Joan M had Gallbladder surgery today

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Trubrit
Trubrit Member Posts: 5,796 Member

Would just like to wish Joan all the best, and hopefully the CT scan came out good on Monday showed good progress. 

Take good care and heal up so they can get you back on the juice (chemo). 

Tru

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  • lizard44
    lizard44 Member Posts: 409 Member
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    Hoping all went well

    with  Joan's surgery and wishing her a speedy recovery.

    Grace/lizard44

     

  • Bellen
    Bellen Member Posts: 281 Member
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    Sending a speedy recovery

    Hi Joan - Wishing you well and a speedy recovery from your surgery.  Also, when you feel well enough, give us an update on your CT scan.  I know you have been off your chemo for a while.  Thinking of you.

  • Ruthmomto4
    Ruthmomto4 Member Posts: 708 Member
    edited November 2017 #4
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    Hi Joan!

    I hope the surgery went well and you are recovering quickly and painlessly!

  • PamRav
    PamRav Member Posts: 348 Member
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    Wishing you

    an easy recovery And good scan results. 

    Pam

  • Annabelle41415
    Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,742 Member
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    Best of Luck

    Hope that all went well with the surgery and you get to feeling more normal every day.  Surgery of any kind just stinks, but hoping that this one will make you feel better as well.

    Kim

  • Canadian Sandy
    Canadian Sandy Member Posts: 784 Member
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    Wishing you a speedy recovery

    Wishing you a speedy recovery.

     

  • Lily Flower
    Lily Flower Member Posts: 260 Member
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    Hope the surgery went well

    Hope the surgery went well and a speedy recovery. 

  • Joan M
    Joan M Member Posts: 409 Member
    edited November 2017 #9
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    Thank you all for your prayers!

    I am home recuperating from a laporoscopic procedure and attempt to remove my gallbladder.  However it was surrounded by scar tissue and the surgeon said he wasn't able to get it because it is attached to my duodenum from scarring on one side and scar tissue was wrapped around my gallbladder and bile ducts.  He tried to get it out, but stopped because he didn't want to damage the bile ducts or duodenum.  We had discused the possibility that he may have to cut me open to remove the gallbladder, but he said that it was so embedded in scar tissue that he wouldn't have been able to get it even if he had cut me open.

    He was also concerned about the risk of spreading tumors because it was so near to my liver with tumors visible on the surface of liver.  This was on the side that had been treated with  Y90 radiation. 

    I'm glad he stopped and spared me the possible injury to duodenum and bile ducts that could have been fatal.  

    There was another procedure he had discussed with me, where they remove part of the gallbladder and seal off the cystic duct.  Apparently he wasn't able to do that either due to the cystic duct  being surrounded by scarring.  

    He removed the biliary drain tube so that was a huge relief!

    I had a CT scan on the 13th and it showed some growth in 4 tumors in my lungs.  They are all still quite small - 4 to  6mm.  My liver is stable with no growth of tumors.  I've been off chemo since mid August so I could have the surgery, and expected some growth.  I'll be starting back on chemo after a few weeks to allow healing from the surgery. 

    I'm praying that no tumors were spread by the surgery.

  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,796 Member
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    Oh, Joan!

    What a disappointment!

    To have surgery, and then find out they couldn't do anything. That is awful! I'm glad that your Surgeon erred on the side of caution. 

    Do all you can to heal well. You know the score, rest, good food, fresh air, and a little exercise. Chemo is no fun, but you need to be back on it to stop the tumour growth. 

    Thank you so much for the update. You continute to be our prayers. 

    Tru

  • Bellen
    Bellen Member Posts: 281 Member
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    You are in my prayers

    Hello Joan - Sending you best wishes to heal and soon get back on your chemo treatment.  Will keep you in my prayers.  

  • Annabelle41415
    Annabelle41415 Member Posts: 6,742 Member
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    Oh I'm Sorry

    Sorry that the surgery didn't go as planned.  Wishing you the best going forward and hoping that the new treatment is going to work.  Glad that some of the tumors are stable.  Thanks for the update and letting us know how things are.  Sounds like you have a lot of confidence in your doctor and he made the right move during surgery to make sure you were safe.  That's a great doctor of concern.

    Kim

  • Joan M
    Joan M Member Posts: 409 Member
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    Finally starting to feel better!

    The last week has been pretty tough.  I am lucky the doctor didn't do the open surgery.  I've had way more pain than expected from the laporoscopic procedure.  It could be from the scraping around trying to get my gall bladder out.  Also a lot of pain around the drain tube he put in.  Yesterday started out pretty good, but then had alot of pain while showering and dressing, then extreme pain by evening.  I was trying to take less pain meds but went back on the stronger dose so I could get some sleep.  

    The only surgery I had prior to the cancer diagnosis was a c-section.  Since the diagnosis I've had the port placed and a few other surgical procedures such as placement of the biliary drainage tube, and the chest tube for collapsed lung after the cryoablation.  The ablations and Y90 were the easiest to heal from.   The biliary tube caused ongoing pain because it stayed in place for over two months.  The drain tube the doctor placed after the gall bladder surgery is causing alot of pain too.    Praying he removes that tomorrow at my post-op visit. 

    Yes, I am very fortunate the surgeon knew to stop the procedure instead of possibly damaging my duodenum or bile ducts.  One of the biggest health risks from galbladder surgery is from damaged bile ducts.  I never even heard of damage to the duodenum before.  In my case it was from the scar tissue that apparently surrounds most of my gallbladder. Have any of you that had the Y90 or ablations been told you have scarring in that area?

    The Interventional Radiologist who performed the ablations and Y90 procedures has referred me to MD Anderson in Houston to see if there are any new treatments for me that will be less toxic than the Folfiri regime that my oncologist wants to start me on.  I will let you  know what they say.  Last time I was referred there, they just reviewed my files and treatment plan and told me they would not do anything different, so I didn't need to travel there.  They may tell me the same thing this time.  

    Thank you all for your continued prayers!     

    Hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving weekend!

  • Trubrit
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    Joan M said:

    Finally starting to feel better!

    The last week has been pretty tough.  I am lucky the doctor didn't do the open surgery.  I've had way more pain than expected from the laporoscopic procedure.  It could be from the scraping around trying to get my gall bladder out.  Also a lot of pain around the drain tube he put in.  Yesterday started out pretty good, but then had alot of pain while showering and dressing, then extreme pain by evening.  I was trying to take less pain meds but went back on the stronger dose so I could get some sleep.  

    The only surgery I had prior to the cancer diagnosis was a c-section.  Since the diagnosis I've had the port placed and a few other surgical procedures such as placement of the biliary drainage tube, and the chest tube for collapsed lung after the cryoablation.  The ablations and Y90 were the easiest to heal from.   The biliary tube caused ongoing pain because it stayed in place for over two months.  The drain tube the doctor placed after the gall bladder surgery is causing alot of pain too.    Praying he removes that tomorrow at my post-op visit. 

    Yes, I am very fortunate the surgeon knew to stop the procedure instead of possibly damaging my duodenum or bile ducts.  One of the biggest health risks from galbladder surgery is from damaged bile ducts.  I never even heard of damage to the duodenum before.  In my case it was from the scar tissue that apparently surrounds most of my gallbladder. Have any of you that had the Y90 or ablations been told you have scarring in that area?

    The Interventional Radiologist who performed the ablations and Y90 procedures has referred me to MD Anderson in Houston to see if there are any new treatments for me that will be less toxic than the Folfiri regime that my oncologist wants to start me on.  I will let you  know what they say.  Last time I was referred there, they just reviewed my files and treatment plan and told me they would not do anything different, so I didn't need to travel there.  They may tell me the same thing this time.  

    Thank you all for your continued prayers!     

    Hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving weekend!

    Scarring

    I was NOT told - warned would be a better word, I think - about the scarring, and I'm sad about that because I have had much anguish over the niggling pain that the scarring causes. At first, I thought for sure the cancer was back; and that is not a nice feeling at all. That fear. We've all had it, and will continue to have it.  Even now, three years later, and experiencing the niggle (as I like to call it) it still sets me into a bit of a fright.  

    Anyway, I call it my charcoal tumor, because I read that the microwave ablation, fries the tumor into charcoal, and scar tissue builds up around it, causing 'the niggle'.  Now, wether that is right or not, I won't swear to, but it suits me and puts my mind to rest - almost - 

    I am happy to hear that you are feeling better by the day. Just be good to yourself. Even though it was keyhole surgery, they were still doing some major messing around inside you, and that has to heal. We can all be really good at thinking were OK, because we are on the outside, but can't see the raw edges on the inside that need time to heal. 

    Your list of procedures - and tubes - sounds awful. It sure makes me realise that I got off pretty easy. 

    Onward and upward, friend Joan. 

    Tru

  • Bellen
    Bellen Member Posts: 281 Member
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    Scar tissue

    Joan - I had pelvic radiation 2005 for anal cancer.  In 2010 I had a partial blockage (extremely painful spasms that go on for hrs).  I was diagnosed with a small bowel intestinal stricture - a scarred area, which the Oncologist said was in the radiation path.  I wonder if any of my organs are fused due to scarring.  Since then, I have followed a low residue diet - I have had about 10 partial blockages.  Am very careful about not eating certain foods.  Surgery, radiation can cause scarring unfortunately. I wonder if one of the procedures you had caused this scarring.   I am so sorry that you are experiencing this type of pain, and hope things get better for you.  

  • BRHMichigan
    BRHMichigan Member Posts: 368
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    Onward

    Joan,

    I bet you are so grateful you had a surgeon who you trusted to make good decisions.  Even though the outcome was a disappointment, you sound strong and ready for the plan.  Hopeful your pain will ease up.  Will be praying for you.  Sincerely, --Beth

  • Joan M
    Joan M Member Posts: 409 Member
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    Thank you all for your prayers and support!

    I am feeling better each day.  I had a lot to be thankful for this year - and was extremely thankful that my doctor took out the tube the day before Thanksgiving.  He said that some of the scarring was caused by inflammation of gallbladder.  But yes, the radiation and the ablation plus the inflamation left a big mess in that area. 

    Hopefully I won't have any more problems with my gallbladder that would require any more surgery - or tubes. 

    It is so crazy to feel like I was beating the cancer and then get struck down for so long by this little organ that we can survive without. 

    Tru, I can totally feel the scar tissue that developed where the tube went under my rib cage, through my abdominal muschels through my liver and into the gallbladder.  That tube was in place from September 1 to November 16.  It still hurts there and will probably continue indefinitley.  

    I look forward to getting better and kicking this cancer!  I have been feeling well without the chemo, and actually reluctant to get back on it again.

    Good luck to all!  

  • lizard44
    lizard44 Member Posts: 409 Member
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    Wow, Joan-

    You have been through a lot lately.  So sorry the gall bladder surgery  didn't  tun out as planned, but glad your surgeon recognized the problem. So glad you got the drainage tube out before Thanksgiving and hope  your pain lessens- I remember  the relief I felt when my  chest tube was removed the day before Thanksgiving last year and I was able to go home, and    how glad I was when the drainage tube from my APR surgery was removed last month. 

    Keep kicking- I hope you get some  good news from MD Anderson on  alternatives to the Folfiri, but if not, I hope you are able to  get the chemo with  few if any  of the nastier  side effects.

    Grace/lizard44

  • NewHere
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    Glad You Are Feeling Better

    Sorry you went through all of this, but glad to hear you are doing better.  The scar tissue is a problem for me (just a bit, nothing major) from the lung surgery.  I will get pain at the scar areas from time-to-time.  Never quite sure, but I will point and say it hurts here now, and my wife will tell me I am on the scar with my finger.  I have three from that surgery that I feel from time-to-time.

     

     

  • Joan M
    Joan M Member Posts: 409 Member
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    I can finally breathe without pain at the tube site!

    It feels good to finally able to take a deep breathe without the pain under my right rib cage.  There is some discomfort, but not the stabbing pain like I've had since the tube was inserted September 1st. I was also able to roll over and lay on my left side without pain for the first time today! I haven't tried rolling onto my right side yet.  That probably doesnt seem like a big deal,  but it felt like it was to me. 

    Looking back on how everything went, I would not agree to have a biliary tube inserted again.  I would habe just gone off the chemo for another couple of weeks and had the surgeon attempt the gallbladder surgery.  I really think alot of the scarring was caused by having the tube in for so long.  Apparently our bodies form a scar around the tubing, not sure if it gets thicker over time. Of course, I'm not a doctor but it sure hurt whenever I moved and it just seems like that additional irritation could have caused alot of problems internally.  

    I am very happy to be healing from this better and quicker than I thought.  It will be really nice when I can lift things again - it's been 3 months on weight limitations, and my arms are getting weak.... I was told not to lift over 15 pounds after the surgery.  I still need to do my fall cleaning that was stalled from the health issues since August 30th.  

    The surgeon said I can lift my grandaughter - she weighs 18 pounds.  I actually try to sit down before lifting her.  It is still difficult lifting her while i'm standing. She is so cute and is walking already at 10 months old.  I'm glad I am able to watch her again she is such a joy!

     

     

  • Trubrit
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    18 lbs

    Oh, an 18 lb granddaughter, that sounds like fun. Lovely new life to boost our spirits. Congratualtions of everything. 

    Tru