Entire body is revolting

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Luckygirl2
Luckygirl2 Member Posts: 308
I don't feel like one part of my body wants to work with the other parts this morning! My fingers feel like they are on hinges, my feet feel like they aren't there, every muscle and joint hurts..I swear I wake up every morning feeling like I've been in a fight and lost! :)
Dare I ask will this ever go away? It is beginning to wear on my nerves :). To be at work by 8 I need to get up about 4 am and that is definitely not happening! I feel bad for whining my issues seem so small compared to some but dang, I'd really like to get back to normal but I'm guessing this is my normal and I may as well come to terms with it.

Are all these aches and pains from the chemo or am I just being a whiny baby. Thank you all for listening, heading for a hot shower and get this day started.

Deb

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  • Sundanceh
    Sundanceh Member Posts: 4,392 Member
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    "New Norm"
    I so dislike that term - what is a new normal anyway? When our bodies have been changed from the surgery and treatments, there is nothing normal about it - new, but not normal.

    Will it ever go away?

    Depends on how long your fight lasts and how much more you have to go through. I can personally tell you that the longer you remain in the fight, that the effects of what you've done never truly go away - they just settle in as time passes. I'm just about to mark my 8th year in battle...I've had chemo 51x - rads 55x - major surgery 4x - cyberknife 3x.

    My body and mind has taken a whuppin'. No doubt about it. I still have to be at work at 8am and put in a full day as well. My reward for all of my tours of duty with cancer is to return to work and pretend that I'm the same man that I was before. I've left work 4x and returned 4x, but it does not get any easier, physically or mentally. Careers are challenging and surgeries can render you unable to do the things you used to do - and technology is moving so fast that 6 months or more away from work and a lifetime has passed you by as your co-workers speed past you while you are still trying to catch your breath and try to catch up to the rest of the group.

    You'll just have to work much harder at it each time you fight...I ache everyday, all day and at night when I go to sleep. Your life becomes like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole - and you're not only expected to do it - but do it and get on with it. People only see you at face value - they can't see the underlying scars and the changes in your physical aptitudes and mental attitudes.

    Nobody cuts me any slack anywhere in my life - I'm expected to do - and so I do...some people call that strength and courage - I just call it doing what you have to do, because nobody is going to do it for you. So, if I can't do it, I don't get - it really just comes down to that.

    I don't know your whole story yet on what has happened to you and if you're new to this or not....it does make somewhat of a difference when your mind and body is new to cancer, versus going through multiple recurrences and all that comes with that. It gets harder with each recurrence.

    Life is always challenging and testing us. My recent challenge (on top of my own health) is that I'm taking care of my dying dad now and now have to juggle all of his affairs in addition to our own....and my wife may have cancer...and I might have cancer for the 4th time. We don't know for sure, but things are lining up that way. This would be a real family challenge and somehow we have to meet it.

    Life is hard....life with cancer is much harder...if it were easy, we'd all be doing it.

    I don't have the easy answers for you - I can only tell you my perspective from someone who has battled cancer for 8-years...I've had it 3x - and walked away clean from it 3x.

    There will be change - you can try and run from it - or turn around and embrace it.

    Your physical body will never be the same...if you don't have to battle too much more, some normalcy may return to your life...the longer you are in the fight, the harder it gets everyday - to do everything that you were doing yesterday. You've got to work harder to do what used to come more easily and natural for you.

    From a personal growth standpoint, you will grow exponentially from this experience - won't happen overnight by any means....it is a process that you walk beside that becomes part of your journey. So there's good and bad that comes from cancer. It's a fascinating dichotomy.

    We can't choose that we got cancer - we got it and now we have to live with it for the rest of our lives....the choice becomes how will we deal with it? And how can we turn it so that I can get some meaning out of what I'm experiencing?

    Back in the early days of my cancer...I used to espouse this slogan, which I believed in during that phase of my life:

    "Cancer does not define me - but how I live with and fight cancer DOES define me."

    I've been busy with a sick and dying father, but have caught a post or two on you and I can see the struggles you are facing right now - and the questions you are asking yourself.

    This is good....self-examination and personal reflection go along way to determine where you are now - and where you want to go tomorrow.

    Take care, vent away...and then get out there and get after it:)

    -Craig
  • steved
    steved Member Posts: 834 Member
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    What is 'normal'?
    I appreciate your comments and don't see it as moaning- only expressing what we all feel at times. Our bodies feel like they have betrayed us by getting this cancer and continue to betray us on a daily basis. Bits don't work like they used to, some pieces are missing while others seem to grow when you don't want them to and then there are the are bits that just plain hurt. However, for many of us that has to be the norm and lived and adapted too and I am always surprised by what we can adapt to.
    We are also very individual in the how we best manage these feelings too. My personal battle is with pain and tiredness- am learning there are times when fighting it is right and others when giving into it is necessary. Each day is different- sometimes going to the gym when tired will give me energy and lying around at home will make me feel more tired! Work tires me but makes me feel like I achieved something which gives me energy!

    Find your own way each day of managing it all but don't let it rule you or rob you of your life.

    steve
  • steved
    steved Member Posts: 834 Member
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    What is 'normal'?
    I appreciate your comments and don't see it as moaning- only expressing what we all feel at times. Our bodies feel like they have betrayed us by getting this cancer and continue to betray us on a daily basis. Bits don't work like they used to, some pieces are missing while others seem to grow when you don't want them to and then there are the are bits that just plain hurt. However, for many of us that has to be the norm and lived and adapted too and I am always surprised by what we can adapt to.
    We are also very individual in the how we best manage these feelings too. My personal battle is with pain and tiredness- am learning there are times when fighting it is right and others when giving into it is necessary. Each day is different- sometimes going to the gym when tired will give me energy and lying around at home will make me feel more tired! Work tires me but makes me feel like I achieved something which gives me energy!

    Find your own way each day of managing it all but don't let it rule you or rob you of your life.

    steve
  • Doc_Hawk
    Doc_Hawk Member Posts: 685
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    Life changing says so much more now
    than it ever used to say. There's not a single aspect of my life that is the same as it was two years ago (my Dx date was 19 May, 2010.) Back then, I lived alone, just me and my dog, and last year I had to move into my parents house at the age of 52. One of my great passions in life is cooking, but now cooking scrambled eggs can be a major effort let alone making a complex meal with several courses. This past semester I only had two classes and those were on Tuesdays and Thursday and I had to miss roughly half of the days. My writing has suffered because I can only type at between 15 - 35 wpm now instead of the 100+ when my writing was hot. At the end of the Fall semester last year, I was just about as exhausted as I usually am at the end of an academic year and tonight I'm just about the most wiped out that I've ever been in my life. On top of all of that, I'm supposed to have a caregiver and yet I'm having to be a caregiver for my parents.

    Please do not take the above as complaining, simply explaining because I do not begrudge any of it. These are all parts of my life. It was my choice to move into my parents house and for eighteen years they took care of me, so it my pleasure to be here to take care of them. I do not have to be in the academic world, again it is my choice to help give my brain the activity that it needs. I would much rather spend my time thinking about academia than sitting around the house all day thinking about having cancer. And I am actually thankful to have colorectal cancer: I was a prime candidate for esophageal cancer because of my acid reflux, which had been untreated for two years. I watched a good friend die from that and I'm glad that I don't have to suffer that way.

    I have fought my fight with humor and by nurturing a stronger relationship with my daughter (we had been estranged for about three years) as well as with God and Jesus. Yes, there are times when I feel despair and wonder if the fight is really worth it all. I will be on chemo for the rest of my life, however long that is, and the only way that I'll beat cancer is to die from something else. So between now and then, I'm going to enjoy myself and do things that I've always wanted to do but couldn't because I had the agendas of others to work around.

    My best advice that I can give is to find ways to work around the pain and have as much fun as you feel you possibly can and then have a little bit more. Put together a bag that you can take with you that includes all of the medications that you might possibly need for a couple of days as well as spare underwear, adult diapers and pads, wet wipes, rubber gloves and anything else that you think you might need. And no it is not "normal" but this is our lives now and we must do whatever we can to have fun and laughs and enjoy each and every day.

    God Bless

    Doc
  • Lovekitties
    Lovekitties Member Posts: 3,364 Member
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    Dear Deb
    No, you are not a whiny baby. You are just telling it like it is.

    Will things improve? The answer is maybe or maybe not. But hopefully you will find things to take or do which will improve your comfort level.

    I have seen a number of lists of life events which cause stress. While most include "personal illness", none contain "being diagnosed or treated for cancer". Someone needs to add that to the top of the list! In my personal opinion, it trumps anything else you can name, because its effects (both mental and physical) never truely go away and bring so many more of life's stressors to our door. "Making the best of every day" takes on new meaning.

    We have to look harder for the little moments of pleasure in life. They are there hiding behind the rest of the stuff we now deal with.

    Hoping that you do find some measure of improvement in how you feel, but know that you can always come here and post about how you truely feel. We understand.

    Hugs,

    Marie who loves kitties
  • steveandnat
    steveandnat Member Posts: 886
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    we all know your pain
    This cancer mess we're all in is something else. The body is not the same and these awful aches and pain are terrible but I try to find way to remidy them. After trying to no avail it sometimes just becomes maintenance and a djuastment. I pray every day for certain aches to go away. Sometimes for some reason there are really good days and what a blessing that is. This cancer stuff is so crazy we just have to ride it out the best we can. Bless you and everyone else fighting this fight. Jeff
  • Luckygirl2
    Luckygirl2 Member Posts: 308
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    we all know your pain
    This cancer mess we're all in is something else. The body is not the same and these awful aches and pain are terrible but I try to find way to remidy them. After trying to no avail it sometimes just becomes maintenance and a djuastment. I pray every day for certain aches to go away. Sometimes for some reason there are really good days and what a blessing that is. This cancer stuff is so crazy we just have to ride it out the best we can. Bless you and everyone else fighting this fight. Jeff

    Thank you all
    So much! I always feel better after speaking with you all. This board is the first thing I check in the morning and last thing at night. So much inspiration and love!