Anti-inlfammatory?

SandiaBuddy
SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,262 Member
edited April 2019 in Colorectal Cancer #1

I have been having quite a bit of leg pain lately, possibly sciatica, or a different pinched nerve.  I used to take aspirin liberally, but I have been warned to limit my use because of the risk of bleeding post-surgery.  I tried iburprofen, but post-chemo, it caused some weird symptoms, so that is out.  Prednisone is effective, but I would prefer to stay off it.  I take boswellia, with uncertain results.  Does anyone know of an effective anti-inflammatory that does not cause bleeding that might work whether prescription or natural supplement?  Thank you.

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  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,626 Member
    CBD

    I have heard great things about CBD for many ailments. 

    You obviously don't have a weight problem - which is what causes my sciatica - but finding out what is triggering it, would be helpful. 

    Tru

  • Ruthmomto4
    Ruthmomto4 Member Posts: 707 Member
    I just started taking CBD oil

    My knee has been bothering me for a year. I never go to the dr and I was taking a ridiculous amount of ibuprofen. So I started it last Sunday, by Tuesday my knee pain was gone. I have had zero side effects, I take a dropperful under my tongue once daily.

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,390 Member
    Aleve

    Urgh, my computer died when typing.  I assure you Sandia that what I had was extraordinarily brilliant.  But instead you need to be satisfied with the following (more shorthand, sorry) Cool

    I use Aleve, it is non Aspirin  

    https://www.aleve.com/faq/ingredients/

    It may cause bleeding, but I think it is not the same risk as aspirin, which is a pretty common thing to happen.

    https://www.drugs.com/aleve.html

    I use Aleve now and again between my spinal tumors and exercise.  I try to avoid the prescriptions as much as possible and Prendisone is nasty.  I used Dexamethasone before I had radiation for my spine and after radiation.  It helped.  And whatever they are pumping in my chemo seems to also calm things down for a week or so - one pf the perks of being back on the bottle ;)

    Acupuncture has also helped a lot for me, been basically doing that for a few months and maybe popped two Aleve.  Check out TENS units, they help many people, I need to look into them.  Also yoga can help with the pain you have. Find a GOOD yoga instructor (there are bad ones out there who do the "I am going to be a yoga instructor and I have this certification" even if they have a couple hundred hours of training) who can check you out.

    Of course get this all cleared by your MD, but you knew I would have to add that and I know you are smart enough that I really did not have to Foot in Mouth

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,262 Member
    Trubrit said:

    CBD

    I have heard great things about CBD for many ailments. 

    You obviously don't have a weight problem - which is what causes my sciatica - but finding out what is triggering it, would be helpful. 

    Tru

    Cause

    I have a bone growth on one of the discs that likely pinches a nerve.  I am going in on the 10th for another spine consultation, but if I can get a hold of it before the appointment, I would be happy.  The less medical treatment I get, the happier I am.

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,262 Member

    I just started taking CBD oil

    My knee has been bothering me for a year. I never go to the dr and I was taking a ridiculous amount of ibuprofen. So I started it last Sunday, by Tuesday my knee pain was gone. I have had zero side effects, I take a dropperful under my tongue once daily.

    Interesting

    That is something I will look into.  Only medical marijuana is legal in my state, so I will ask.

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,262 Member

    Ginger Tea

    Not sure if you like the taste of ginger but ginger is not only good for nausea but also known for anti-inflammatory agent. You can cut the ginger into slices and boil in water for 10-20 minutes, depends on how much of intensity you prefer. Add lemon or honey for flavor. I love ginger so I can drink it straight. 

    Tea

    I will give it a try!  Thanks.

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,262 Member
    edited April 2019 #8
    NewHere said:

    Aleve

    Urgh, my computer died when typing.  I assure you Sandia that what I had was extraordinarily brilliant.  But instead you need to be satisfied with the following (more shorthand, sorry) Cool

    I use Aleve, it is non Aspirin  

    https://www.aleve.com/faq/ingredients/

    It may cause bleeding, but I think it is not the same risk as aspirin, which is a pretty common thing to happen.

    https://www.drugs.com/aleve.html

    I use Aleve now and again between my spinal tumors and exercise.  I try to avoid the prescriptions as much as possible and Prendisone is nasty.  I used Dexamethasone before I had radiation for my spine and after radiation.  It helped.  And whatever they are pumping in my chemo seems to also calm things down for a week or so - one pf the perks of being back on the bottle ;)

    Acupuncture has also helped a lot for me, been basically doing that for a few months and maybe popped two Aleve.  Check out TENS units, they help many people, I need to look into them.  Also yoga can help with the pain you have. Find a GOOD yoga instructor (there are bad ones out there who do the "I am going to be a yoga instructor and I have this certification" even if they have a couple hundred hours of training) who can check you out.

    Of course get this all cleared by your MD, but you knew I would have to add that and I know you are smart enough that I really did not have to Foot in Mouth

    Aleve

    I am afraid Aleve has many of the problems of aspirin.  The tens unit sounds interesting, I have heard some benefit from it.  I do some yoga already and have seen a physical therapist, the exercises have not really seemed to help.  I hate needles, so accupuncture does not sound too attractive to me.  Thanks for your input.

  • ACinNC
    ACinNC Member Posts: 46

    Aleve

    I am afraid Aleve has many of the problems of aspirin.  The tens unit sounds interesting, I have heard some benefit from it.  I do some yoga already and have seen a physical therapist, the exercises have not really seemed to help.  I hate needles, so accupuncture does not sound too attractive to me.  Thanks for your input.

    Voltaren

    There is a topical preparation by prescription for the oral form of Voltaren, an anti-imflammatory.  It does have some absorption systemically but far less than the oral form.  It is mainly used for joint pain.  My husband uses it when he remembers and has good relief from his pain.  He is very sensitive to the oral meds and never has had side effects with the topical.   

  • Lily Flower
    Lily Flower Member Posts: 254
    Ginger Tea

    Not sure if you like the taste of ginger but ginger is not only good for nausea but also known for anti-inflammatory agent. You can cut the ginger into slices and boil in water for 10-20 minutes, depends on how much of intensity you prefer. Add lemon or honey for flavor. I love ginger so I can drink it straight. 

  • Lily Flower
    Lily Flower Member Posts: 254
    edited April 2019 #11
    Typos :O

    My goodness....all my "ginger" words came out "giner" in my reply...how embarrassing! I corrected them all.  I do know how to spell it but I'm sure you know what I meant. LOL! 

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,390 Member
    ACinNC said:

    Voltaren

    There is a topical preparation by prescription for the oral form of Voltaren, an anti-imflammatory.  It does have some absorption systemically but far less than the oral form.  It is mainly used for joint pain.  My husband uses it when he remembers and has good relief from his pain.  He is very sensitive to the oral meds and never has had side effects with the topical.   

    Voltaren Was OTC in Canada

    Not sure if it still is.  But for a long time no prescription needed.  And it works great.

  • NewHere
    NewHere Member Posts: 1,390 Member

    Aleve

    I am afraid Aleve has many of the problems of aspirin.  The tens unit sounds interesting, I have heard some benefit from it.  I do some yoga already and have seen a physical therapist, the exercises have not really seemed to help.  I hate needles, so accupuncture does not sound too attractive to me.  Thanks for your input.

    The Needles

    Are really very small and most of the time you do not feel them at all (I am an absolute wimp of an incredible level when it comes to needles. I start sweating just seeing them pull them out when going for blood.  Serious serious non-tough guy at all on needles.)  There are some spots where you may feel like a stinger, depending on where the needles go/what is being treated, but it is so minimal compared to the relief.  To be fair, the first person I went to a a decade or so ago was not great at it and seemed to get many more stingers/pain.  The next two I have used, no issue other than as mentioned.  In additon to my tumors,  I also have a protruding disc.  

    Anyway, I hope you feel better quickly

  • airborne72
    airborne72 Member Posts: 286 Member
    Chronic Back Pain - my reality

    Back pain is no fun.  It is another one of those "quality of life subtractors."

    My history of pain has spanned decades.  In 2011, I finally surrendered to a spinal fusion.  It provided notable relief for about three months, but then the pain returned.  In 2013, I had a revision surgery.  No improvement.  In 2014, I surrendered to pain management.  While going through adjuvant chemo therapy in late 2017 I told my pain management doctor that I wanted out of the program and off the drugs.  We did that in mid 2018 and I have been "one hurting puppy" ever since.

    I have tried the CBD oil.  Absolutely no benefit for me.  Currently awaiting a consult with a vascular surgeon regarding a significant blockage in one of my leg veins that was identified during a rectal cancer CT scan.  The human body can sure challenge the medical community sometimes.

    Never forget Buddy, motion is lotion.  Never stop moving, regardless.

    Jim

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,262 Member
    ACinNC said:

    Voltaren

    There is a topical preparation by prescription for the oral form of Voltaren, an anti-imflammatory.  It does have some absorption systemically but far less than the oral form.  It is mainly used for joint pain.  My husband uses it when he remembers and has good relief from his pain.  He is very sensitive to the oral meds and never has had side effects with the topical.   

    Diclofenac Sodium

    I am not sure the topical application would get through to the nerve that is affected, but hey, I will try anything.

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,262 Member

    Chronic Back Pain - my reality

    Back pain is no fun.  It is another one of those "quality of life subtractors."

    My history of pain has spanned decades.  In 2011, I finally surrendered to a spinal fusion.  It provided notable relief for about three months, but then the pain returned.  In 2013, I had a revision surgery.  No improvement.  In 2014, I surrendered to pain management.  While going through adjuvant chemo therapy in late 2017 I told my pain management doctor that I wanted out of the program and off the drugs.  We did that in mid 2018 and I have been "one hurting puppy" ever since.

    I have tried the CBD oil.  Absolutely no benefit for me.  Currently awaiting a consult with a vascular surgeon regarding a significant blockage in one of my leg veins that was identified during a rectal cancer CT scan.  The human body can sure challenge the medical community sometimes.

    Never forget Buddy, motion is lotion.  Never stop moving, regardless.

    Jim

    Motion

    Thanks.  I am planning a 20 mile day-hike to the bottom of Grand Canyon this weekend, body and weather willing.  I absolutely do not want surgery.  I will use some prednisone on the day before and day of the hike, and that seems to keep me going--whether the effect is physical or psychological, I am really not sure.

  • Annabelle41415
    Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,715 Member
    edited April 2019 #17
    Hike

    Wow even if I'm not in pain just don't think my hips would go that far in a weekend.  After two hip replacements due to the radiation damage, my body would hurt too.  Give you a lot of credit and hoping you have a wonderful hike.  Is that a 20 mile day hike down and 20 mile hike up this weekend making it 40 miles in 3 days - yikes, I'd take some Prednisone too.  Have fun though and hope the weather cooperates.

    Kim

     

  • tanstaafl
    tanstaafl Member Posts: 1,299 Member
    Oral and IV vitamin C, MSM

    Anti-inflammatories

    Oral and IV vitamin C, are anti-inflammatory and can help resolve some spinal stenoses.   Several years ago, I had terrible back pain issues, had to carefully roll out of  bed, cry a little, crawl up a pole to stand.  Couldn't resolve it with glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM, boswellia; vitamin D3, and fish oil.  Finally started 16 grams/day oral vitamin C, up and walking, fine, in several days.    C (see) Saul

    I have a sister-in-law who has terrific inflammatory pain behind her eyes. Drs prescribe prednisone like candy for or IV and they don't really work well or long.  She gets her best pain relief from IV vitamin C, 1.25 - 1.5 gram/kg.   She takes a lot of anti-inflammatory supplements to extend it but IV C is what she really wants.  

    Niacinamide tablets every 1-2 has some anti-inflammatory action.

    Also might check large MSM for slight aid, eg. 10g+/day, divided doses.

    Fish oil 2-3 tablespoons max/day, of course, bleed time is altered. 

    Backaches

    Better call Saul

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,262 Member

    Hike

    Wow even if I'm not in pain just don't think my hips would go that far in a weekend.  After two hip replacements due to the radiation damage, my body would hurt too.  Give you a lot of credit and hoping you have a wonderful hike.  Is that a 20 mile day hike down and 20 mile hike up this weekend making it 40 miles in 3 days - yikes, I'd take some Prednisone too.  Have fun though and hope the weather cooperates.

    Kim

     

    Round trip

    No, it is twenty miles round trip in a day, but with a mile loss, then gain in elevation on the hike.

  • SandiaBuddy
    SandiaBuddy Member Posts: 1,262 Member
    Interesting

    Interesting, I have a bunch of Vitamin C that I do not take because of pill overload.  I will give it a try.  I do take fish oil and MSM already.  I certainly could add to the MSM dosage.  Everything is worth a try.  Thank you one and all.

  • myAZmountain
    myAZmountain Member Posts: 417 Member

    Round trip

    No, it is twenty miles round trip in a day, but with a mile loss, then gain in elevation on the hike.

    Voltaren

    Worked well for my back issue (spondy) and arthritic hands/knees.  Mile elevation gain on the return?--That's why I like to go up a mountain, get the hard part over first lol!! I would love to do the Havasu Falls hike someday--have you done that one?