Hallucinogens Tested to Help Treat Cancer Patients: Clinical Study Open

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dianetavegia
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Hallucinogens Tested to Help Treat Cancer Patients
Updated: Tuesday, 13 Apr 2010, 11:50 AM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 13 Apr 2010, 11:50 AM EDT

(CANVAS STAFF REPORTS) - Would you go on an hallucinogenic trip for research? Widely known as the drug type of choice for many hippies in the '60s, LSD-type drugs, including psilocybin, which is related to "magic mushrooms," are making a comeback in the medical community.


To further investigate the effects of hallucinogens the Johns Hopkins Psilocybin Cancer Project is looking for cancer patients between the ages of 21 and 70 who are willing to volunteer. Eligibility requirements include a cancer diagnosis that is potentially life-threatening and experiences of anxiety or depressed mood.

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  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
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    Baffling !


    Why are so many cancer victims so wiling to become guinea pigs
    for the cancer industry, and yet so reluctant to try a medical
    science that is thousands of years old?

    I find it not only baffling, but disturbing.....

    Psychedelic mushrooms, indeed....

    Good grief.
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
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    John23 said:

    Baffling !


    Why are so many cancer victims so wiling to become guinea pigs
    for the cancer industry, and yet so reluctant to try a medical
    science that is thousands of years old?

    I find it not only baffling, but disturbing.....

    Psychedelic mushrooms, indeed....

    Good grief.

    'schrooms...
    John, I didn't see it mentioned in the article about people being reluctant to be part of this study. They really gave no indication of the turnout of people willing to be part of this study. They did say "If you are selected to take part in the study you will be administered the psilocybin in a "living-room style room, decorated with artwork, comfortable furniture, and soft lighting" on one of the school's campus." What! No lava lamp???

    I must not be understanding your comment. Do you mean it's disturbing that people would want to try the psilocybin?
    -phil
    Not a fan of the phrase "cancer victims". Who's a victim? I have cancer.
    It reminds me of "cancer survivor". I read on Rob's post once that "you haven't survived cancer until you've died from something else".
    I don't use those words but that's me...
  • Kerry S
    Kerry S Member Posts: 606 Member
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    I am still a little off center to this day
    They experimented with my butt back in the late 60s. Washington University school of Psychiatry was doing a study of young married couples and their problems.

    They put me on some damn drug to calm me down. I took it and drank a few screwdrivers at lunch. Went to my office and dumped my brief case on my boss’s desk and told him where he could put it all. The boss thought I went nuts and took me to the funny farm. I did not appear high, just nuts. Then the guys at the funny farm showed me some of the pills and asked me if I drank on top of them. They sent me home to sleep it off. I never did find out what the pills were but was told they were experimental.

    They did solve my wife’s problems. They took her off the BC pills and she went from a nasty witch to sweetheart overnight. The pills they gave me could be why I am still a little off center to this day.
  • snommintj
    snommintj Member Posts: 601
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    Kerry S said:

    I am still a little off center to this day
    They experimented with my butt back in the late 60s. Washington University school of Psychiatry was doing a study of young married couples and their problems.

    They put me on some damn drug to calm me down. I took it and drank a few screwdrivers at lunch. Went to my office and dumped my brief case on my boss’s desk and told him where he could put it all. The boss thought I went nuts and took me to the funny farm. I did not appear high, just nuts. Then the guys at the funny farm showed me some of the pills and asked me if I drank on top of them. They sent me home to sleep it off. I never did find out what the pills were but was told they were experimental.

    They did solve my wife’s problems. They took her off the BC pills and she went from a nasty witch to sweetheart overnight. The pills they gave me could be why I am still a little off center to this day.

    never dropped acid
    I've never dropped acid or eaten mushrooms. All my friends have and their cancer free. Maybe there is a connection. I think I would become very violent while tripping, so maybe I'll just opt out of this study.
  • dasspears
    dasspears Member Posts: 227
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    John23 said:

    Baffling !


    Why are so many cancer victims so wiling to become guinea pigs
    for the cancer industry, and yet so reluctant to try a medical
    science that is thousands of years old?

    I find it not only baffling, but disturbing.....

    Psychedelic mushrooms, indeed....

    Good grief.

    Combining the best of both worlds....
    A Phase II clinical trial comparing the effects of huachansu combined with gemcitabine (Gemzar®) to gemcitabine and placebo for patients with advanced pancreatic cancer is under way at the Fudan University Cancer Hospital in collaboration with M. D. Anderson.

    Both trials are part of the International Center of Traditional Chinese Medicine for Cancer funded by the National Cancer Institute. Anhui Jinchan Biochemistry Company, Ltd. provided the drug for this trial.
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
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    Interesting
    "Dr. Roland Griffiths, a professor of behavioral biology at Johns Hopkins has found that psilocybin caused what "experimental subjects described as a profound spiritual experience with lasting positive effects for most of them.""

    I can vouch for mushrooms. It's a very mellow experience and I can totally understand how some people described it as a "profound spiritual experience". It certainly was spiritual for me (not to be confused with a religious experience). I can see why many indigenous peoples use them in their ritual ceremonies. If it were offered close by I'd certainly be up for it. Right now it's too far of a trip to make.
  • msccolon
    msccolon Member Posts: 1,917 Member
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    snommintj said:

    never dropped acid
    I've never dropped acid or eaten mushrooms. All my friends have and their cancer free. Maybe there is a connection. I think I would become very violent while tripping, so maybe I'll just opt out of this study.

    dropped acid and ate 'shrooms
    And still got cancer! I'm sure the connection is merely coincidental! Not sure I'd be at a place to enjoy an acid trip in this battle! The pleasantness or unpleasantness of the trip definitely stems from the trust you have in the people and place around you at the time! I think it also has to do with where your mind is at, which could be a scary place! Just my thoughts!
    mary
  • coloCan
    coloCan Member Posts: 1,944 Member
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    PhillieG said:

    Interesting
    "Dr. Roland Griffiths, a professor of behavioral biology at Johns Hopkins has found that psilocybin caused what "experimental subjects described as a profound spiritual experience with lasting positive effects for most of them.""

    I can vouch for mushrooms. It's a very mellow experience and I can totally understand how some people described it as a "profound spiritual experience". It certainly was spiritual for me (not to be confused with a religious experience). I can see why many indigenous peoples use them in their ritual ceremonies. If it were offered close by I'd certainly be up for it. Right now it's too far of a trip to make.

    I guess someone figures if you're tripping your brains out,
    you'll forget you got cancer......Back then, I preferred meth but did do acid several times, don't like fungi so no mushrooms. Where's Don Juan and Carlos Castenadas or Timothy Leary? No way I could do that at this age/condition!!!!
  • 5678dance
    5678dance Member Posts: 39
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    coloCan said:

    I guess someone figures if you're tripping your brains out,
    you'll forget you got cancer......Back then, I preferred meth but did do acid several times, don't like fungi so no mushrooms. Where's Don Juan and Carlos Castenadas or Timothy Leary? No way I could do that at this age/condition!!!!

    Hmmmm.....
    I tried acid back in college, never again! Never did shrooms. Mary Jane, now that's another story. It does help with anxiety and nausea. Others I know get fiesty on MJ, as it effects different people different ways. Who knows, the acid & shrooms may work for some. Everything doesn't work for everybody. Good luck to anyone who tries it. I woul be eager to hear the results.

    Kathi
  • eric38
    eric38 Member Posts: 583
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    Mind games
    Even though my reality involves the probability of an early demise, I still prefer to keep my feet on solid ground. I want to enjoy this life just as it is. Besides, the last time I smoked pot which was many moons ago, I got really paranoid. So, hallucinogenics? - I don't think so! I think my trip would be more like a nightmare. My mind is weird enough as it is.

    Eric
  • Sundanceh
    Sundanceh Member Posts: 4,392 Member
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    eric38 said:

    Mind games
    Even though my reality involves the probability of an early demise, I still prefer to keep my feet on solid ground. I want to enjoy this life just as it is. Besides, the last time I smoked pot which was many moons ago, I got really paranoid. So, hallucinogenics? - I don't think so! I think my trip would be more like a nightmare. My mind is weird enough as it is.

    Eric

    Agreed, LOL:)
    You're already wired too tight:)

    Kidding of course, Eric.

    -c
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
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    5678dance said:

    Hmmmm.....
    I tried acid back in college, never again! Never did shrooms. Mary Jane, now that's another story. It does help with anxiety and nausea. Others I know get fiesty on MJ, as it effects different people different ways. Who knows, the acid & shrooms may work for some. Everything doesn't work for everybody. Good luck to anyone who tries it. I woul be eager to hear the results.

    Kathi

    Par for the course...
    at least I doubt I am not shocking anyone with any of my admissions to experimentation with drugs...
    Acid that was around in the early 70s that I experimented with ranged from good clean stuff that was liquid LSD that was put on paper (blotter acid) or even on croutons was better than stuff that came in pill form. The experience was more intense than something like mushrooms that were a very mellow high. The mushrooms were more of a enlightening experience where the LSD was much more intense and vivid. it really intensified your senses. The few times I took any in pill form it was OK but not as clean. Sort of like comparing a good 12 yr old single malt scotch to cheap store brand. I'd be curious to hear of anyone who does do this trial. I know that Sloan does not have this available.
  • Shayenne
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    Sundanceh said:

    Agreed, LOL:)
    You're already wired too tight:)

    Kidding of course, Eric.

    -c

    I Tried....
    ...Acid once, when I was 17, and it scared the crap out of me. This stuff had me tripping for 2 days, it's like you're there, but you're not. You would be fine one minute, and the next minute, your walls are melting all around you, I would walk in my bathroom, and the toilet had fangs all around it, and I would be like screaming, "Help Me! My toilet wants to kill me!!" oh my, lets just say, it scared me so much seeing things, I stayed in bed and pretended to my dad I was sick, so I didn't have to go to school the next day. I hated the feeling of not being in control of myself. Now, I would actually try the shrooms, to see what it would do for cancer though, I'd definitely wouldn't mind at all, as long as I was kept safe and as long as it was definitely contributing to the research.


    Hugsss!
    ~Donna

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