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Feelingalone74
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Hey Ladies   

Any suggestions  on  how  to  get  through  insomnia ? 

Only sleeping  2 hours a night for weeks  now,

Reluctantly  got a script for  ambien this week, 3 nights later  and it's  not helping,

I've been  doing meditation  for deep sleep  from  you tube but relaxes me but doesn't  put  me to sleep.

I hate putting  things in my body so I  so wish I could  sleep . 

The anxiety  of treatment  starting  is getting  the  best of me

 

zsazsa1
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What I found useful was a laptop playing David Attenborough nature shows.  They were calming, pretty, and his voice was calming, droning.  They were just interesting enough to distract my mind, to let me fall asleep.

I didn't use meds for sleep - too afraid I'd become dependent upon them.  But I AM dependent upon "Frozen World" and the other "Our Planet" videos!

Feelingalone74
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Zsazsa yes that is what I'm afraid of becoming dependent on something. I will try the nature shows that you suggested and see how that goes. Thanks so much

 

MAbound
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I'm not sure that a sleep med addresses the anxiety that you are dealing with and perhaps that is why it is not working. That would be a question to ask your pharmacist so you can go back to your doctor about it. There are others who have had to take anxiety meds to help get them through all of the unknowns and waiting on the front end of treatment, so maybe they'll be along to help with that. There is no shame in needing help coping with this because it's scary stuff and rest is so important to getting through it all.

I hate taking meds like you, so while this may sound crazy, what helped me was saying thank you to God each night for all the good things I've had in my life. I tried to name each memory, so it helped to keep me focused on the positives and reduced my anxiety. The older you are, the more ground you have to cover and I found myself falling asleep before I could finish. 

 

Feelingalone74
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Mabound , yes I think you may be right that what I really need is anxiety medicine and not sleep medication. Because all of the no sleep deprivation is a result of anxiety. And a nurse  did suggest that yesterday but of course I'm so reluctant that I declined her talking to my doctor about it. I'm thinking that I'm going to have to given even though I don't want to. I do try to thank God each day and for everything that I have and had throughout my life and for helping me get through each day but unfortunately even replaying good memories in my head doesn't put me back to sleep

MoeKay
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After completing treatment, I was very anxious and unable to sleep.  I think part of it was due to being thrown into surgical menopause and the other part was worry over the possibility of recurrence.  I too do not like taking medication, so I thought I could tough it out, but I was wrong.  I couldn't function in work and the quality of my life deteriorated significantly.  I tried a number of things suggested short of medication, such as relaxation tapes, warm milk, and evening yoga classes, to name a few.  None of those things helped at all.  I was eventually able to break the no-sleep cycle with Ativan, but because I am so anti-med, and because Ativan is habit-forming, I was very cautious to not stay on it any longer than necessary by carefully weaning down the dose as my sleep improved. 

Sweet dreams!

Feelingalone74
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Moekay, I think you're right that the surgical menopause is not helping things either. I have been trying to tough it out as you said you did but I'm now going on the third week of no sleep and it's definitely catching up to me . Today I'm very exhausted. And my husband is worried that if I don't get sleep but I won't be well enough to get the port put in next week and be strong enough to withstand treatment the following week. The nurse that I spoke to you on the phone yesterday suggested Ativan. I might have to give in though I don't want to. Eere you able to drive and go about daily activities went on this? 

I hope to have sweet dreams  soon. 

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Armywife
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I'm sorry you're not sleeping.  I know that well - I started having insomnia even before diagnosis and then of course the anxiety made it worse.  I've been on ambien for years - my doctor said that restorative sleep is that important.  I keep thinking I need to wean from it, but honestly I don't want to think too hard at night so I allow myself that respite.  It still works for me, but I know it doesn't work for my husband.  Do ask your doctor to help you find something that does work.  It's important to rest during this time.  You're going to be ok!

Feelingalone74
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Armywife, I'm sorry u endured insomnia as well I know you're right that sleep and rest is so important to keep up my strength. Thank you for your continuing Positive Vibes and reassuring me that I will be okay. I've only been taking the Ambien for four nights now so maybe it's not then enough time?

It means a lot you ladies are all amazing and your advice and support help me so much!

Hugs to u all!

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Armywife
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Honestly if it hasn't worked yet for you, it may not. It worked the first night for me.  I believe for most people Ambien works within an hour.  Even after all these years, I fall asleep pretty quickly with it most nights.  It gets me at least four or five hours and then my sleep is light and full of really vivid dreams, which is more exhausting than being awake.  Have you tried taking any melatonin? Someone told me you can take up to 10mg for a more natural sleep.  I haven't tried it yet.  Also, lots of people swear by benadryl or tylenol pm.  

Feelingalone74
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Armywife ,  I think your right it doesn't  seem  like  it's going to help me , I wish I could take  melatonin as I'd rather take something  natural    but I  also have a blood disorder that I have to take Warfarin for a certain medications interfere with it and melatonin was one of them cuz that was going to be my first choice to try.

I may try Tylenol  PM . 

Thanks 

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BluebirdOne
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It came with a vengeance during menopause. I tried everything, drugs, exercise, diet. I had the kind of insomnia where I did not sleep ALL NIGHT, at worst, and at best I got few hours a night. Long before cancer. I tried Ambien, (terrible side effects, but works if you want to walk around half drugged).  What is worse, no sleep vs. drug induced day time misery? Take your pick. I also during those early years used Ativan, which initially works, then the effect declines and you can become dependent upon it. I learned that after a while on it when i started having extremely vivid nightmares that it is time to stop for a month or two. I became a resident of Colorado where I could use THC 10 mg. gummies that actually worked. Not perfect, but I could take them for months on end with out having to stop. I could fall asleep by timing when i took the gummy, and for the most part, stay asleep. Nothing has ever given me a reliable 8 hour sleep. Mostly I am grateful to fall asleep, as that was a big problem before. Staying asleep is another story, no matter what I take. When I was diagnosed with cancer, I was eagerly taking ANYTHING, DRUGS, THC, to finally get some respite from insomnia. It is a terrible and ongoing problem for me. Everyone reacts differently, but the emotional stress of cancer and not sleeping so you have some time to process your condition is vital. Take what works for you. I am now taking a combination of THC and Trazadone, an anti-anxiety and anti-depressant, not relying on the Trazadone as much. For me, being able to fall asleep is key to my sanity as laying awake, hour after hour after hour after an exhausting day is torture. Falling asleep fairly easily, even if I don't stay asleep all night has worked out better as at least I get some relief, some sleep and the night time terrors can go to sleep as well. Luckily, when I do stop the drugs, I have had no withdrawl or side effects, so I don't worry about addiction. If you are legally able, do try THC gummies. I can't recommend breaking the law. In the end having some good nights when I was able to fall asleep for 2-4 hours is key to actual survival. I also listen to podcasts where I have learned which ones are so boring that they put me to sleep in minutes! Remember that you need sleep to heal your body, and sleep to give your mind a respite. Puting a few things into it to achieve those short term goals is not wrong, especially considering what we go through with treatment. I will take almost anything that works well, even if it is only for a month. Good luck to you.

Denise 

Feelingalone74
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Thanks Denise, you're right sleep is so essential for healing. The lack if sleep over the last week has finally caught up to me. I fall asleep easily but can only sleep for 2 hours and wide awake the rest of the night with a racing mind. I know  I definitely  don't want to take any illegal drugs  and will only take what the doctor  prescribes.

Thanks for wishing me good luck!

 

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BluebirdOne
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so hard to deal with. This is totally normal and know that as time goes on and your knowledge of your treatments increases, the terror descreases in direct proportion, at least for me it did. I am one year out from dx and surgery and probably the first four to five months of dealing with the most emotionally and physically terrifying part of my life that brought me to where I am now. The physical stress for many of us pass, but the emotional aspect is a daily struggle for me. I can't speak for others. Coming to terms with your individual dx, treatment and prognosis will take all of your strength and reserves in the early days. For me, the stress of treatment retreated, but I was and still am emotionally fragile, but compared to one year ago I can truly think of myself as Super Woman, able to leap tall buildings, I am faster than a speeding bullet, and I am more powerful than a locomotive! We all deal with this in our own ways, commesurate with our dx and treaments. I have come to terms with my new life which means I am totally in denial most of the time, because you have to when thinking positive. The point is that we all develop coping mechanisms and as time goes on it does become easier for most of us. You are not alone, your feelings are so very normal and we are here for you.

Denise 

Feelingalone74
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Denise thanks for the affirmation  that my feelings  are normal. It sure is a lot to deal with....emotionally  draining . Time heals all things and I'll be  glad when I  can put at least the physical  aspect behind me and only have  to  deal with the emotional . 

 So grateful  for all u ladies that are here for me,

Fridays Child
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I totally love that comment! 

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When you think about it, "thinking positive" is a form of denial of your actual condition. The range of my denial is about as long as the Nile itself. I am 1a, NED, (whoppee, I am going to live forever), but I had UPSC, which is notorious for coming back even with a 1a dx (Does this ache or pain mean it is back?) So I just keep thinking that it won't happen to me, I am cured, when is my next vacation, but always in the back of my mind is the fact that I had better get the most of of my life... Denial does help me to live my life with a new attitude, so in that regard I believe denial works for me. 

MoeKay
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The National Alliance of Mental Illness (NAMI) website on Ativan (lorazepam) states the following:  "Do not drive a car or operate machinery until you know how this medication affects you because you may notice that you feel tired or dizzy."  See:

https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Treatment/Mental-Health-Medications/Types-of-Medication/Lorazepam-(Ativan)

As I'm sure you're aware, everyone reacts differently to medication.  It's been close to 20 years since I took Ativan, but I remember that it was around the holidays when I began taking it.  I was off work at that time, so I didn't drive for the first week or so and by that time I knew that I was not tired or dizzy and that my reaction time was not impaired. 

If nothing else works for you and you do end up on anti-anxiety medication, I would approach this option as a short-term solution.  I never had sleep problems before or after this episode, and my goal when I started the Ativan was to find the fastest way to break the no-sleep cycle and wean off the medication. 

Best of luck to you.

Feelingalone74
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Thanks MoeKay! I reluctantly got a script for the something yesterday at my chemo teaching appointment. I  took one last night. It did not help I still woke up several times during the night awake since 4 AM. I hate taking these kinds of medications and then if they're not working makes it even worse they only gave me four hoping that if I got back on a good sleep pattern and I would not need them. I do not want to take anything long-term or run the risk of getting addicted to anything if that's not my style of life. Interesting enough they said if I took it by 10 I would be able to drive my car the next morning. I don't feel dizzy or light yeaded just a headache from no sleep. I did drive my car to an appointment this morning I made it home okay. Thanks for wishing me luck Hugs

oldbeauty
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I was prescribed Temazepam (I forget dosage) when I had my first recurrence while living overseas in 2012.  The doctor said it provided a full night's gentle sleep and I'd wake up the next day refreshed without feeling hung over or dopey.  That, in fact, was my experience and I highly recommend it.  I told my US doctor what I wanted for sleep aid when I had my second recurrence in 2017.  While she was not unfamiliar with the drug, my impression was that it was not a "go to" drug for US doctors.  I did not take it for very long and I've used it only sporadically since and not recently.  But I suffered no ill effects and no seduction into dependence (unlike Oxycodone which I've had after shoulder surgery and that stuff wants to suck you in very quickly).  Sleep is essential for healing and mental health.  Please talk to your nurse and doctor about your problem and explore the medication possibilities.  You are unlikely to get hooked, given your reluctance to use these substances.  But you probably need something that will work for you to break the cycle.  Best wishes, Oldbeauty 

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It's a drug class that classically causes dependence.  I think we're all just different how things affect us. I relied on oxycodone with every chemo cycle, but never felt any inclination to use it beyond that. I was so grateful my gyn onc never questioned all my refills!

DebiR
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I also relied on oxycodone with my chemo cycles.  The bone pain was so bad I couldn't have managed without it.  With the oxycodone it was very bearable.  I started taking it on day two a couple times a day and then tapered off to just one at bedtime.  After two weeks I wasn't taking any and then started again with my next chemo.  

Debi

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Sorry for your insomnia.  I feel your pain.  I've been working some with my doctor as well as scounting around for solutions.  Right now I get some sleep (but very little REM sleep I feel) using a combination of 5 mg of melatonin and 5 mg of Ativan.  My PCP said we'll work on weaning me after treatment but sleep and treatment are key for now.  It's not like it's producing a very desirable result, just better than no sleep.  Hope you are able to find something as even some sleep is a definite improvement.

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I don’t have major insomnia but sometimes have trouble falling asleep and staying asleep. It may seem like something too simple but I take a cal/mag/zinc supplement on those nights and for some reason it usually works. 

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Or an antihistamine like that.  And I read that blue light from computer screens is causing some sleep disturbance.  Reading your computer or phone at night, or before you go to bed might make sleep more difficult.  I think you can use lots of different things, not just one when you have such sleep problems.  Trazadone  is a medication that helps sleep and is not in any way habit forming.  It is something else you can add in.  The anxiety that makes sleep difficultcan be treated with anti anxiety medication.  If you try not to take it every night it might not stop working.  Or become habituated.  I changed beds for a time, to get away from the anxiety and it helped.  I hope you can find a solution.  I read that meditation can be as simple as repeating a poem over and over.  I used the Lord's prayer, but other poems would work.  Repeat them over an dover in your head.  My poem would be "The Daffodils" by Wordsworth.

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Ive had xanax off and on for five years. And while it has a reputation for being  addictive, for me, it is not. I may need to take it for a week or two and then not again for several months. I don't know what triggers my anxiety. Certainly cancer does but sometimes I'm anxious even when things are going smoothly. When suffering anxiety I become depressed, terribly sleep deprived, cranky and have problems making decisions. I'll resist but finally take xanax for a short period and "voila" I seem to do better. I am on a low dose and can snap it in half during the day and go about my business without problems, driving included. My radiation oncologist suggested it when I was describing problems sleeping and concentrating. Maybe ask your doctor about it.

Feelingalone74
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Ok thanks for the suggestion jan9wils

A question....did u get chemo while receiving radiation? I will be getting 5 days a week radiation and with that 1 day cystplasm chemo for 5 weeks. That seems like a lot for 1 body!!!! Just wondering if anyone else gir chemo during radiation. 

Fridays Child
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At the beginning my treatment was five weeks of daily radiation and one day a week I had Taxol and Carboplatin.  After I finished that I had six Taxol/Carbo treatments three weeks apart.

MAbound
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It's never a bad thing to understand the whys of something being recommended for you. The go-to chemo seems to be to start with Carboplatin and Taxol every 3 weeks for 6 doses and tweek it if you have problems with it.

Did you have a tumor assay or genomic testing done that pointed to a different regimen being more effective for you? I confess to being curious.

Radiation generally can happen before chemo, in the middle of it, or after depending on your doctor.

Different doctors have different philosophies and preferences for treatment and maybe your doctor is up on the most current research and going in a new direction from what us "old timers" have had. The science is always evolving. In any case, it's not too much to ask why your doctor is giving you one treatment and not another and your friends here are always curious to learn something new. ;-).

Feelingalone74
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Hi Mabound  I will question my GYN oncologist again.  when I asked that they said this was the best treatment for me . 

I don't mind sharing. I was diagnosed with stage 3 endometrial cancer I have to look back to see what the grade is. The cancer was in my endometrial wall and my ovary. They were puzzled why someone of my age and stature had gotten it . In short , the pathology report said I had 2 of the 4 factors for a genetic disposition to endometrial cancer so they changed their original plan of 6 rounds of carboplatin/ taxol to 2 then the radiation with cystplasm then 2 more rounds of carboplatin taxol. After reading many comments on another discussion board I'm questioning whether I should wait to have radiation because it can only be done 1 x and should I "save" it. I'm going to ask for a meeting with my healthcare team. 

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jan9wils
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I did not have chemo with radiation. I had radiation first. Then when I had recurrence I had chemo. However I have heard of the protocol you are describing and it IS a lot for one body. Actually, any radiation or chemo is a lot for one body! I will be checking back to see how you are doing so please keep us updated.

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dgrdalton
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Taking Unisom, doxylamine succinate, has helped me to get to sleep and also go back to sleep if I wake during the night. My daughter is a pediatric RN and her doctor said she could take it when she was pregnant. I also take magnesium citrate or glycinate in the evening. Insomnia was a problem before cancer and became worse after. During chemo, I took Ativan and it helped. Hope you find something to help.

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After reading dgrdalton's suggestion, I bought some of the Unisom SleepTabs, which contain the Doxylamine Succinate antihistamine. While I've used Benedryl occasionally when I've had problems sleeping, the Unisom SleepTab knocked me out much more quickly and enabled me to fall back to sleep right away after a bathroom visit. I slept like a log that night.

Although Benedryl works okay for me, I'm a new convert to Unisom!

I should note that some of the Unisom products use the same antihistamine as Benedryl (Diphenhydramine), so check the box label to make sure you're buying the one with Doxylamine Succinate if Benedryl hasn't been effective for you.

Thanks for the post, dgrdalton!

Feelingalone74
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Thank u for all your suggestions. I know sleep is so important so I wish I could just stay asleep. Falling asleep is the easy part but  only lasts for about 1.5 hours. The ativan prescribed to me helped in the beginning though I woke up I could fall back asleep easily and got more sleep but now it seems to not be working after a week. So I stopped taking it. Took Tylenol PM when I woke up at midnight last night and It got me a few more hours of sleep. I have tried Unisom and I may go back to it seem to give me the same results at the ativan and would rather take that than a controlled substance. I will call my doctor's today to see what they say. 

I was how did you get out for a longer walk last evening and was hoping that would tire my body it seem to help much. 

Ugh!

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BluebirdOne
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THC gummies. It is what saved me. 10mg. I have had horrible insomnia forever and THC is the only rememdy that actually kept me asleep, where I had no side effects, and was reliable night after night. Ativan works for about one month for me, then I get vivid dreams and I know it is time to stop. I also take Trazadone when I am away from the state where I can legally have THC gummies,or I am traveling. I never break the law.  I also have heard that CBD in what ever form you can access it, is also effective for some people. My daughter is a hemp farmer so she has recommended that as well as the THC. Insomnia is the worst. Wishing you relief. 

 

Denise 

Feelingalone74
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Ugh! Insomnia is not getting any better. I've been taking 1 mg of Ativan and it gets me 3 or 4 hours sleep. Last night only 1.5 hrs and then maybe an hour.  

My primary doctor was out of the office this week. Saw a PA yesterday.  She prescribed Trazodone.  Reluctantly didnt go get the prescription for it as it says it could take up to a week or 2 for the effects to work. Debating about trying it this weekend or waiting for my primary to be back Monday to be sure this is the right med for me. I just wish something would help get me back in a good sleep pattern and get off the med. I'm hoping to be able to go to work a little starting in September if I can during treatment and dont want to be on Ativan.Wondering if I should get a referral to a specialist who specializes in insomnia. 

On my good days I'd really like to wake up feeling well rested and begin my day. ..especially getting out for a walk before it gets to hot but I'm too tired to most days. 

Fortunately once I get up and going I'm ok. And amaze myself how much I can do sleep deprived. Occasionally rest (I can never fall asleep) during the day. 

 

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LisaPizza
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The delay may be more for the antidepressant effects than for the sedative side effect you're going for.

Feelingalone74
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Any ideas of something natural to take for sleep?

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I'm going to try Unisom. Luckily for me, once I fall asleep, I stay asleep (I credit the CBD oil for that) BUT that "falling asleep" might not be until after 3 a.m. or after! Around midnight, I become wide awake. My whole life I have been a night person. The best job I ever had was working 6 p.m. to midnight proofing environmental health reports for an insurance company. I worked that shift so we didn't need a babysitter but it felt so good. I remember how miserable I was when I switched to working the daytime. 

I woke up today at 1:20 p.m. If I lived alone I really wouldn't care but my husband is one of those people is up by 6:30 every morning! He needs very little sleep while I need at least nine hours. If only I could fall asleep by midnight!!  Hopefully, the Unisom will help because I've tried just about everything else.  I'll report back.

Love,

Eldri

Feelingalone74
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Hi Eldri, im the opposite. I can fall asleep but just cant stay asleep.I tried unisom but it didnt help me. I only slept for an hour an half at best.

Thank u for your suggestion though. 

Warmly, Michelle 

Feelingalone74
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Hi Eldri, im the opposite. I can fall asleep but just cant stay asleep.I tried unisom but it didnt help me. I only slept for an hour an half at best.

Thank u for your suggestion though. 

Warmly, Michelle 

MAbound
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Eldri and others who have been dealing with this for so long....have you ever asked your doctor about or considered going to a sleep clinic? With all of the trial and error that seems to be getting employed looking for relief, I wonder if some are creating worse problems for themselves. Perhaps some guidance from a place that specializes in sleep disorders would give guidance to what would be a customized way to deal with insominia for an individual's particular circumstances. Sometimes you can exacerbate problems trying to figure this out by yourself. 

Feelingalone74
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MAbound, good suggestion and article. I told my husband this very thing this weekend that my primary needs to refer me to a sleep specialist to help me with my insomnia. Instead of being prescribed anxiety medications that only last up to 4 hours. I couldn't get in with my primary this past week and I saw a PA and told her the med I was on doesnt help much leaving me with only a few hrs sleep and that I don't want to be taking a controlled substance.  She prescribed me a med that is made for depression but she claims they use it widely to treat insomnia patients. I picked up the prescription but haven't taken it. I'm not sure why there isnt something for insomnia itself  .yes I am anxious from this diagnosis but the help I'm asking my doc for is the sleep problem. I also learned this weekend from my Facebook friends that menopause and insomnia can often be linked together.  Many said since menopause they only sleep a few hours. Not sure why my docs arent considering the fact that due to my hysterectomy in June that I'm going to experience symptoms from being surgically induced menopause.  I already have the hot flashes so perhaps this insomnia is more to do with menopause.  I dont know but 1 thing for sure as soon as I can get in with my doctor in telling her I don't want these controlled substances and refer me to a sleep specialist who have expertise in the field . 

Thank you always for your wisdom and advixe.

Warmly,  Michelle 

MAbound
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Insomnia is such a complicated issue that it makes sense that it might take someone who is a specialist to figure it out for an individual. It's just a bit scary to see how some jump from one thing to another trying to find something that works for their particular circumstances. Because it's complicated, it might be a bit much to expect a primary to have the right answer. Having had a prolonged dance with no sleep during chemo, I sure can appreciate the desparation part of insomnia and just can't stand the idea of anyone dealing with it long term night after night. I threw the suggestion out there in hopes it might turn on a light bulb for anyone who hasn't considered it. I sure didn't think of it earlier.

Feelingalone74
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I agree it might be a bit to complex for a primary doc and them grasping straws and trying different things for the patient is t any good.  Seeing someone whose is expertise in sleep disorders definitely makes more sense.

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MoeKay
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A sleep specialist is a great idea, MAbound.  Here's a link to information on insomnia from the National Sleep Foundation, which might also be helpful:

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/sleep-disorders/insomnia

 

zsazsa1
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Michelle, did the PA prescribe trazodone?  It's definitely worth a try.  Look at it this way - the situation you are going through is what's causing the severe insomnia.  Hopefully, after you are through treatment, and begin to trust that you are going to survive this, the insomnia will lessen.  So it's a temporary condition, and using sleep medication temporarily is appropriate.

Trazodone is an older antidepressant that has a very welcome side effect of making many patients sleepy.  For many people, it works well for insomnia, and also helps a bit with depression and anxiety.  A relatively low dose of it can be very effective for sleep.

Feelingalone74
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Zsazsa1 She did but I'm nervous to take it so I haven't yet. The side effects , like most med, are enough to scare anyone. 

I wish their was something all natural. I dont want these kinds of meds in my body. 

I'm hoping to get a referral to a sleep specialist. 

barnyardgal
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I don't usually have trouble sleeping. But I found melatonin works great when I need it. They have it in different dosages, and I found 5 mg right for me, as the 10 mg really zonked me out so much I had trouble getting up with the alarm.

 

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