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Having an alkaline body - questions

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We have talked about the connection between diet and fighting cancer. Lots about turmeric etc. Here are a few more things that I would like to know about. Please give feedback.

1. ground ginger and green tea. I met an old man yesterday at yoga class that said he was able to eliminate his arthritis pain - maybe arthritis itself - by drinking 1/4 teaspoon of ground ginger in green tea. I tried this and not bad. Any thoughts on this?

2. apple cider vinegar. I know of very healthy 86 year old that drinks vinegar water daily. She swears that the apple cider vinegar with "mother" (purchased at health food stores) is one thing that keeps her healthy. I believe this would contribute to making body alkaline. Any thoughts on this?

3. Also, how do we measure alkalinity in body? Do we get some litmus paper at drug store?

4. Has anyone heard of chia seeds? This is supposed to be very antioxidant. My yoga teacher told me "this will take cancer out of your body". Maybe they did!!

Mary Ann

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Keep on talking to those older folks. Apple cider vinegar is wonderful you and the mother looks mighty slimey but makes it extra special good. Regular white vinegar is acidic as all get out and should really just be used to clean out the coffee pot.

Litmus paper is the way to test your body's ph. I don't know if drug stores stock it much anymore. I would suggest googling testing body's ph, because the readings are different depending of where you test, urine or saliva. And there are parts of your body that need to be more acidic than other parts, like your stomach. People can get into trouble by taking too many tums cause they lower the acid content and interfere with digestion and allow some bacteria through.

Chia seeds are good but I'm pretty sure that the grass that you grow from them is even better due to the high chlorophyl content. Again google. I am in lot of tooth pain so ccan't really think right now.

turmeric and ginger are related and work on arthritis, turmeric works on lessening plaques that form in the brain and can help stave off? Alzheimer's. I would personallly eat fresh ginger too. also, baths with ginger act on your outside parts.

I gotta go take a pain killer, I did finally get some antibiotics. Life has been very, very painful of late.

Mary Ann, you mentioned you walked on a gold course. Try to be certain you don't walk into your house in your walking shoes, cause I read that golf courses have some of the highest pesticide residues.

Thinking of the chia made me think of the chia pets, and the love beads and crazy pants and tops, maybe we should start smoking pot. Just kidding.

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myself, I have got to find the answer. and lots of other things to do too.

Before we get to that, I am finding that one of the best things to do for arthritis is get that lymph fluid moving. Google lymph massage. there are even videos out there. On a personal, very personal note, since I started massaging my female sticking out parts, all the numberous lumps and bumps that they refered to as densnes are totally gone. Which to me means that the lymph fluid is no longer stagnant, and I was really worried about stagnant lymph surmizing that it could lead to cancer down the road, so I'm pretty happy, and apparently going out of my mind. This pain is killing me,

Love and kisses to you all,

Guess heheheheh who else would it be?? most of you are relatively sane.

According to the National Institutes of Health


By Joy Bauer
TODAY.com contributor TODAY.com contributor
updated 10/11/2007 12:03:22 PM ET 2007-10-11T16:03:22
Share Print Font: +-According to the National Institutes of Health, arthritis affects about one in every five people in the United States. Arthritis is not a single disease, but a category that includes about a hundred disorders that involve joints (osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis are the most common). Most people probably don’t realize how much nutrition can improve the way they feel.

Because arthritis is a disease of inflammation, the most effective — and logical — treatment is anything that fights inflammation. Medical management of arthritis usually starts with ibuprofen and other anti-inflammatory medications, and nutritional care starts with anti-inflammatory foods.

Before we get into my food specifics, I urge you tolose weight if you’re overweight. Being overweight puts extra stress on the joints, which increases the risk of wear and tear. In fact, every one pound of weight you lose equates to four pounds less stress and pressure on your knees. But there is another reason why being overweight is a problem. Body fat is not just an inert substance, it is metabolically active, capable of producing hormones and chemicals that actually increase levels of inflammation. By losing weight — and avoiding excess calories that can cause weight gain — you’ll automatically reduce the level of inflammation in your body.

When it comes to specific foods you should eat, an anti-inflammatory diet involves avoiding foods that make inflammation worse (saturated fat, trans fat and simple refined carbohydrate)… and eating plenty of foods that reduce inflammation.

These foods all help to reduce some aspect of inflammation:

Omega-3 fatty acids
The healthiest of fats for people with arthritis or other inflammatory disorders are omega-3 fatty acids, one of the polyunsaturated fats. While other foods increase levels of inflammation in the body, omega-3s actually work to decrease inflammation by suppressing the production of cytokines and enzymes that erode cartilage. More than a dozen studies have demonstrated that omega-3 fish oils can reduce symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis. Study participants reported greater strength, less fatigue, reduced joint swelling and tenderness, less joint stiffness and less pain.

Although the evidence is less clear about how fish oil affects osteoarthritis, the anti-inflammatory effects of omega-3s are so potent that I recommend an omega-3-rich diet (and, in some instances, fish-oil supplements) to all my clients with arthritis. I’ve seen some amazing success stories. The best foods for omega-3 fatty acids: salmon (wild, fresh or canned), herring, mackerel (not king), sardines, anchovies, rainbow trout, Pacific oysters, omega-3-fortified eggs, flaxseed (ground and oil), and walnuts.

.Extra-virgin olive oil
Olive oil contains the “good” monounsaturated fat, which protects the body against inflammation because it contains antioxidants called polyphenols. In animal studies, rats with arthritis were fed diets high in various kinds of oils. The researchers found that both fish oil and olive oil prevented (or helped reduce) arthritis-related inflammation. I recommend using olive oil when cooking, instead of vegetable oil or butter. Don’t load it on — just substitute one for the other in equal or lesser amounts.

Antioxidants—vitamin C, selenium, carotenes, bioflavonoids
Inflammation produces free radicals, those cell-damaging molecules that are formed in response to toxins or natural body processes. The synovium is just as prone to this kind of damage as the skin, eyes, or any other body tissue. Antioxidants protect the body from the effects of free radicals, and are a critical part of an anti-inflammation diet. Research has demonstrated that certain antioxidants may help prevent arthritis, slow its progression and relieve pain.

•Vitamin C: Vitamin C is one of the nutrients most responsible for the health of collagen, a major component of cartilage. In addition, research suggests that people who eat a diet low in vitamin C may have a greater risk of developing some kinds of arthritis. For those reasons, it is important to make vitamin C-rich foods an important part of your daily diet. However, researchers at Duke University found that long-term, high-dose vitamin C supplements may make osteoarthritis worse. I wouldn’t want you to risk your health with supplements, so if you have osteoarthritis, you should only get vitamin C from food sources — not from an individual supplement (100% of the Daily Value found in a standard multivitamin is fine, but avoid brands with larger amounts). Some of the best foods for vitamin C:guava, sweet peppers (yellow/red/green), oranges, grapefruit, strawberries, pineapple, kohlrabi, papayas, lemons, broccoli, kale, brussels sprouts, kidney beans, kiwi, cantaloupe, cauliflower, red cabbage, mangos, white potato (with skin) and mustard greens.

•Selenium: Low levels of the mineral selenium are related to osteoarthritis severity, and possibly to rheumatoid arthritis. In a study of more than 900 people, those who had low levels of selenium were more likely to have osteoarthritis of the knee. People who ate very few selenium-rich foods were nearly twice as likely to have severe arthritis compared with those who ate a selenium-rich diet. Some of the best foods for selenium:Brazil nuts, tuna (to avoid mercury, buy canned light tuna), crab, oysters, tilapia, pasta (whole-wheat), lean beef, cod, shrimp, whole grains, turkey and wheat germ.

•Carotenes: The carotenoids are a group of powerful antioxidant nutrients found in many fruits and vegetables. The best known is beta carotene , but there are many others. When it comes to arthritis, the carotenoid called beta-cryptoxanthin may reduce the risk of developing inflammation-related disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis. Researchers from the United Kingdom found that people who ate diets high in beta-cryptoxanthin were half as likely to develop a form of inflammatory arthritis as those who ate very few beta-cryptoxanthin foods. They found that adding just one additional serving each day of a food high in beta-cryptoxanthin helped reduce arthritis risk.

Some of the best foods for beta carotene include: sweet potato, carrots, kale, butternut squash, turnip greens, pumpkin, mustard greens, cantaloupe, sweet red pepper, apricots and spinach.

Some of the best foods for beta cryptoxanthin include: winter squash, pumpkin, persimmons, papaya, tangerines, red peppers, corn, oranges and apricots.

•Bioflavonoids — quercetin and anthocyanidins: The bioflavonoids quercetin and anthocyanidins are both forms of antioxidants. The anti-inflammatory effects of quercetin may seem to be similar to those of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medications (such as aspirin and ibuprofen). For example, the synovial fluid in joints of people with rheumatoid arthritis contain highly inflammatory chemicals called tumor necrosis factor (TNF). In research, quercetin was able to limit the inflammatory effects of TNF. Some of the best foods for quercetin:onions (red, yellow, white), kale, leeks, cherry tomatoes, broccoli, blueberries, black currants, elderberries, lingonberries, cocoa powder, apricots and apples with skin (*Red Delicious).

Anthocyanidins and proanthocyanidins are powerful antioxidants known to reduce inflammation. They seem to inhibit production of certain inflammatory chemicals, including cytokines and prostaglandins. They contribute to the health of connective tissue, and are more powerful than vitamin C for defusing dangerous free radicals that can irritate body tissues and cause inflammation. Some of the best foods for anthocyanidins: blackberries, black currants, blueberries, eggplant, elderberries, raspberries, cherries, boysenberries, red/black grapes, strawberries and plums
Spices—ginger and turmeric
Most people don’t realize that spices are a part of nutrition. Like fruits and vegetables, spices come from plant sources, and they can have powerful effects on health. Certain spices seem to have anti-inflammatory effects, and therefore should be considered for arthritis treatment. Among the most promising are ginger and turmeric. Ginger contains chemicals that work similarly to some anti-inflammatory medications, so its effects on arthritis pain are not surprising. However, ginger can also act as a blood thinner, so anyone taking a blood-thinning medication should collaborate with their personal physician when adding foods and beverages seasoned with ginger. To incorporate more ginger into your diet, grate fresh ginger into stir-fries, enjoy ginger tea and bake low-fat ginger muffins.

Turmeric, sometimes called curcumin, is a mustard-yellow spice from Asia. It is the main ingredient in yellow curry. Scientific studies have shown that turmeric may help arthritis by suppressing inflammatory body chemicals. Enjoy chicken curry and healthy recipes that call for this anti-inflammatory seasoning.

Joy Bauer is the author of “Food Cures.” For more information on healthy eating, check out Joy’s Web site at www.joybauernutrition.com

Cindy Bear
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Today while desperately searching for a recipe for tomorrow's work potluck.. yes the infamous dreaded work potluck... I came across this recipe.. and thought of you ladies . It has ginger and is supposedly from the Mayo Clinic.. so here goes.

4 4 4-8 Servings Size


4 large portabella mushrooms or 8 baby portabella mushrooms
1/4 cup balsamic vinegar
1/2 cup pineapple juice
2 tablespoons chopped fresh ginger, peeled
black pepper (optional)
1 tablespoon chopped fresh basil
Change Measurements: US | Metric

Prep Time: 5 mins

Total Time: 1 1/4 hr
1 Clean mushrooms with a damp cloth and remove their stems. Place in a glass dish, stemless (gill) side up.
2 To prepare the marinade, in a small bowl whisk together the vinegar, pineapple juice and ginger. Drizzle the marinade over the mushrooms. Cover and let marinate in the refrigerator for about 1 hour, turning mushrooms once.
3 Prepare a hot fire in a charcoal grill or heat gas grill or broiler. Away from the heat source, lightly coat the grill rack or broiler pan with cooking spray. Position the cooking rack 4 to 6 inches form the heat source.
4 Grill or broil the mushrooms on medium heat, turning often, until tender, about 5 minutes on each side. Baste with marinade to keep from drying out. Using tongs, transfer the mushrooms to a serving platter. Garnish with basil and serve immediately.

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