Tell me about the inflammation due to chemo (Miriam, or anyone)

In a nutshell, I developed
In a nutshell, I developed inflammation in my joints and carpal tunnel during chemo and became really bad after chemo. The carpal tunnel affected me while sleeping and upon waking and getting out of bed my ankles, knees, my feet and sometimes my hips hurt. It was painful to walk to the bathroom. I couldn’t make a fist or bend my fingers because of the pain. However when I exercised the pain went away and came back after stopping. I did show swelling in the hands and feet well after the bulk of the water retention went away.

The orthopedic surgeon is convinced this is because of chemo and/or after affects of the steroids taken during chemo. I did have the blood work done for rheumatoid arthiritis and it came back negative. Other than taking non-steroidal anti-inflammatries she won’t give me anything else because she feels this will only make the inflammation worse long term and I really need a break from all the drugs. She sent me to a physical therapist for the carpal tunnel and tennis elbow (for which she did give a localized cortisone shot). This was a huge help and we figured out how I could manage the discomfort. Heat and massage help immensely as does swimming (for all my joints) so I cut back on the African dance and Zumba and now swim twice a week for 40 minutes. I also have a squeeze ball to build up the strength in my hands.

The orthopedic surgeon has me visiting her once a month to check up on how I am doing and for the tennis elbow which is making no progress towards getting better. Both the orthopedic surgeon and the physical therapist have told me that they cannot make the inflammation go away or ‘cure’ it but only help me manage it and find ways to ease the discomfort and along with the Onc. I have been told it could take a year or more before it goes away completely.
The Chinese Herbalist told me that I am having this problem, inflammation in my joints because of Kidney Ying deficiency, in other words my kidneys are straining to cope with the after affects of chemo and steroids and other drugs used however I need to keep going with the Herceptin. So far, I haven’t taken any herbs for the kidneys but am considering acupuncture to see if it can help my kidneys cope better although I do have nothing serious going on with my kidneys. The Chinese Herbalist told me this may take a year or more to resolve.

I just take it one day at a time. Some days I am almost normal and other days I hobble about each time I stand up however I am still able to exercise and eat well. The best I can do is to keep doing what helps me, heat, massage, compression gloves and socks at night, carpal tunnel braces at night, squeeze ball for hands, roll my feet on a tennis ball, swimming etc.

Apparently this is not uncommon after chemo. Hope this helps and I hope you find a way to minimise the discomfort.

take care
Mariam

mariam_11_09 said:

In a nutshell, I developed
In a nutshell, I developed inflammation in my joints and carpal tunnel during chemo and became really bad after chemo. The carpal tunnel affected me while sleeping and upon waking and getting out of bed my ankles, knees, my feet and sometimes my hips hurt. It was painful to walk to the bathroom. I couldn’t make a fist or bend my fingers because of the pain. However when I exercised the pain went away and came back after stopping. I did show swelling in the hands and feet well after the bulk of the water retention went away.

The orthopedic surgeon is convinced this is because of chemo and/or after affects of the steroids taken during chemo. I did have the blood work done for rheumatoid arthiritis and it came back negative. Other than taking non-steroidal anti-inflammatries she won’t give me anything else because she feels this will only make the inflammation worse long term and I really need a break from all the drugs. She sent me to a physical therapist for the carpal tunnel and tennis elbow (for which she did give a localized cortisone shot). This was a huge help and we figured out how I could manage the discomfort. Heat and massage help immensely as does swimming (for all my joints) so I cut back on the African dance and Zumba and now swim twice a week for 40 minutes. I also have a squeeze ball to build up the strength in my hands.

The orthopedic surgeon has me visiting her once a month to check up on how I am doing and for the tennis elbow which is making no progress towards getting better. Both the orthopedic surgeon and the physical therapist have told me that they cannot make the inflammation go away or ‘cure’ it but only help me manage it and find ways to ease the discomfort and along with the Onc. I have been told it could take a year or more before it goes away completely.
The Chinese Herbalist told me that I am having this problem, inflammation in my joints because of Kidney Ying deficiency, in other words my kidneys are straining to cope with the after affects of chemo and steroids and other drugs used however I need to keep going with the Herceptin. So far, I haven’t taken any herbs for the kidneys but am considering acupuncture to see if it can help my kidneys cope better although I do have nothing serious going on with my kidneys. The Chinese Herbalist told me this may take a year or more to resolve.

I just take it one day at a time. Some days I am almost normal and other days I hobble about each time I stand up however I am still able to exercise and eat well. The best I can do is to keep doing what helps me, heat, massage, compression gloves and socks at night, carpal tunnel braces at night, squeeze ball for hands, roll my feet on a tennis ball, swimming etc.

Apparently this is not uncommon after chemo. Hope this helps and I hope you find a way to minimise the discomfort.

take care
Mariam

Wow !!! Mariam - question.
I have been having carpal tunnel like symptoms and arthritis in my hand since my last chemo treatment (Oct) Everything you talk about relating to the fingers is me. But I feel extremly thankful that I don't have it all over like you. It's been 4 months now and it is better - I can sleep through the night without waking up from the pain in my hands. My question for you is... How long did it take for the pain and swelling to go away? Oh by the way - I also have neuropathy in my fingers - it's alot better though. did you have that too? I take naperson(sp) for the swelling and pain - Which I guess helps.

thanks, Kelly

mariam_11_09 said:

In a nutshell, I developed
In a nutshell, I developed inflammation in my joints and carpal tunnel during chemo and became really bad after chemo. The carpal tunnel affected me while sleeping and upon waking and getting out of bed my ankles, knees, my feet and sometimes my hips hurt. It was painful to walk to the bathroom. I couldn’t make a fist or bend my fingers because of the pain. However when I exercised the pain went away and came back after stopping. I did show swelling in the hands and feet well after the bulk of the water retention went away.

The orthopedic surgeon is convinced this is because of chemo and/or after affects of the steroids taken during chemo. I did have the blood work done for rheumatoid arthiritis and it came back negative. Other than taking non-steroidal anti-inflammatries she won’t give me anything else because she feels this will only make the inflammation worse long term and I really need a break from all the drugs. She sent me to a physical therapist for the carpal tunnel and tennis elbow (for which she did give a localized cortisone shot). This was a huge help and we figured out how I could manage the discomfort. Heat and massage help immensely as does swimming (for all my joints) so I cut back on the African dance and Zumba and now swim twice a week for 40 minutes. I also have a squeeze ball to build up the strength in my hands.

The orthopedic surgeon has me visiting her once a month to check up on how I am doing and for the tennis elbow which is making no progress towards getting better. Both the orthopedic surgeon and the physical therapist have told me that they cannot make the inflammation go away or ‘cure’ it but only help me manage it and find ways to ease the discomfort and along with the Onc. I have been told it could take a year or more before it goes away completely.
The Chinese Herbalist told me that I am having this problem, inflammation in my joints because of Kidney Ying deficiency, in other words my kidneys are straining to cope with the after affects of chemo and steroids and other drugs used however I need to keep going with the Herceptin. So far, I haven’t taken any herbs for the kidneys but am considering acupuncture to see if it can help my kidneys cope better although I do have nothing serious going on with my kidneys. The Chinese Herbalist told me this may take a year or more to resolve.

I just take it one day at a time. Some days I am almost normal and other days I hobble about each time I stand up however I am still able to exercise and eat well. The best I can do is to keep doing what helps me, heat, massage, compression gloves and socks at night, carpal tunnel braces at night, squeeze ball for hands, roll my feet on a tennis ball, swimming etc.

Apparently this is not uncommon after chemo. Hope this helps and I hope you find a way to minimise the discomfort.

take care
Mariam

Me, too
Miriam, you describe exactly what happened to me except I had muscle spasms as well and my condition was brought on by Arimidex. I was switched to tamoxifen and had no problems for one full year. Now the spasms are back, but my rheumatologist might be my answer. Hang in there kiddo. You are a fighter and a survivor. Hugs, marilynn