Cetuximab-based treatment of metastatic anal cancer

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  • mp327
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    tallorder5793

    Thank you for posting this.

    Martha

  • eihtak
    eihtak Member Posts: 1,473 Member
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    tallorder.....

    Thanks for sharing.....

    I was traeted with Cisplatin/5fu for both of my diagnoses but my doctor did consider using Cetuximab last spring after I had what he thought may have been an allergic reaction to the Cisplatin. (It turned out to be what we think was more so related to the steroid I was also given) Anyhow, while he said that Cetuximab was another option with many positive results, his first choice is Cisplatin. Its nice to know that we have more potential help!!

    katheryn

  • tallorder5793
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    eihtak said:

    tallorder.....

    Thanks for sharing.....

    I was traeted with Cisplatin/5fu for both of my diagnoses but my doctor did consider using Cetuximab last spring after I had what he thought may have been an allergic reaction to the Cisplatin. (It turned out to be what we think was more so related to the steroid I was also given) Anyhow, while he said that Cetuximab was another option with many positive results, his first choice is Cisplatin. Its nice to know that we have more potential help!!

    katheryn

    Eihtak

    I never did the Cisplatin, except during 6 weeks of radiation. I started general treatments with Carbo/Taxol/Avastin. Unfortunately, I developed resistance after 18 months. Started cetuximab and another drug a month ago. So far, it's been going OK. Thanks!

  • eihtak
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    Eihtak

    I never did the Cisplatin, except during 6 weeks of radiation. I started general treatments with Carbo/Taxol/Avastin. Unfortunately, I developed resistance after 18 months. Started cetuximab and another drug a month ago. So far, it's been going OK. Thanks!

    tallorder5793....

    Hi,

    I'm glad to hear that treatment this time is so far okay! I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers that that is how it continues. I have a feeling that if I am in need of treatment in the near future my doctor will consider cetuximab as a first choice as I believe I have maxed out on cisplatin.

    Keeping fingers crossed for you......

    katheryn

  • tallorder5793
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    eihtak said:

    tallorder5793....

    Hi,

    I'm glad to hear that treatment this time is so far okay! I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers that that is how it continues. I have a feeling that if I am in need of treatment in the near future my doctor will consider cetuximab as a first choice as I believe I have maxed out on cisplatin.

    Keeping fingers crossed for you......

    katheryn

    Thanks Katheryn

    I developed a rash after the first treatment. After the second I was ready with prescription creams. And so the rash wasn't nearly as bad. Something to consider if you go this route. Wishing you all the best. Prayers.

  • eihtak
    eihtak Member Posts: 1,473 Member
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    Thanks Katheryn

    I developed a rash after the first treatment. After the second I was ready with prescription creams. And so the rash wasn't nearly as bad. Something to consider if you go this route. Wishing you all the best. Prayers.

    tallorder.....

    Thankyou....thats good to know. My initial treatment 5 years ago included a clinical trial involving Carboplatin along with Cisplatin/5FU. I had a possible allergic reaction to the Carboplatin and broke out in hives as well as other side effects so was taken off that trial, so appreciate the idea of being prepared prior to any new drug treatment.

    katheryn

  • Cazz
    Cazz Member Posts: 106
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    Um

    I have cut and pasted the article in the link to make it easier to follow my questions:

    Abstract

    BACKGROUND:

    No standard chemotherapy regimen can be defined for patients with metastatic squamous cell carcinoma of the anus due to the low incidence of this disease and the high cure rate of localized tumors. Anal cancers universally express the epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR) and KRAS mutations have not been reported in anal cancer thus far.

    METHODS:

    We report on 7 patients with metastatic anal cancer treated with cetuximab - a chimeric antibody against EGFR - on a compassionate use basis along with the results of KRAS mutational analysis.

    RESULTS:

    Marked tumor shrinkage was noted in several patients using cetuximab monotherapy or cetuximab/irinotecan combination as first or subsequent treatment line (usually after failure of cisplatin-based regimens). Two out of seven patients harbored KRAS mutations. Both patients had progressive disease receiving cetuximab, while the remaining 5 patients had either a partial remission (n = 3), a minor remission (n = 1) or no change lasting > or =6 months after previous rapid tumor progression.

    CONCLUSION:

    Cetuximab-based treatment appears to be a valuable treatment option for patients with metastatic KRAS wild-type anal cancer after failure of or as an alternative to cisplatin/5-fluorouracil-based therapy.

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    I don't get it, my poor brain is more mush than I thought.  It says that anal cancers all have EGFR and none have been reported with KRAS mutation.  It then goes on to say that 2 out of the 7 did indeed harbor KRAS mutations and they had progressive disease on the cetuximab.  I thought progressive meant that the tumors get bigger, despite the treatment, but the conclusion was that: Cetuximab-based treatment appears to be a valuable treatment option for patients with metastatic KRAS wild-type anal cancer.

    I'm serious, what am I missing here?  Is progressive disease actually a good thing?  and how do you know or find out if you have KRAS mutations?  I had Foundation One genetic testing done and they didn't mention anything about EGFR or KRAS or anything else that I recognized, all my mutations were totally obscure.  I'm not usually this obtuse, but if you have answers for me, please keep it simple!

    Carol

  • tallorder5793
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    eihtak said:

    tallorder.....

    Thankyou....thats good to know. My initial treatment 5 years ago included a clinical trial involving Carboplatin along with Cisplatin/5FU. I had a possible allergic reaction to the Carboplatin and broke out in hives as well as other side effects so was taken off that trial, so appreciate the idea of being prepared prior to any new drug treatment.

    katheryn

    kATHERYN

    For the record, I used clindamycin cream and hydrocortisone cream. Everyone reacts differently of course!

  • eihtak
    eihtak Member Posts: 1,473 Member
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    Cazz said:

    Um

    I have cut and pasted the article in the link to make it easier to follow my questions:

    Abstract

    BACKGROUND:

    No standard chemotherapy regimen can be defined for patients with metastatic squamous cell carcinoma of the anus due to the low incidence of this disease and the high cure rate of localized tumors. Anal cancers universally express the epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR) and KRAS mutations have not been reported in anal cancer thus far.

    METHODS:

    We report on 7 patients with metastatic anal cancer treated with cetuximab - a chimeric antibody against EGFR - on a compassionate use basis along with the results of KRAS mutational analysis.

    RESULTS:

    Marked tumor shrinkage was noted in several patients using cetuximab monotherapy or cetuximab/irinotecan combination as first or subsequent treatment line (usually after failure of cisplatin-based regimens). Two out of seven patients harbored KRAS mutations. Both patients had progressive disease receiving cetuximab, while the remaining 5 patients had either a partial remission (n = 3), a minor remission (n = 1) or no change lasting > or =6 months after previous rapid tumor progression.

    CONCLUSION:

    Cetuximab-based treatment appears to be a valuable treatment option for patients with metastatic KRAS wild-type anal cancer after failure of or as an alternative to cisplatin/5-fluorouracil-based therapy.

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    I don't get it, my poor brain is more mush than I thought.  It says that anal cancers all have EGFR and none have been reported with KRAS mutation.  It then goes on to say that 2 out of the 7 did indeed harbor KRAS mutations and they had progressive disease on the cetuximab.  I thought progressive meant that the tumors get bigger, despite the treatment, but the conclusion was that: Cetuximab-based treatment appears to be a valuable treatment option for patients with metastatic KRAS wild-type anal cancer.

    I'm serious, what am I missing here?  Is progressive disease actually a good thing?  and how do you know or find out if you have KRAS mutations?  I had Foundation One genetic testing done and they didn't mention anything about EGFR or KRAS or anything else that I recognized, all my mutations were totally obscure.  I'm not usually this obtuse, but if you have answers for me, please keep it simple!

    Carol

    Cazz....

    The whole genetic mutation thing is of interest to me but unfortunately I don't understand it either. (Also, today is much a day of brain mush for me as well so will need to get back to you later, but I think......)

    It was explained to me a while back that the KRAS mutation is more or less a predictor of whether one with EGFR would respond well or not to a particular drug....in this case Cetuximab. So, I think what this means is that all studied had EGFR, but only a couple "could have potentially been predicted to respond or not" based on the fact that those couple also had the bio-marker KRAS. This means that if KRAS is first detected, a wise choice for treatment may not be Cetuximab since those are the ones that went on to have progressive disease. (I could be way off, but thats my understanding right now)

    I also remember hearing of some relation between squamous cell carcinoma, which is most common, and adenocarcinoma, and genetic mutations, but can not clearly recall what I was told. I think it was that the KRAS marker was more often found in adenocarcinoma????

    As I said, I will get back to you after some checking but thats all I have for now, sorry.

    katheryn