Vegetarianism - Concerns

DJC Member Posts: 52
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
I've decided to follow a vegan diet going forward - but only if my oncologist gives me the go ahead this coming Wednesday. I know I need to be very careful about consuming enough in the way of protein replacement foods - and to stay clear of soy products (my tumor was both estrogen and progestrone receptive). Would appreciate additional advice from other Vegans out there. Also, would love to share recipes. Thanks all! Donna


  • DJC
    DJC Member Posts: 52
    I thought I'd pass along this recipe - makes for a great side dish, as well:

    Broccoli Cheese Casserole
    1/2 cup chopped onion
    1/2 cup melted butter, divided
    1 can (10 1/2 ounces) cream of mushroom soup
    1 can (4 ounces) sliced mushrooms, drained
    1 roll (6 ounces) garlic cheese, chopped
    salt and pepper to taste
    1/4 cup slivered almonds
    2 packages (10 ounces each, or about 3 cups total) frozen chopped broccoli
    2 cups herb-seasoned stuffing mix
    Directions for broccoli cheese casserole
    In a heavy skillet, saute onion in 1/4 cup butter until onion is tender. Combine cooked onion, soup, mushrooms, chopped garlic cheese, salt, pepper, almonds, and broccoli; mix well. Spoon broccoli cheese casserole mixture into a lightly buttered 2-quart casserole. Combine stuffing mix and 1/4 cup melted butter; spoon over broccoli casserole. Bake at 350 degrees for 30 minutes.
    Broccoli cheese casserole serves 6.
  • jake10
    jake10 Member Posts: 202
    Is there some connection between Soy and eR/PR receptive tumors? Should we avoid it in our diets. Source? Sorry I have no answers about a vegatarian diet. I live in Wyoming and in the middle of Beef country. Beth
  • DJC
    DJC Member Posts: 52
    jake10 said:

    Is there some connection between Soy and eR/PR receptive tumors? Should we avoid it in our diets. Source? Sorry I have no answers about a vegatarian diet. I live in Wyoming and in the middle of Beef country. Beth

    Hi Beth - I checked with my oncologist yesterday regarding the benefits or adverse effects of dietary soy for postmenopausel women having had estrogen/progestren receptive tumors and he said that since the jury is still out on this issue, he would recommend that I restrict my intact for protein replacement purposes somewhat - eating maybe less than 10 ozs. of soy product (I love tofu) per week. I'm attaching an article below for your reference - I found it on the Itramedicine site: 6/27/2003
    Soy and Breast Cancer in Japanese Women.
    Source: Journal of the National Cancer Institute
    Date Added:6/27/2003
    Date to be Archived:7/27/2003

    The incidence of breast cancer has been increasing steadily for decades. In 1972 when President Nixon declared our national war on cancer, a woman's lifetime risk of developing breast cancer was 1 in 20. Today breast cancer rates have escalated to the point where women's lifetime risk of developing breast cancer is 1 in 8. In the year 2002, the American Cancer Society estimates that nearly 203,500 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer and approximately 39,600 women will die from the disease. This means that approximately every two and a half minutes a woman in the United States is diagnosed with breast cancer and that approximately every thirteen minutes, a woman dies from this disease. Breast cancer has become the second largest cause of cancer death in women, after skin cancer, and the leading cause of death for women between the ages of 35 and 54.
    The primary sign or symptom associated with breast cancer is finding a breast lump. In a survey of post-mastectomy women, the first sign or symptom of breast cancer was identified by the patient herself 80% of the time. In 19% of cases, the first signs were picked up by health professionals. In 1% of cases, the first clues were identified by lovers. An unexpected finding was that pain was the first symptom noted by 13% of the women.1

    A recent study published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute stated that soy has been shown to inhibit breast cancer in laboratory studies, but human evidence is inconsistent. Researchers evaluated soy consumption and breast cancer risk in over 21,000 Japanese women starting in 1990. In 1999, 179 women were diagnosed with breast cancer. After reviewing dietary patterns, the results showed that intake of soy isoflavones and miso soup were associated with a lower risk of breast cancer. However, this association was not seen with consumption of soy foods. This was seen stronger in postmenopausal women. The authors concluded that in Japanese women, high intakes of miso soup and isoflavones were linked to a lower risk of breast cancer.

    Hope this helps. Thanks for your response. Donna

    1. Bullough B. Discovery of the first signs and symptoms of breast cancer. Nurse Pract. Nov1980;5(6):31-2,47.
    2. Yamamoto S, et al. Soy, Isoflavones, and Breast Cancer Risk in Japan. JNCI. Jun 2003;95(12):906-913.
  • inkblot
    inkblot Member Posts: 698 Member
    Hi Donna:

    I'm not a vegan but a lifetime ovo/lacto vegetarian. Simply translated this means that I consume eggs and milk products. However, no meat whatsoever!

    This having been a lifetime choice for me, I've learned to combine my veggies and dairy products in order to get "complete" proteins, daily. Of key importance: COMPLETE proteins! For ovo/lacto's, this is not as complicated as it can be for vegans.

    You may subscribe free, to the online publication of VEGETARIAN TIMES and you'll get a weekly recipe, via your e-mail. I've found many of them to be yummy and all interesting food combinations. All their recipes are not VEGAN, however. You may also like to check out: Lots of good general info there.

    You can also purchase a variety of vegan cookbooks in most larger bookstores. Some used bookstores have some great ones available at just a dollar or two as well. May be worth checking out. Your local library may also have some good vegan lifestyle/cookbooks available.

    My suggestion is that you begin by seeing a nutritionist and have a full workup done to determine your body's current status, so that you know what areas may need special dietary/supplementary attetnion, if any. You will also get the specialists advice on how to best proceed, based upon your blood work analysis etc. You'll want to begin this new dietary approach in optimal condition. Good naturopathic physician's and Nutritionists' are generally up to speed on which supplements us bc survivor's need to avoid, and that's another excellent reason for an initial consultation. Keep in mind that your good health must come first and be very careful not to compromise that as you move to a new dietary approach. The Vegan approach is very strict, as you know, so it's worth taking the extra steps to insure that you don't go forward too quickly.

    Good luck and keep us posted on how it's going!

    Love, light and laughter,