Does anyone take BTC?

Erinb
Erinb Member Posts: 293
Does anyone take BTC? Have you found any success with it?
Thanks,
Erin

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  • Buzzard
    Buzzard Member Posts: 3,043 Member
    What is it ????????
    what does BTC stand for ?? couldn't find it
  • CherylHutch
    CherylHutch Member Posts: 1,375
    BTC?
    Bacon, Tomato and Cheese? Love them!! :D But have not actually eaten them as a treatment :)

    Seriously... you are going to have to give us a bit more of a clue as to what a BTC is... the imagination can come up with all kinds of definitions :D

    Cheryl
  • Buzzard
    Buzzard Member Posts: 3,043 Member

    BTC?
    Bacon, Tomato and Cheese? Love them!! :D But have not actually eaten them as a treatment :)

    Seriously... you are going to have to give us a bit more of a clue as to what a BTC is... the imagination can come up with all kinds of definitions :D

    Cheryl

    Cheryl.................you just ain't right...........LOL
    Nope, you just ain't right girlfriend......... :) ...buzzour.....Honorary Canuck (according to AnneCan)
  • LindaJS
    LindaJS Member Posts: 20 Member
    I think its Bovine Tracheal
    I think its Bovine Tracheal Cartilage? (Dont ask me how I know that - I have no idea - I can barely remember my bank access number but I know that! What a weirdo!).

    I dont know anyone who takes it personally - is it supposed to work like Glucosamine? It needs a new name because I think I prefer the sound of Bacon Tomato & Cheese! I'd speak to an Onc first before taking it (as Im sure you would) - Im probably overly cautious and Im sure its perfectly fine but check out the risks with some of the animal based supplements (plus BSE etc).
  • Buzzard
    Buzzard Member Posts: 3,043 Member
    LindaJS said:

    I think its Bovine Tracheal
    I think its Bovine Tracheal Cartilage? (Dont ask me how I know that - I have no idea - I can barely remember my bank access number but I know that! What a weirdo!).

    I dont know anyone who takes it personally - is it supposed to work like Glucosamine? It needs a new name because I think I prefer the sound of Bacon Tomato & Cheese! I'd speak to an Onc first before taking it (as Im sure you would) - Im probably overly cautious and Im sure its perfectly fine but check out the risks with some of the animal based supplements (plus BSE etc).

    Did a little googling on it.......
    Heres a few items.

    Questions and Answers About Cartilage (Bovine and Shark)

    1. What is cartilage?

    Cartilage is a type of tough, flexible connective tissue that forms parts of the skeleton in many animals. Cartilage contains cells called chondrocytes, which are surrounded by collagen (a fibrous protein) and proteoglycans, which are made of protein and carbohydrate.

    Products containing cartilage are sold in the United States as dietary supplements. Companies that make cartilage products may not have a process in place to check that all batches they make are exactly the same. This means different batches of a cartilage product may contain different amounts or strengths of ingredients. Different binding agents (substances that make loose mixtures stick together) and fillers may be used in different batches. Therefore, the results of a particular clinical trial may be true only for the batch that was used in the study.
    2. What is the history of the discovery and use of cartilage as a complementary or alternative treatment for cancer?

    Cartilage from cows (bovine cartilage) and sharks has been studied as a treatment for cancer and other medical conditions for more than 30 years. It was once believed that sharks, whose skeletons are made mostly from cartilage, do not develop cancer. This caused interest in cartilage as a possible treatment for cancer. Although malignant tumors are rare in sharks, cancers have been found in these animals.

    Early studies used extracts of bovine cartilage.
    * In the 1960s, it was first reported that bovine cartilage decreased inflammation (redness, swelling, pain, and feeling of heat).
    * In the 1970s, it was first reported that bovine cartilage contains a substance that blocks angiogenesis (the forming of new blood vessels). If blood vessel growth into a tumor can be blocked, the tumor will stop growing or shrink.
    * In the 1980s, researchers first described laboratory and animal studies and clinical trials (research studies in people) testing bovine cartilage as a treatment for cancer.

    Interest in using shark cartilage grew because it was believed that shark cartilage may be more active than bovine cartilage in preventing new blood vessels from being formed. Since a shark's skeleton is made mostly of cartilage, shark cartilage is more plentiful than bovine cartilage.
    * In the 1980s, it was first published that shark cartilage contains a substance that blocks blood vessel growth.
    * In 1998 and 2005, there were published reports of clinical trials of shark cartilage as a treatment for cancer.

    *****NOTE******** Have any side effects or risks been reported from cartilage?

    The side effects of cartilage treatment are usually mild or moderate.

    The most common side effects of treatment with the bovine cartilage product Catrix include the following:

    * Inflammation at the injection location.
    * A bad taste in the mouth.
    * Feeling very tired.
    * Nausea.
    * Upset stomach.
    * Fever.
    * Feeling dizzy.
    * Swelling of the scrotum (the sac that contains the testicles).

    The most common side effects of treatment with the shark cartilage include the following:

    * Nausea.
    * Vomiting.
    * Abdominal cramps and/or bloating.
    * Constipation.
    * Lower than normal blood pressure.
    * Higher than normal blood sugar.
    * General weakness.
    * A higher than normal level of calcium in the blood.

    Nausea, vomiting, and upset stomach are the side effects reported most often from treatment with the shark cartilage product AE–941/Neovastat.

    There has been one report of hepatitis occurring in a person who used shark cartilage.
    # Is cartilage approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use as a cancer treatment in the United States?

    The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved cartilage as a treatment for cancer. A number of cartilage products are sold in the United States as dietary supplements. In the United States, dietary supplements are regulated as foods, not drugs. A company does not need FDA approval to sell a dietary supplement unless it claims the product can treat or prevent disease.

    Thanks...learned something new in this........
  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624 Member
    Buzzard said:

    Did a little googling on it.......
    Heres a few items.

    Questions and Answers About Cartilage (Bovine and Shark)

    1. What is cartilage?

    Cartilage is a type of tough, flexible connective tissue that forms parts of the skeleton in many animals. Cartilage contains cells called chondrocytes, which are surrounded by collagen (a fibrous protein) and proteoglycans, which are made of protein and carbohydrate.

    Products containing cartilage are sold in the United States as dietary supplements. Companies that make cartilage products may not have a process in place to check that all batches they make are exactly the same. This means different batches of a cartilage product may contain different amounts or strengths of ingredients. Different binding agents (substances that make loose mixtures stick together) and fillers may be used in different batches. Therefore, the results of a particular clinical trial may be true only for the batch that was used in the study.
    2. What is the history of the discovery and use of cartilage as a complementary or alternative treatment for cancer?

    Cartilage from cows (bovine cartilage) and sharks has been studied as a treatment for cancer and other medical conditions for more than 30 years. It was once believed that sharks, whose skeletons are made mostly from cartilage, do not develop cancer. This caused interest in cartilage as a possible treatment for cancer. Although malignant tumors are rare in sharks, cancers have been found in these animals.

    Early studies used extracts of bovine cartilage.
    * In the 1960s, it was first reported that bovine cartilage decreased inflammation (redness, swelling, pain, and feeling of heat).
    * In the 1970s, it was first reported that bovine cartilage contains a substance that blocks angiogenesis (the forming of new blood vessels). If blood vessel growth into a tumor can be blocked, the tumor will stop growing or shrink.
    * In the 1980s, researchers first described laboratory and animal studies and clinical trials (research studies in people) testing bovine cartilage as a treatment for cancer.

    Interest in using shark cartilage grew because it was believed that shark cartilage may be more active than bovine cartilage in preventing new blood vessels from being formed. Since a shark's skeleton is made mostly of cartilage, shark cartilage is more plentiful than bovine cartilage.
    * In the 1980s, it was first published that shark cartilage contains a substance that blocks blood vessel growth.
    * In 1998 and 2005, there were published reports of clinical trials of shark cartilage as a treatment for cancer.

    *****NOTE******** Have any side effects or risks been reported from cartilage?

    The side effects of cartilage treatment are usually mild or moderate.

    The most common side effects of treatment with the bovine cartilage product Catrix include the following:

    * Inflammation at the injection location.
    * A bad taste in the mouth.
    * Feeling very tired.
    * Nausea.
    * Upset stomach.
    * Fever.
    * Feeling dizzy.
    * Swelling of the scrotum (the sac that contains the testicles).

    The most common side effects of treatment with the shark cartilage include the following:

    * Nausea.
    * Vomiting.
    * Abdominal cramps and/or bloating.
    * Constipation.
    * Lower than normal blood pressure.
    * Higher than normal blood sugar.
    * General weakness.
    * A higher than normal level of calcium in the blood.

    Nausea, vomiting, and upset stomach are the side effects reported most often from treatment with the shark cartilage product AE–941/Neovastat.

    There has been one report of hepatitis occurring in a person who used shark cartilage.
    # Is cartilage approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use as a cancer treatment in the United States?

    The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved cartilage as a treatment for cancer. A number of cartilage products are sold in the United States as dietary supplements. In the United States, dietary supplements are regulated as foods, not drugs. A company does not need FDA approval to sell a dietary supplement unless it claims the product can treat or prevent disease.

    Thanks...learned something new in this........

    Oh My Gosh
    Kerry!!!
    Why did you have to bring up BOVINE????
    I've been trying to get that stupid song "Cows with Guns" out of my mind for the past 3 days, now it's right back in there, the tune going around and around in my head.
    Dang.
    Winter Marie
  • CherylHutch
    CherylHutch Member Posts: 1,375
    Buzzard said:

    Did a little googling on it.......
    Heres a few items.

    Questions and Answers About Cartilage (Bovine and Shark)

    1. What is cartilage?

    Cartilage is a type of tough, flexible connective tissue that forms parts of the skeleton in many animals. Cartilage contains cells called chondrocytes, which are surrounded by collagen (a fibrous protein) and proteoglycans, which are made of protein and carbohydrate.

    Products containing cartilage are sold in the United States as dietary supplements. Companies that make cartilage products may not have a process in place to check that all batches they make are exactly the same. This means different batches of a cartilage product may contain different amounts or strengths of ingredients. Different binding agents (substances that make loose mixtures stick together) and fillers may be used in different batches. Therefore, the results of a particular clinical trial may be true only for the batch that was used in the study.
    2. What is the history of the discovery and use of cartilage as a complementary or alternative treatment for cancer?

    Cartilage from cows (bovine cartilage) and sharks has been studied as a treatment for cancer and other medical conditions for more than 30 years. It was once believed that sharks, whose skeletons are made mostly from cartilage, do not develop cancer. This caused interest in cartilage as a possible treatment for cancer. Although malignant tumors are rare in sharks, cancers have been found in these animals.

    Early studies used extracts of bovine cartilage.
    * In the 1960s, it was first reported that bovine cartilage decreased inflammation (redness, swelling, pain, and feeling of heat).
    * In the 1970s, it was first reported that bovine cartilage contains a substance that blocks angiogenesis (the forming of new blood vessels). If blood vessel growth into a tumor can be blocked, the tumor will stop growing or shrink.
    * In the 1980s, researchers first described laboratory and animal studies and clinical trials (research studies in people) testing bovine cartilage as a treatment for cancer.

    Interest in using shark cartilage grew because it was believed that shark cartilage may be more active than bovine cartilage in preventing new blood vessels from being formed. Since a shark's skeleton is made mostly of cartilage, shark cartilage is more plentiful than bovine cartilage.
    * In the 1980s, it was first published that shark cartilage contains a substance that blocks blood vessel growth.
    * In 1998 and 2005, there were published reports of clinical trials of shark cartilage as a treatment for cancer.

    *****NOTE******** Have any side effects or risks been reported from cartilage?

    The side effects of cartilage treatment are usually mild or moderate.

    The most common side effects of treatment with the bovine cartilage product Catrix include the following:

    * Inflammation at the injection location.
    * A bad taste in the mouth.
    * Feeling very tired.
    * Nausea.
    * Upset stomach.
    * Fever.
    * Feeling dizzy.
    * Swelling of the scrotum (the sac that contains the testicles).

    The most common side effects of treatment with the shark cartilage include the following:

    * Nausea.
    * Vomiting.
    * Abdominal cramps and/or bloating.
    * Constipation.
    * Lower than normal blood pressure.
    * Higher than normal blood sugar.
    * General weakness.
    * A higher than normal level of calcium in the blood.

    Nausea, vomiting, and upset stomach are the side effects reported most often from treatment with the shark cartilage product AE–941/Neovastat.

    There has been one report of hepatitis occurring in a person who used shark cartilage.
    # Is cartilage approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use as a cancer treatment in the United States?

    The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved cartilage as a treatment for cancer. A number of cartilage products are sold in the United States as dietary supplements. In the United States, dietary supplements are regulated as foods, not drugs. A company does not need FDA approval to sell a dietary supplement unless it claims the product can treat or prevent disease.

    Thanks...learned something new in this........

    Ahhhh I remember Shark's Cartilage!
    Yes... back in the 80s, this was a big thing. At the time, of course, I did not have cancer so was not thinking of this as a cancer treatment. But all the "alternative" things I was reading were going on about this wonderful supplement made of shark's cartilage that would solve any joint/inflammation/arthritis problems known to mankind. Hey, I was willing to try anything and at that time, my arthritis really was pretty mild.

    Needless to say, it didn't do anything for my inflammation or joint pain. But then, the horrors of where/how they got the shark cartilage for these wonder supplements (in pill form). It was (and still is) a huge industry in Japan (and I believe China to some degree) where they harvest sharks. It's a very cruel and barbaric industry. Another part of the shark is their fins... and they will harvest sharks, cut off their fins, and then allow them to sink to the bottom while still alive.

    An American supplement company, Lane Labs, made claim that Shark Cartilage would cure cancer and they had no proof that it did and to this day there's been no scientific proof. Back in 2005 Lane Labs was found guilty and had to pay back all their customers the money they had spent on shark cartilage supplements/products from them.

    So, as much as we all would love to find the magic pill/bullet/drug that would cure our cancer once and for all... sometimes our desperation for that leads us to try anything that anyone whispers might be a potential cure. And the greedy marketers out there will prey on our desperation and take our money if we let them. Meanwhile, in the case of the shark cartilage debate... we are quickly going to be depleting our oceans of our much needed sharks because we can pulverize their skeletons, their fins, into pill form and someone gets to make a lot of money.

    I say... save the shark! Eat a banana :)

    Cheryl
  • CherylHutch
    CherylHutch Member Posts: 1,375
    Buzzard said:

    Cheryl.................you just ain't right...........LOL
    Nope, you just ain't right girlfriend......... :) ...buzzour.....Honorary Canuck (according to AnneCan)

    I know... Buzz.... I'm a hazzard!!
    It's true... sometimes there's just no hope for me! And the scary part is... not everyone gets my humour, when I'm on a roll :)

    Of course, I'll never admit fault... I'll blame it on the drugs! On Chemo brain! On not having enough protein/carbs/sugar! Or, if that doesn't work, I'll blame it on having had too much protein/carbs/sugar :)

    And if none of that works, then it's the dog's fault. It's ALWAYS the dog's fault :)

    Cheryl
  • Ahhhh I remember Shark's Cartilage!
    Yes... back in the 80s, this was a big thing. At the time, of course, I did not have cancer so was not thinking of this as a cancer treatment. But all the "alternative" things I was reading were going on about this wonderful supplement made of shark's cartilage that would solve any joint/inflammation/arthritis problems known to mankind. Hey, I was willing to try anything and at that time, my arthritis really was pretty mild.

    Needless to say, it didn't do anything for my inflammation or joint pain. But then, the horrors of where/how they got the shark cartilage for these wonder supplements (in pill form). It was (and still is) a huge industry in Japan (and I believe China to some degree) where they harvest sharks. It's a very cruel and barbaric industry. Another part of the shark is their fins... and they will harvest sharks, cut off their fins, and then allow them to sink to the bottom while still alive.

    An American supplement company, Lane Labs, made claim that Shark Cartilage would cure cancer and they had no proof that it did and to this day there's been no scientific proof. Back in 2005 Lane Labs was found guilty and had to pay back all their customers the money they had spent on shark cartilage supplements/products from them.

    So, as much as we all would love to find the magic pill/bullet/drug that would cure our cancer once and for all... sometimes our desperation for that leads us to try anything that anyone whispers might be a potential cure. And the greedy marketers out there will prey on our desperation and take our money if we let them. Meanwhile, in the case of the shark cartilage debate... we are quickly going to be depleting our oceans of our much needed sharks because we can pulverize their skeletons, their fins, into pill form and someone gets to make a lot of money.

    I say... save the shark! Eat a banana :)

    Cheryl

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