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abita
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Do y'all plan on getting it when your "group" is eligible?

I was thinking today how terrified I get when someone without a mask comes close, and then I worry for 10 days, and how extraordinarilying fabulous it is going to be to have that anxiety lifted from my shoulders! I will still wear a mask until we get the all clear, but will not be as scared. I think my turn should come up in  March.

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When push comes to shove, I just don't trust that they know enough about it to act as a guinia pig.

My husband is going to get it though. 

Of coruse, I don't even get the flu shot. My Rad Onc asked me once, why? And I told him 'I hate needles'. He laughed at the irony, as I had that 10 inch needle (OK, maybe not 10 inches) stuck in my port, at the time. 

I hope you find the relief from the anxiety, when you get the shot. 

Tru

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I think it might also be aout location. I took the trash out the other day, and passed 3 people on the way not wearing masks, which is indicative of how many people are aaround me in NYC. At Msk yesterday, I searched long and hard for a seat where no one was within the 6 feet, and someone put a man with his mask down in a wheelchair about 12 inches from me.  I have never gotten a flu shot. But I live in a city that less than a year ago had refrigerator trucks to hold the morgue overflow.

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I live in a small rural town. While I occasionally go in to work part time at a little health food shop; the only other place I come into contact with people, would be Walmart, and I go as early in the day as possible to avoid them. 

I think I might feel differently if I were in constant contact with people.  I mean, I am nervous enough at the health food shop that I have given my hours to a new girl. I am in at the moment doing inventory. Still, we see less than 20 people in a day, so I am definitely not over-exposed. 

I think you are wise to get the shot. Peace of mind to start with, is worth it. 

Tru

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Thanks. I was actually not going to as I was worried about there not being studies on how it might affect my chemo drug. But that mask down person next to me happened while I was waiting for oncologist, and after talking to him, I felt better about getting it. 

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Personally, I am all for the vaccine.  I will get it as soon as it is available to me.  I haven't travelled to hike since June, and that is my passion.  The vaccine offers me some potential for normalcy.  I am so sick of living in isolation and only going out in public once a week (I still walk in the open space 2-3 times a day).  It is a highly individual choice, but I am all-in.

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I get that! I would like to go for a walk and not panic. I don't even go on walks anymore because of how many I pass without masks. I live in a dense neighborhood. Even my recyclables get a little piled up because I get so anxious just passing the people in my building who ignore the rules of my city and building and don't wear masks.

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To me, masks are all about respect.  I will plan to don one when I am near others, even after I get a vaccine.  I live in a less densely populated area with a mask mandate, but many flaunt their violation of the mask ordinance.  Luckily, I am able to stay 100 feet or more away from them.  I do have N-95 masks that I wear to the store, as a number of people simply wear single layer bandanas or have their masks below their noses.  It is a crazy world to have to deal with these coronavirus issues as well as cancer.

(revised in respect for the political sensitivities of some members of the forum)

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Opposite observation here.

I will say where I live it is mostly young people, bernie and biden supporters that do not wear them.  Its like they don't care about the virus.  Also my in laws are die hard democrats and believe the mask mandates are silly.

I wear mine and stay far away from anyone wearing them or not.  I feel I can't be to careful because this virus is way to unpredictable to be otherwise.  

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Mmm, yes, I should have known better than to dip into politics.  But if you look at the various presidential rallies I think you can observe which political group was more likely to follow the mask recommendations.  With that, I will close this topic and not revisit it.

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Oh gosh, I didn't mean to sound political.  

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I'll never forget two vaccines, one was the pneumonia and the other shingles, and of course the flu shot.  After both the pneumonia and shingles they told me six months after getting them that they were not very effective and needed a new course of shots.  I'll wait awhile.

Kim

Jnap26
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I feel you should get the vaccine when available. I already had my first one. I work in a hospital and see how devastating this virus is. Most of my coworkers already had their second shot. I'm not aware of any bad side effects. 

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Thanks for the encouragement and reality check. I wasn't so much afraid of side effects as afraid it would intefere with the chemo drug getting its work done.

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I am a polio survivor - born in 1955 just as the vaccine was being distributed. I had it as a 6 month old baby - spent time in an iron lung with no movement.  It totally impacted the course of my life.  So I am very pro-vaccine.

I am in the 1b group in Texas and have already had the first dose at UTSW where I get my cancer treatment.  Only real side-effect was a sore arm for a few days.  Since I now have mets in my lungs, I would rather have whatever protection I can get for those lungs - they are important :)  My wife is a teacher and I watch grandsons, so there's that. 

The hope for me is that with the vaccine I'll be able to be a little more engaged in the life I had 9 months ago.  If my stage 4 diagnosis means my life might be shorter, I have a lot to pack in still!  The bucket list is long and hard to work on when I'm staying at home and away from the general public.  I want to live my life while I can.

Just my 2 cents!

pamness
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Could not agree with you more.  And wishing you the best for the future. 

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I was in the military in 1977 and was forced (ordered) to receive the swine flu vaccination.  At the time there was considerable debate about the effects of the vaccine (death) and that was concerning.  However, my greater objection was just like Tru's - I don't like needles.  I complied and I survived with no effects.  INCIDENTALLY, I HAVE NOT HAD ANOTHER FLU SHOT SINCE THEN NOR HAVE I HAD THE FLU SINCE THEN.  Could be genetics, lifestyle or luck.  Regardless, I will decline the Covid vaccine.

My place in life (healthwise) is also a factor.  My rectal cancer is in remission and I am not undergoing any chemo/radiation treatment.  If I were then I would probably reconsider.

In my opinion, the choice of receiving the vaccine should remain with the individual.  Present the facts, void of politicalization, and let the individual citizen consider the risk/reward in the context of his/her situation.

jIM

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Good to see you here. Glad you are in remission. 

Tru

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I am so happy to see you and very glad you are well!

pamness
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I will absolutely get the vaccine as soon as I am able ok in.  I didn't survive stage 3 colon cancer, with surgery chemo and radiation, and then, breast cancer, lumpetomy and radiation, to then end up on a ventilator or with long term problems from a virus that has a vaccine.   Let me be really blunt, why on earth would you not have the vaccine.  Have you not lost enough of your life to cancer, a horrible disease, with treatments that are necessary but awful.  Not to mention, not having the vaccine, increases your chance of getting Covid and passing it along to someone else who might die.  

feckcancer
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Pamness. totally agree with you. i will be getting vacine as soon as it is available here in New Zealand. why would i not? my cancer was caused by a virus... Sealed 

and while i am waiting for the vacine to get here masks, gloves, social distancing, hand sanitiser & hand washing, flu jabs, vitamin D, C 's  ...you name it, i'm doing it , not only for me but for everyone i love ~ and we haven't even got the virus here in the community in New Zealand. and we are doing our best not to either.

 

Stay safe 

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Obiviously this is a very sensitive topic from several aspects and I did not/do not mean to stir up anything, but this is my logic about the vaccine.  Allow those who want the vaccine to receive it.  Allow those who don't want the vaccine the freedom to refuse it.  If the vaccine is truly preventative then henceforth the only people who will host the virus will be those who elected to not take the vaccine.  The outcome will only affect them, not the vaccinated.  They will either die from it or not (statistically, not) and herd immunity for this virus will be achieved by the combined efforts of the vaccinated and the non vaccinated.

Each of us should be allowed the freedom to decide and then the responsibility to accept the consequences of our decision.  Much like saying no to chemo.

Jim

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Hi Jim

You did not 'stir up anything'.

There are a few of us who commented on not wanting the vaccine.

Tru

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Just as we make choices on our treatment for cancer, we each will be making a choice regarding the vaccine.

They are both influenced by our personal circumstances and beliefs.

There is no right or wrong, as long as we make our choice based on being informed.

Unfortunately, there will probably come a time in the not too distant future where others will want to force that choice to be take the vaccine.  I know that some employeers will make it manditory for a person to come back to work, and the school systems are already discussing manditory for returning to in school studies...even though it has not been well tested on those under 16 years old.

All of us must be careful about the news we read.  When in doubt, talk to your medical folks, who hopefully know you best.

May all avoid the virus...no matter how that is accomplished.

Marie who loves kitties

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I would get the vaccine, not a problem.  In fact I was offered it.  

The reason why I am not getting it right now is for a few reasons.

The major one is that vaccines and the distribution is still early.  There is a long way to go and right now there is effectively a shortage for all intents and purposes.  My wife is a front line worker in a hospital (She got her first one) and people like her need the vaccine.  I am allso part of the 911 system, an EMT,  amd I know EMTs who are having issues getting a vaccine.  I will continue to isolate as much as possible. There are a couple of tangential issues that MAY (not definate) but MAY apply to people on chemotherapy.  Not in terms of being dangerous as much as chemo makes it less effective. 

I had the flu shot, no issue. I would take the Covid vaccine if it was readily available.

I was also in a drug trial and tried to get into another drug trial.  I have another drug trial I am jumping into when my current chemo stops working.  In terms of adverse effecsts and "danger" these cancer drug trials are a heck of a lot riskier than where we are now with the vaccine.  The chemotherapy we subject ourselves to is scarier, at least to me.

 

Real Tar Heel
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I'm getting it ASAP. My hospital sent out notices that they will be in touch when it is my time. I don't know what group I'll be in since I'm not currently showing signs of disease.

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Found out today one of my dr's got the second shot last week and he is so sick and having mental/concentration issues also.

I am waiting to see what Johnson & Johnson comes out with also.  They claim theirs will not be so severe.  We'll see.

As for now it was recommended that I not take it.  

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I'm getting it. I miss being able to hug and kiss my family. If the vaccine will help me, I will get it. I mean, if I'm willing to inject poison to fight cancer, what's a little ole vaccine.

I know there are lots of people who are anti-vaccine and I respect their opinion. My concern is if we all don't get it, will the virus mutate and get worse? Pretty scary thought. But everyone is different. Good luck to all!

k

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https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/what-people-cancer-should-know-about-covid-19-vaccines

Intersting including discussion of research and what is being looked at.

feckcancer
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Thank you for posting that. i am going to ask my oncologist what he thinks i should do . whatever he recomends i am going to do it. 

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I was the same. I was hesitant until I spoke to my oncologist and he explained why he thought it was safe for me. Obviously, you can never be 100 sure of anything.

I mean oxaliplatin sent me on a journey with the rapid response team to Emergency Dept on the 6th round, and then for the next year, kept me alive by shrinking and keeping my liver tumors to foci cells.

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