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May I ask what happened to Pete 42 lost at seas "Tea" post that ended up with apricot kernels and info. ?

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Would simply like to know where it went or went awry ?

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you right!

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Thanks for asking!!!

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Black hands?LOL!

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Just guessing...

It may be that the post was removed because Laetrile which is the extract from apricot seeds is not legal in the US, but apparently is in Mexico and Canada. That is the treatment Steve McQueen did in Mexico for his cancer. The treatment failed.

Apricot seeds also contain cyanide which is lethal.

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I know there's controversy over the apricot seeds. I've done lots of reading on both sides of opinions on this. The proponents of eating or grinding up bitter apricot seeds claim that the laetrile/cyanide in the seeds is not actually toxic at those doses like some claim & that it isn't harmful to healthy cells, just the cancer cells & they go on to state all the people who have taken them with no negative side effects but with helpful effects to getting rid of tumors. The claim is they're only illegal because no money can be made off them. I read about some Sloan Kettering study that had good results & the claim was that they kept tweaking the way the study was done numerous times until they came up with bad results and then declared it dangerous. Then there's the other side who says they are dangerous and they site people who had negative effects from it and that there's no proof that it does anything against cancer.
I guess that's the way it is with many natural supplements and treatments- you read oppositive viewpoints and you don't know what to think.
Myself, well after reading lots and lots, I actually went ahead and ordered a 1 lb bag of apricot seeds, also called apricot kernals. Yes, I'm going to venture forth and try taking them. I'll let you know...(and yes I will discuss it with my oncologist).
I am ordering and getting them from an internet source in northern california and was told they are not actually illegal. If they were to call it laetrile treatment, then it would be outlawed, but when selling them as apricot kernals and as a "food", it supposedly is still legal.
I don't know what to think, but I guess desperate people do desperate things. The chemo hasn't been doing it for me, so I ventured out to a naturopathic dr. Didn't drop the chemo, but am doing both kinds of treatments together. Now, I'm going to add the apricot kernals.

Lisa

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We may need to assign some sort of code-word to use when discussing this issue if they're deleting posts...

Just sayin'
Janine

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The only way CSN workers would probably notice anything about it since it was embedded within a post and it's over a weekend is because someone flagged it.

I'd like to know why someone thought it was so bad they flagged it.

I think the code word is apricot kernels and we should avoid the "L" word unless we are talking about lesbians!

I personally know 2 guys that have had great success with apricot kernels as they fought prostate cancer. Both have been cancer free for years.

Let's see how long before our mystery flagger does his/her thing!

Lisa P.

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I know of 2 guys who had some success with some lesbians too!
No one switched teams but a good time was had by all
;-)

See what happens when I take a break from here, everything goes to hell...
Was this a current post or something from long ago (and far away). I do remember a while ago (4-5 months?) when that topic came up and got nasty, as they sometimes do, then it got pulled when the name calling started.

OK, time to go again.

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This was a different and more recent post & there was no name calling. Pete just shared the ingredients to those who were interested in his traditional chinese medicine tea that his naturopathic has him taking. I don't think there were any problems & Pete even said something like he wasn't trying to convince anyone on this thread, but was just posting what was in his tea for those who were interested because I guess someone asked him about what was in the tea. Don't know anything more than that about why it disappeared!
Moving on... :)

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HA!

Maybe the anti-tea league threatened Pete's family with cyanide and made him delete it! :-{)

Did a search for Laetrile, and for apricot seeds. Plenty of threads on both.

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Guess we'll find out tomorrow but as it was it was interesting and I was the one that copied and pasted that into a post so the "L" word was in there....
and yes Lisa42, apple seeds by themselves are cyanide as why they are bitter, but not to the limit that eating them alone might kill someone, hopefully no one tries that. But, the apple itself is sweet enough to ward off most of the bitter taste if a seed is bitten into. I also read the same report done at Sloan-Kettering and it seems odd that so much was discovered and then determined that "we won't go there any longer"....kinda makes me wonder, does it you ?
Now, if its watermelon seeds that will cure cancer then I should have been free a long time ago. We use to swallow them on a dare to see if yes indeed watermelon plants would grow out of your ears......Thats what they use to tell us...Well. they don't, they just make ya goofy, Im living proof of that..........buzz

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See I said it.

If that was it there would not be five pages mentioning it, going all the way back to 2001.

Maybe tomorrow they will all mysteriously disappear? :-0

Or, maybe I will meet a couple of that other L word and have some fun! (not going to happen, my lifespan would be less than 24 hours if it did!)

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Cuz lesbians don't sleep with men anyway!

Bisexuals do...........

But I guess anything is possible in fantasyland.

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Is a wonderful thing. Too bad reality keeps getting in the way.

;)

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I wrote you short note also, you were the first person to respond to me about my dad with stage 4 colon cancer on cancer compass. My dad and you both at that time had good news to share. I am glad to find you. My dad has been taking both the seeds and the laetrile. When you get the seeds they need to be bitter not sweet. Not cooked or radiated. The first time he took the seeds I went out and bought apricots. I took all the seeds out and made smoothies with the fruit. You also need zinc for the carrier. Also juice the center of the pinapple to help strip the coating of the cancer cell or you could find a supplement for this. I haven't read any of your post except this one and your profile. So you may know this already.

Dad was taken off of the chemo last Oct and told to go home. Dad was really upset. Another woman that he befriended was sent home the same day as him. She passed 20 days later. She did no alternatives. I think my dad is still here because we have been using lots of natural products and detoxification by essica tea. Also boosting the immune system with AHCC. Raising the platelets with chlorella from 90 to 130 ish. We got the CEA down to 5 once. Then the doctors decided to send dad for a clinical trial which just cause a temporary high blood sugar and the tumors to grow faster. Dad seem to think now that the cancer is gone. We don't know. He is going to try to see what is going on next week.

Yaziza

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That was still a different post.

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I know many of you may have found the discussion stimulating (as I did). To set the record straight, there isn't a list of words or drugs that are forbidden on CSN (except profanity). So laetrile was not the issue.

Lately, some of the information sharing has been drifting on to the slippery slope of advice-giving (despite disclaimers and encouragement to speak to your physician). I'm not able to read all posts myself so there are likely many that fall into this category that have not been deleted. It is also difficult to always determine at what point something crosses the line into advice giving. Sometimes I may err by deleting a post and sometimes I may err by not deleting a post.

In this particular case, I determined it crossed the line.

Best,
Greta
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Thanks for solving the mystery!

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I thought it had to do with the "Tea Party" or something...
Talk about deadly slippery slopes!
;-)

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hahaha!

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but if you don't mind would you pm the mistake to me so that I will try to avoid the mistake next time.....Thanks, buzz

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You didn't make a mistake, Buzz. When the originating post is deleted (where the transgression occurred), all replies are automatically deleted. This is standard practice for discussion boards and makes sense when you consider that the replies lose context if what was being replied to isn't there. The downside is that we lose the great conversation that took place as a result of the original post.

Best,
greta
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Goody goody goody, I thought I had cost myself an Easter Basket by being a bad boy. Thanks Greta, I will be sure to put in a word with (Santa Clause) just for you...I know him too I saw him one night while they thought I was sleeping.
Thanks Maam........buzz

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I hate to be the one to break it to you, well, umm, the thing is, uh,

Oh never mind.

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"When the originating post is deleted (where the transgression occurred), all replies are automatically deleted. This is standard practice for discussion boards and makes sense when you consider that the replies lose context if what was being replied to isn't there."

No, it isn't standard practice for discussion boards. I've used discussion boards for quite a long time, and I have often encountered this situation where a post which has been quoted by a later post disappears, making the later post difficult to interpret. It's arguable that it should be standard practice, I suppose, but in fact, it's not standard practice.

--Greg

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Having worked on websites for a number of years and having some experience with message boards, the way many (not all) message boards are structured is that it's sort of modular in design. Or think of it like a tree, if you cut of one limb (the main post or thread) the branches come down with it (the posts). It's easy to remove posts (trim branches) since they are offshoots of the main thread. Based on the search I did it's common practice to allow the originator of the thread to be able to edit his/her original thread or to delete the entire thread. It is also up to the moderator to keep try to maintain the TOS/T&C of the site.

~from Wiki
"Offending content is usually deleted. Sometimes if the topic is considered the source of the problem, it is locked; often a poster may request a topic expected to draw problems to be locked as well, although the moderators decide whether to grant it. In a locked thread, members cannot post anymore. In cases where the topic is considered a breach of rules it – with all of its posts – may be deleted."

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It seems I get into trouble with posting just before going to sleep.

what I thought was the most harmless little post about my tea herbs and a little praise for the best chinese oncologist probably in Australia was pulled.

It only was post in response to requests for the info and I actually hassled my onc to get his formula. Mind you I was glad to finally get it myself, well its had been deleted by the time I came back here.

I am curious about what was said and the apricots kernels but will never know. I am happy to accept the umpires verdict. I may have crossed aline inadvertently. But I could not see the harm in discussing tea herbs, its like sharing a food recipe. never mind. I would have been glad to make suitable amendments, but that not really practical given timeframes and timezones. I appreciate the service here.

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