Since the human gestation period is slightly under 9 months, and sucking brains out of one-month-old babies is illegal, they use the definition of life given by the previously mentioned judges to skirt the law. That definition is that a baby isn’t alive until it is completely out of the mother. They use drugs to delay the labor until the end of the tenth month. At this time they turn the baby so it is delivered feet first, and face down. As you can probably guess, babies don’t fit through the cervix very good at ten months. The baby’s shoulders may need to be crunched a bit, but all they need is access to the base of the scull. They aren’t too concerned about the baby’s pain since they don’t intend to allow it to live. They then shove a tube through the base of the skull and suction out the brain to collect the stem cells. This kills the baby and deflates the head so the baby can be removed the rest of the way, and thrown away. Many of us consider this murder. This procedure is commonly referred to as a partial birth abortion. You’ve probably heard the term used numerous times.

Although I would love it if a cure were found for my cancer, I would rather die from it then have children murdered to find the cure. Since the white house, the congress, and the senate passed the current ban, it appears a majority of the politicians agree.

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donaldo said:

Since you posted this political message on all of the boards, I thought a little rebuttal was in order.
This message sounds good as long as you only look at the broad picture and ignore the details. If you’ve actually been paying attention to the issue, none of the politicians have supported a complete ban on stem cell research. In fact, I just donated a bunch for research a few months ago. Only a few politicians even support a total ban on stem cell research on cells from aborted fetuses. The actual aim of the politicians that are in favor of any ban at all is only on banning research on stem cells collected using methods that politicians on both sides of the debate consider immoral. The problem is that the judges appointed by the political party that supports the use of these methods of collecting stem cells for research the most, won’t allow the lawmakers to ban just certain methods of collecting the cells. As a result, this forces an almost total ban on the use of aborted fetus stem cells, in order to prevent the methods that both sides consider immoral. In effect the people supposedly support the stem cell research, are also the ones most responsible for it’s being banned.

The primary method under fire is a method that was developed because the best stem cells for research come from the brains of fetuses 10 months after conception. Since the human gestation period is slightly under 9 months, and sucking brains out of one-month-old babies is illegal, they use the definition of life given by the previously mentioned judges to skirt the law. That definition is that a baby isn’t alive until it is completely out of the mother. They use drugs to delay the labor until the end of the tenth month. At this time they turn the baby so it is delivered feet first, and face down. As you can probably guess, babies don’t fit through the cervix very good at ten months. The baby’s shoulders may need to be crunched a bit, but all they need is access to the base of the scull. They aren’t too concerned about the baby’s pain since they don’t intend to allow it to live. They then shove a tube through the base of the skull and suction out the brain to collect the stem cells. This kills the baby and deflates the head so the baby can be removed the rest of the way, and thrown away. Many of us consider this murder. This procedure is commonly referred to as a partial birth abortion. You’ve probably heard the term used numerous times.

Although I would love it if a cure were found for my cancer, I would rather die from it then have children murdered to find the cure. Since the white house, the congress, and the senate passed the current ban, it appears a majority of the politicians agree.

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CK801

donaldo said:

Since you posted this political message on all of the boards, I thought a little rebuttal was in order.
This message sounds good as long as you only look at the broad picture and ignore the details. If you’ve actually been paying attention to the issue, none of the politicians have supported a complete ban on stem cell research. In fact, I just donated a bunch for research a few months ago. Only a few politicians even support a total ban on stem cell research on cells from aborted fetuses. The actual aim of the politicians that are in favor of any ban at all is only on banning research on stem cells collected using methods that politicians on both sides of the debate consider immoral. The problem is that the judges appointed by the political party that supports the use of these methods of collecting stem cells for research the most, won’t allow the lawmakers to ban just certain methods of collecting the cells. As a result, this forces an almost total ban on the use of aborted fetus stem cells, in order to prevent the methods that both sides consider immoral. In effect the people supposedly support the stem cell research, are also the ones most responsible for it’s being banned.

The primary method under fire is a method that was developed because the best stem cells for research come from the brains of fetuses 10 months after conception. Since the human gestation period is slightly under 9 months, and sucking brains out of one-month-old babies is illegal, they use the definition of life given by the previously mentioned judges to skirt the law. That definition is that a baby isn’t alive until it is completely out of the mother. They use drugs to delay the labor until the end of the tenth month. At this time they turn the baby so it is delivered feet first, and face down. As you can probably guess, babies don’t fit through the cervix very good at ten months. The baby’s shoulders may need to be crunched a bit, but all they need is access to the base of the scull. They aren’t too concerned about the baby’s pain since they don’t intend to allow it to live. They then shove a tube through the base of the skull and suction out the brain to collect the stem cells. This kills the baby and deflates the head so the baby can be removed the rest of the way, and thrown away. Many of us consider this murder. This procedure is commonly referred to as a partial birth abortion. You’ve probably heard the term used numerous times.

Although I would love it if a cure were found for my cancer, I would rather die from it then have children murdered to find the cure. Since the white house, the congress, and the senate passed the current ban, it appears a majority of the politicians agree.

Donaldo,

In my experience as a researcher, human stem cells can be isolated from the human blastocyst. We isolate the inner cell mass from the blastocyst. They are cells, I am pretty sure these micro size cells cannot feel pain like we do, fully grown human. We are not murdering anyone. Ethics? we are using human cell line to help people who are in dire needs of some kind of cure. These are basically cells we are dealing with. I know for a fact that egg donation places actually throw out unused eggs. For some people, they store their eggs and save it for later usage. In some cases, these eggs were not used for the greater good of mankind, but later thrown away.
So please, these people here needs hope. My father need hope. Million of lives are at stake. Stem cells is the modern science.

would you be so selfish that you would not give up cells that could potentially save million of lives?