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I have been having quite a bit of leg pain lately, possibly sciatica, or a different pinched nerve.  I used to take aspirin liberally, but I have been warned to limit my use because of the risk of bleeding post-surgery.  I tried iburprofen, but post-chemo, it caused some weird symptoms, so that is out.  Prednisone is effective, but I would prefer to stay off it.  I take boswellia, with uncertain results.  Does anyone know of an effective anti-inflammatory that does not cause bleeding that might work whether prescription or natural supplement?  Thank you.

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I have heard great things about CBD for many ailments. 

You obviously don't have a weight problem - which is what causes my sciatica - but finding out what is triggering it, would be helpful. 

Tru

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I have a bone growth on one of the discs that likely pinches a nerve.  I am going in on the 10th for another spine consultation, but if I can get a hold of it before the appointment, I would be happy.  The less medical treatment I get, the happier I am.

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My knee has been bothering me for a year. I never go to the dr and I was taking a ridiculous amount of ibuprofen. So I started it last Sunday, by Tuesday my knee pain was gone. I have had zero side effects, I take a dropperful under my tongue once daily.

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That is something I will look into.  Only medical marijuana is legal in my state, so I will ask.

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Urgh, my computer died when typing.  I assure you Sandia that what I had was extraordinarily brilliant.  But instead you need to be satisfied with the following (more shorthand, sorry) Cool

I use Aleve, it is non Aspirin  

https://www.aleve.com/faq/ingredients/

It may cause bleeding, but I think it is not the same risk as aspirin, which is a pretty common thing to happen.

https://www.drugs.com/aleve.html

I use Aleve now and again between my spinal tumors and exercise.  I try to avoid the prescriptions as much as possible and Prendisone is nasty.  I used Dexamethasone before I had radiation for my spine and after radiation.  It helped.  And whatever they are pumping in my chemo seems to also calm things down for a week or so - one pf the perks of being back on the bottle ;)

Acupuncture has also helped a lot for me, been basically doing that for a few months and maybe popped two Aleve.  Check out TENS units, they help many people, I need to look into them.  Also yoga can help with the pain you have. Find a GOOD yoga instructor (there are bad ones out there who do the "I am going to be a yoga instructor and I have this certification" even if they have a couple hundred hours of training) who can check you out.

Of course get this all cleared by your MD, but you knew I would have to add that and I know you are smart enough that I really did not have to Foot in Mouth

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I am afraid Aleve has many of the problems of aspirin.  The tens unit sounds interesting, I have heard some benefit from it.  I do some yoga already and have seen a physical therapist, the exercises have not really seemed to help.  I hate needles, so accupuncture does not sound too attractive to me.  Thanks for your input.

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There is a topical preparation by prescription for the oral form of Voltaren, an anti-imflammatory.  It does have some absorption systemically but far less than the oral form.  It is mainly used for joint pain.  My husband uses it when he remembers and has good relief from his pain.  He is very sensitive to the oral meds and never has had side effects with the topical.   

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Not sure if it still is.  But for a long time no prescription needed.  And it works great.

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I am not sure the topical application would get through to the nerve that is affected, but hey, I will try anything.

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Are really very small and most of the time you do not feel them at all (I am an absolute wimp of an incredible level when it comes to needles. I start sweating just seeing them pull them out when going for blood.  Serious serious non-tough guy at all on needles.)  There are some spots where you may feel like a stinger, depending on where the needles go/what is being treated, but it is so minimal compared to the relief.  To be fair, the first person I went to a a decade or so ago was not great at it and seemed to get many more stingers/pain.  The next two I have used, no issue other than as mentioned.  In additon to my tumors,  I also have a protruding disc.  

Anyway, I hope you feel better quickly

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Not sure if you like the taste of ginger but ginger is not only good for nausea but also known for anti-inflammatory agent. You can cut the ginger into slices and boil in water for 10-20 minutes, depends on how much of intensity you prefer. Add lemon or honey for flavor. I love ginger so I can drink it straight. 

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I will give it a try!  Thanks.

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My goodness....all my "ginger" words came out "giner" in my reply...how embarrassing! I corrected them all.  I do know how to spell it but I'm sure you know what I meant. LOL! 

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Back pain is no fun.  It is another one of those "quality of life subtractors."

My history of pain has spanned decades.  In 2011, I finally surrendered to a spinal fusion.  It provided notable relief for about three months, but then the pain returned.  In 2013, I had a revision surgery.  No improvement.  In 2014, I surrendered to pain management.  While going through adjuvant chemo therapy in late 2017 I told my pain management doctor that I wanted out of the program and off the drugs.  We did that in mid 2018 and I have been "one hurting puppy" ever since.

I have tried the CBD oil.  Absolutely no benefit for me.  Currently awaiting a consult with a vascular surgeon regarding a significant blockage in one of my leg veins that was identified during a rectal cancer CT scan.  The human body can sure challenge the medical community sometimes.

Never forget Buddy, motion is lotion.  Never stop moving, regardless.

Jim

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Thanks.  I am planning a 20 mile day-hike to the bottom of Grand Canyon this weekend, body and weather willing.  I absolutely do not want surgery.  I will use some prednisone on the day before and day of the hike, and that seems to keep me going--whether the effect is physical or psychological, I am really not sure.

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Wow even if I'm not in pain just don't think my hips would go that far in a weekend.  After two hip replacements due to the radiation damage, my body would hurt too.  Give you a lot of credit and hoping you have a wonderful hike.  Is that a 20 mile day hike down and 20 mile hike up this weekend making it 40 miles in 3 days - yikes, I'd take some Prednisone too.  Have fun though and hope the weather cooperates.

Kim

 

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No, it is twenty miles round trip in a day, but with a mile loss, then gain in elevation on the hike.

myAZmountain
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Worked well for my back issue (spondy) and arthritic hands/knees.  Mile elevation gain on the return?--That's why I like to go up a mountain, get the hard part over first lol!! I would love to do the Havasu Falls hike someday--have you done that one? 

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I have not.  The planning looks pretty daunting.  I go up hill much better than I go down, maybe that's why I like the Canyon.  I am probably the slowest hiker on the trail going down, but that situation often reverses when I go back up.  Who knows why?

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Anti-inflammatories

Oral and IV vitamin C, are anti-inflammatory and can help resolve some spinal stenoses.   Several years ago, I had terrible back pain issues, had to carefully roll out of  bed, cry a little, crawl up a pole to stand.  Couldn't resolve it with glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM, boswellia; vitamin D3, and fish oil.  Finally started 16 grams/day oral vitamin C, up and walking, fine, in several days.    C (see) Saul

I have a sister-in-law who has terrific inflammatory pain behind her eyes. Drs prescribe prednisone like candy for or IV and they don't really work well or long.  She gets her best pain relief from IV vitamin C, 1.25 - 1.5 gram/kg.   She takes a lot of anti-inflammatory supplements to extend it but IV C is what she really wants.  

Niacinamide tablets every 1-2 has some anti-inflammatory action.

Also might check large MSM for slight aid, eg. 10g+/day, divided doses.

Fish oil 2-3 tablespoons max/day, of course, bleed time is altered. 

Backaches

Better call Saul

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Interesting, I have a bunch of Vitamin C that I do not take because of pill overload.  I will give it a try.  I do take fish oil and MSM already.  I certainly could add to the MSM dosage.  Everything is worth a try.  Thank you one and all.

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IV vitamin C is the big gun for steroid displacement.  Even saturation with oral C at the laxative point, say 20+ grams per day, is relatively slight, more for maintenance after the IV with other anti-inflammatory supplements.     My sisteer-in-law can take oral any combination including prednisone, and it is the IV C that she wants

Woodytele
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I had radiating leg pain, since I have been taking this, it’s really worked.  Worth looking into. 

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I will ask my doctor about it.  Does it have any interactions with alcohol?  Red wine is part of my supplement regimine.

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