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Papillary Carcinoma last year and now Breast Cancer

Roni1961
Roni1961 Member Posts: 8
edited February 2014 in Thyroid Cancer #1

Has this happened to anyone else? Are the two somehow related? Does this mean chemo and radiation sine is is my second type of cancer? Should I be concerned that there are other types of cancer in my body that are undetected? So many questions and "why me". Other than that I am in the peak of health.... ugh so frustrating

Oh, I forgot to mention that it's stage 2 infiltrating ductal carcinoma.

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  • Baldy
    Baldy Member Posts: 243

    Hi Roni,

    What kind of treatment did you receive for your thyroid cancer?  If you had RAI therapy, I guess there's a very small chance it may have caused your breast cancer, though I've never heard of it happening.

    I've never heard of papillary metastisizing to the breasts, the usual spots being lungs and bones.  They should be able to determine this, I'm pretty sure that under a microscope papillary cancer cells look different than breast cancer cells.

    It could be that whatever triggered the papillary cancer in the first place has also triggered the breast cancer, but there's no way of knowing.  If this is the case, it seems odd the slower growing cancer would manifest itself first.

    I think it's very unlikely the two are related.  Talk to your doctor {oncologist if you have one} about these questions, I'm just some guy on the internet who has no medical training at all.

    Alan

  • Roni1961
    Roni1961 Member Posts: 8
    Baldy said:

    Hi Roni,

    What kind of treatment did you receive for your thyroid cancer?  If you had RAI therapy, I guess there's a very small chance it may have caused your breast cancer, though I've never heard of it happening.

    I've never heard of papillary metastisizing to the breasts, the usual spots being lungs and bones.  They should be able to determine this, I'm pretty sure that under a microscope papillary cancer cells look different than breast cancer cells.

    It could be that whatever triggered the papillary cancer in the first place has also triggered the breast cancer, but there's no way of knowing.  If this is the case, it seems odd the slower growing cancer would manifest itself first.

    I think it's very unlikely the two are related.  Talk to your doctor {oncologist if you have one} about these questions, I'm just some guy on the internet who has no medical training at all.

    Alan

    I had a TT in January 2013

    I had a TT in January 2013 followed by the RAI in March. I had a recurrence of the thyroid cancer show up in July in one of my lymph nodes on the right side of my neck. I had a neck dissection in August. Everything has been great since, all of my levels look great, including the thyroglobulin.

    I went in for my yearly physical  and mammogram last week and there were changes from last year's mammogram. I went back for another mammogram, ultrasound and biopsy. The biopsy was positive. There was no lump at all to feel in the breast exam.

    I guess you can say I'm "lucky" yet again that it was discovered very early like both occurrences of the thyroid cancer.

    I go see my surgeon tomorrow to discuss the next steps. I don't have an oncologist, I only saw an endocrinologist for the thyroid cancer. This is all very new to me.

  • Baldy
    Baldy Member Posts: 243
    Roni1961 said:

    I had a TT in January 2013

    I had a TT in January 2013 followed by the RAI in March. I had a recurrence of the thyroid cancer show up in July in one of my lymph nodes on the right side of my neck. I had a neck dissection in August. Everything has been great since, all of my levels look great, including the thyroglobulin.

    I went in for my yearly physical  and mammogram last week and there were changes from last year's mammogram. I went back for another mammogram, ultrasound and biopsy. The biopsy was positive. There was no lump at all to feel in the breast exam.

    I guess you can say I'm "lucky" yet again that it was discovered very early like both occurrences of the thyroid cancer.

    I go see my surgeon tomorrow to discuss the next steps. I don't have an oncologist, I only saw an endocrinologist for the thyroid cancer. This is all very new to me.

    Oncologist

    I don't have an oncologist either, my endocrinologist specializes in treating thyroid cancer patients so I didn't see a need.  You can talk to your endo about this, bring all the lab reports from your mamograms, sonograms and biopsy so he has something to look at.  Your surgeon may also be very knowledgable about the questions you have, depending on his speciality.

    I think if the breast cancer is metastic thyroid cancer they would have told you so, but best to ask to be certain.

    Yes, I know what you mean, "lucky" to catch it early.  I didn't know anything was wrong until I felt a swollen lymph node in my neck.  Per doctors orders, I waited for a few months for it to go down, then spent another month waiting for the biopsy and found I had papillary.  I had a TT and neck disection 2/11 and RAI 4/11.  So far no recurrance, but we'll see.  They're right when they say "lucky", if I had ignored the lump, I'd probably be dealing with a larger metastic spread than just a couple of nodes in my neck.  The thing is, when you have cancer, it's hard to feel "lucky".

  • Roni1961
    Roni1961 Member Posts: 8
    Baldy said:

    Oncologist

    I don't have an oncologist either, my endocrinologist specializes in treating thyroid cancer patients so I didn't see a need.  You can talk to your endo about this, bring all the lab reports from your mamograms, sonograms and biopsy so he has something to look at.  Your surgeon may also be very knowledgable about the questions you have, depending on his speciality.

    I think if the breast cancer is metastic thyroid cancer they would have told you so, but best to ask to be certain.

    Yes, I know what you mean, "lucky" to catch it early.  I didn't know anything was wrong until I felt a swollen lymph node in my neck.  Per doctors orders, I waited for a few months for it to go down, then spent another month waiting for the biopsy and found I had papillary.  I had a TT and neck disection 2/11 and RAI 4/11.  So far no recurrance, but we'll see.  They're right when they say "lucky", if I had ignored the lump, I'd probably be dealing with a larger metastic spread than just a couple of nodes in my neck.  The thing is, when you have cancer, it's hard to feel "lucky".

    Good news, I'm actually in

    Good news, I'm actually in early stage 1. I'm having a lumpectomy on Friday and it's an outpatient surgery. I'll have to do radiation treatments for 5-6 weeks, but no chemo.

    He also said that the 2 cancers are not related as far as he knows.

  • Baldy
    Baldy Member Posts: 243
    Roni1961 said:

    Good news, I'm actually in

    Good news, I'm actually in early stage 1. I'm having a lumpectomy on Friday and it's an outpatient surgery. I'll have to do radiation treatments for 5-6 weeks, but no chemo.

    He also said that the 2 cancers are not related as far as he knows.

    Excellent

    Great!!!  The ealier the better!

  • candid
    candid Member Posts: 16
    Roni1961 said:

    Good news, I'm actually in

    Good news, I'm actually in early stage 1. I'm having a lumpectomy on Friday and it's an outpatient surgery. I'll have to do radiation treatments for 5-6 weeks, but no chemo.

    He also said that the 2 cancers are not related as far as he knows.

    great news Roni; hopefully

    great news Roni; hopefully the lumpectomy and the radiation will go allright.

    candid

  • Hannah1
    Hannah1 Member Posts: 63
    candid said:

    great news Roni; hopefully

    great news Roni; hopefully the lumpectomy and the radiation will go allright.

    candid

    Hi Roni, I have 3 kinds of

    Hi Roni, I have 3 kinds of cancer first uterine cancer in 2004, breast in 2008, had lumpectomy and luckily it's also on early stage then thyroid in 2009 had total thyrodectomy now metastasized to my lungs. I'm being monitored by my endocrinologist and Head and neck oncology. I'm ok now and hopefully for a long time. I just take one day at a time. 

    You will be ok just keep your spirits up. I'm glad they caught it at early stage. Cheers for that. Take care and god bless.

  • ThycaAnne
    ThycaAnne Member Posts: 68
    Hannah1 said:

    Hi Roni, I have 3 kinds of

    Hi Roni, I have 3 kinds of cancer first uterine cancer in 2004, breast in 2008, had lumpectomy and luckily it's also on early stage then thyroid in 2009 had total thyrodectomy now metastasized to my lungs. I'm being monitored by my endocrinologist and Head and neck oncology. I'm ok now and hopefully for a long time. I just take one day at a time. 

    You will be ok just keep your spirits up. I'm glad they caught it at early stage. Cheers for that. Take care and god bless.

    Me, too!!

    Hi, Roni--

    i had Papillary Thyroid Cancer in 2010; TT in June 2010.  It was a difficult surgery & I had complications requiring more surgery.  I still have some lymph nodes that are cancerous that are on a "wait & watch".  I had my RAI & subsequent oncology appointments at MDAnderson here in Houston.

    I got diagnosed with Stage 1 breast cancer in December 2011; lumpectomy & rads in January 2012.  When I asked each one of my oncologists if there was a connection-- I was told that they do see a lot of it.  They're not sure what the connection is.  In my case, the thyroid cancer was from getting heat lamp treatments once a week for four years in the 70's for my severe acne.  The breast cancer came from 26 years of HRT after a hysterectomy at age 28.

    It would be interesting to see the research.  Hang in there!!

    Anne

     

     

  • KV3
    KV3 Member Posts: 1
    Roni1961 said:

    I had a TT in January 2013

    I had a TT in January 2013 followed by the RAI in March. I had a recurrence of the thyroid cancer show up in July in one of my lymph nodes on the right side of my neck. I had a neck dissection in August. Everything has been great since, all of my levels look great, including the thyroglobulin.

    I went in for my yearly physical  and mammogram last week and there were changes from last year's mammogram. I went back for another mammogram, ultrasound and biopsy. The biopsy was positive. There was no lump at all to feel in the breast exam.

    I guess you can say I'm "lucky" yet again that it was discovered very early like both occurrences of the thyroid cancer.

    I go see my surgeon tomorrow to discuss the next steps. I don't have an oncologist, I only saw an endocrinologist for the thyroid cancer. This is all very new to me.

    I had a TT 2013 and RAI followed. Can you tell me how they detected your reoccurence in July?