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  • Drivingdaisy
    Drivingdaisy Member Posts: 263
    edited December 2017 #2
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    Conciting Sucid

     neck cancer sucks.  So many after effects.   was doing well but now My life is spent in Drs offices.  Radition & chemo really screwed up up life.  I have horrible sodium lows since I over drink from very dry mouth.   Been in the Hospital twice, second caused a stroke.  I’m done with this BS.  Just went to Baton Rouge to a Specialist for fix Mysalivaryglands nota greatweek but does not seem to work, one-of the best in the Country.  So dry in the motel than airplanes, so very dry again, was told to hang in might just get better.  Just want to die, this is not a life.  I worked hard thru Recovery, did well now de payed effects.  Very pissed.  Have other Cancer patient that they cut it out .....No chem or Rads, so back to their normal life.  I just fight non stop...so tired, death seems better to Me.  Need a My life back !!!

  • Klingels
    Klingels Member Posts: 78
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    I can’t imagine what you are going through

    I will keep you in my prayers. My husband had a really rough time with treatment and wanted to die as well. It took many weeks for him to be able to get out of bed, but he did get better.

  • caregiver wife
    caregiver wife Member Posts: 234
    edited December 2017 #4
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    Fifteen years ago...

    ... I thought about it.  But I got through and found my new life.  Found out how many people still needed me later that I didn't know would then.  Made peace with my new me.  It did get better.

    Many Hugs and best wishes,

    Crystal

  • Drivingdaisy
    Drivingdaisy Member Posts: 263
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    Angry

    What really gets me I was doing well.  Treatment was horrible but made it through & had saliva the whole time.  Also kept my taste buds and was eating steak 3 months post treatment.  Did so well My Drs were shocked.  Than about 7 months into recovery woke up to No saliva.  My ENT explained it was delayed Radiation damage the scared My ducts.  My saliva had become so thick from Chemo that though I made it in the Glands it could not get through the ducts so dry, dry mouth.  Tried every products offered to me. So constantly thirsty & drinking to much can give you a form of water poisioning.  For Me it drops the ratio of water to sodium to balance my electrolytes.  Gets to low can send me to have a seizure, than a stroke coma, & possible death.  So to all you out there with extremely dry mouth how long can you go & just not drink cause that’s all I get as how to manage this....just don’t drink anything.  Also take salt tablets so dry you out more.   Need to be blood tested often especially if I feel low.  This is why this surgery with the specialist was so important.  Hellious wk, just getting there & settling in before the surgery.  Weather took a nose dive from 80 to 30 w/snow in Baton Rouge.  My sinuses are a mess, the dry air made my mouth so dry, than the flying back to fla was so uncomfortable.  So right now no saliva & mouth so, so dry.  I can’t live a normal life or travel to hard .  Go thru a large bottle of biotin a week just trying to rinse so I won’t drink. So of course things I was eating with saliva , out the window.  My surgeon is still optimistic, hot rags massage, lemon , You all know the routine.  Just want My life back,  losing patience.

  • EnergizerBunnyFrayed
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    Angry

    What really gets me I was doing well.  Treatment was horrible but made it through & had saliva the whole time.  Also kept my taste buds and was eating steak 3 months post treatment.  Did so well My Drs were shocked.  Than about 7 months into recovery woke up to No saliva.  My ENT explained it was delayed Radiation damage the scared My ducts.  My saliva had become so thick from Chemo that though I made it in the Glands it could not get through the ducts so dry, dry mouth.  Tried every products offered to me. So constantly thirsty & drinking to much can give you a form of water poisioning.  For Me it drops the ratio of water to sodium to balance my electrolytes.  Gets to low can send me to have a seizure, than a stroke coma, & possible death.  So to all you out there with extremely dry mouth how long can you go & just not drink cause that’s all I get as how to manage this....just don’t drink anything.  Also take salt tablets so dry you out more.   Need to be blood tested often especially if I feel low.  This is why this surgery with the specialist was so important.  Hellious wk, just getting there & settling in before the surgery.  Weather took a nose dive from 80 to 30 w/snow in Baton Rouge.  My sinuses are a mess, the dry air made my mouth so dry, than the flying back to fla was so uncomfortable.  So right now no saliva & mouth so, so dry.  I can’t live a normal life or travel to hard .  Go thru a large bottle of biotin a week just trying to rinse so I won’t drink. So of course things I was eating with saliva , out the window.  My surgeon is still optimistic, hot rags massage, lemon , You all know the routine.  Just want My life back,  losing patience.

    I can relate. The after care is horrible from treatment. I have found ways to deal with most issues on my own as it seems drs wait until it is severe to do anything. I dont do opiates. I like my brain. I carry water with me everywhere. I cried when I couldnt taste cherries. I have sinuses issues forever and I told them the mask was causing it. Try different things. Throw a bunch of darts out and maybe one will stick. You arent alone. I hope you can feel the compassion and energy. Good luck.

  • johnsonbl
    johnsonbl Member Posts: 266 Member
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    Angry

    What really gets me I was doing well.  Treatment was horrible but made it through & had saliva the whole time.  Also kept my taste buds and was eating steak 3 months post treatment.  Did so well My Drs were shocked.  Than about 7 months into recovery woke up to No saliva.  My ENT explained it was delayed Radiation damage the scared My ducts.  My saliva had become so thick from Chemo that though I made it in the Glands it could not get through the ducts so dry, dry mouth.  Tried every products offered to me. So constantly thirsty & drinking to much can give you a form of water poisioning.  For Me it drops the ratio of water to sodium to balance my electrolytes.  Gets to low can send me to have a seizure, than a stroke coma, & possible death.  So to all you out there with extremely dry mouth how long can you go & just not drink cause that’s all I get as how to manage this....just don’t drink anything.  Also take salt tablets so dry you out more.   Need to be blood tested often especially if I feel low.  This is why this surgery with the specialist was so important.  Hellious wk, just getting there & settling in before the surgery.  Weather took a nose dive from 80 to 30 w/snow in Baton Rouge.  My sinuses are a mess, the dry air made my mouth so dry, than the flying back to fla was so uncomfortable.  So right now no saliva & mouth so, so dry.  I can’t live a normal life or travel to hard .  Go thru a large bottle of biotin a week just trying to rinse so I won’t drink. So of course things I was eating with saliva , out the window.  My surgeon is still optimistic, hot rags massage, lemon , You all know the routine.  Just want My life back,  losing patience.

    Seems strange that this would all of a sudden hit you...

    7 months AFTER treatment.  Had you started or changed any medications around the same time?  There are meds that have decreased saliva as a side effect.  Wouldn't be a stretch to say that something like that in an already fragile system might really have a huge impact on saliva production.

    At any rate, good luck.  Sounds like you're struggling.  Frown

  • tommyodavey
    tommyodavey Member Posts: 727 Member
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    Aweful Recovery

    So sorry you're going through all this crap.  I cannot relate but can only hope that time will improve matters. At the very least, invest in a decent humidifier.  We had to get one called a Vornado and it helps greatly.  Now they make one that'll cover 1000 sq ft. It's on my list of things to upgrade to.

    Time did damage so we all hope that time will also heal your mouth.  Positive thoughts heading your way.  It breaks my heart to read your story.

  • CivilMatt
    CivilMatt Member Posts: 4,722 Member
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    Team Daisy

    DD,

    I know we have talked about hell holes, test rats and no eating, but I had hoped you would get passed the bad and start the good.  It sounds like you need a little mental help to bring up your spirits and a GOOD doctor  to address the post cancer  issues.  You are correct, most of us get to our new normal and things are more or less ok.  If I was stuck in the low parts of recovery, I would be low too.

    In hind sight you may wish you should have done things differently, but maybe there is a way to whittle down these issues and get your life back in order.

    Who is sitting with you in your picture?  You both look happy.  Don’t give up.  Get yourself undepressed and go after the rest.

    Matt

  • FamilyLove
    FamilyLove Member Posts: 22 Member
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    So Sorry

    So sorry that you are going thru such a hard time.  Maybe you could also rinse your mouth often to help relieve the dryness.  Hang in there and don't ever give up.  I too went thru a very depressed time.  It took me nearly a year to get any  energy back.  I was on a feeding tube for a year because my throat had closed nearly all the way up.  I have repeated egd's with dilation to keep it open. But eventually I did feel better. I hope you do too.  Sending prayers.

  • Dolphinswae
    Dolphinswae Member Posts: 6 Member
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    I can relate

    I also have no saliva. I'm up all night drinking water because my tongue gets stuck to the roof of my mouth and large tonsils. During the day I just rinse and spit out because I feel water logged. Biotene and Xylamelts don't work at all. To make matters worse, my nose is very congested and I end up mouth breathing day and night. When I talk I need to sip water because people can't understand me (tongue sticks). I also seem to be doing worse now than two months ago. I had an upper endoscopy last week and was diagnosed with gastritis and esophagitis. They found something in the stomach and now I'm waiting for results of a biopsy. I know it can be frustrating because everyone's journey is different. I just happen to be one who heals slowly and chemo with radiation and I don't do well. But I am hoping the tumor is gone and I could put this behind me. I just practice patience (sometimes it sooo difficult to do so) and I remember at least my burned neck and mouth sores have healed. Baby steps for me. I pray that you will find the strength to overcome this and heal. 

  • Sinus2016
    Sinus2016 Member Posts: 36
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    Driving daisy refocus for all of us.

    it is sad to hear your frustration and I can relate.  It’s been 13 months since I finished treatment and all seemed to be going well until I got blood clots in my leg, fibrosis in my neck that it feels Ike dry leather, dry mouth that doesn’t go away,(carry a water bottle everywhere I go) trouble swallowing and swelling in my cheecks that everyone says I look like a chipmunk. The list goes on and it made me angry and frustrated for awhile but life goes on.  

    No I will never be the same and accept the fact it is what it is.  My energy is now focused on the important things in my life, family, friends and even work.  Rather than sitting at the dinner thinking about how eating no longer fun I find pleasure in watching my grandkids cramming more food on their face than in their mouth. 

    I hope you will find different things to appreciate and enjoy because it really does beat the alternative.  And for me I also draw strength from the success stories we read on this blog so please make it a success for those of us who need it.

    Best wishes for you.

  • AndrewP16nose
    AndrewP16nose Member Posts: 23 Member
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    Fast Forward Button

    I'm now 3 years post treatment and looking back I can only vaguely remember how awful things were. We've all been through really grim and awful times and I had moments of deep depression and physical symptoms I could hardly bear. However the ability of our brains to somehow erase the horror times is really powerful and when I look back now I just can't remember what the bad days were like- sure I knew I felt like rubbish but just can't remember exactly why. Praise be for that.

  • patricke
    patricke Member Posts: 570
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    Angry

    What really gets me I was doing well.  Treatment was horrible but made it through & had saliva the whole time.  Also kept my taste buds and was eating steak 3 months post treatment.  Did so well My Drs were shocked.  Than about 7 months into recovery woke up to No saliva.  My ENT explained it was delayed Radiation damage the scared My ducts.  My saliva had become so thick from Chemo that though I made it in the Glands it could not get through the ducts so dry, dry mouth.  Tried every products offered to me. So constantly thirsty & drinking to much can give you a form of water poisioning.  For Me it drops the ratio of water to sodium to balance my electrolytes.  Gets to low can send me to have a seizure, than a stroke coma, & possible death.  So to all you out there with extremely dry mouth how long can you go & just not drink cause that’s all I get as how to manage this....just don’t drink anything.  Also take salt tablets so dry you out more.   Need to be blood tested often especially if I feel low.  This is why this surgery with the specialist was so important.  Hellious wk, just getting there & settling in before the surgery.  Weather took a nose dive from 80 to 30 w/snow in Baton Rouge.  My sinuses are a mess, the dry air made my mouth so dry, than the flying back to fla was so uncomfortable.  So right now no saliva & mouth so, so dry.  I can’t live a normal life or travel to hard .  Go thru a large bottle of biotin a week just trying to rinse so I won’t drink. So of course things I was eating with saliva , out the window.  My surgeon is still optimistic, hot rags massage, lemon , You all know the routine.  Just want My life back,  losing patience.

    DRY MOUTH

    I'm sorry to hear that your recovery has gone so far south.  I hope that in time you get stabilized again and back on an upward trajectory.  Back in my old'in days, I too suffered from desert mouth, and industrial grade viscosity mucus.  I was on a PEG tube, so there was no drinking water to alleviate the dryness.  I had small spray bottles of Mouthkote with me and in all of my vehicles, which worked well to keep my mouth moist.  If you are not already doing the misty routine, I recommend experimenting with the sprays to see how they may work for you.  Back in 2011, after I had my laryngectomy, my saliva glands miraculously, emerged from hybernation and came back to life, so I had the great pleasure of tossing all of my spray bottles.  I wish you a Happy New Year with improved recovery.  Hang in there, take one minute at a time when you have to.   You Can Do This!