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pokismom
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Hi,
Yesterday a friend of ours took us to spiritual healing, it's not really a church but a ministry. There were about 12 people there discussing about the bible and stuff and then after they ask who needs prayer, so my friend said to raise my hand. So they went around and prayed for the people there and this lady comes to my husband to pray, he's like "oh I'm just here with my wife" and she says I can tell you have anxiety and you are suffering. I know my husband is suffering because he never wants to talk about it. So she prayed for him and then she prayed for me. The lady that was doing the service thing (I'm not sure what you call her) then came over and she too started praying for my husband and she asks him why are you so mad or upset? So he says that why does this have to happen to my wife, she is the most beautiful person I know, I couldnt stop crying all through the prayers and everything I was crying. She asked me too why was I mad and I was thinking about it earlier in the day that I was going to church and I was wondering why if God loves us all so much does he make all the cancer people suffer.( I just got off the computer and was thinking about all of you guys) She them said that I need to remember that Jesus loves me. She explained to us about how she lost her husband 2 yrs ago and how her daughter doesnt believe in God now, so she's giving sometime and hoping she'll come around. I know that we have a lot to be thankful for and I am so grateful that after 22 years of marriage my husband thinks that I'm still a beautiful person. I got to thank god for that! Just thought I'd share this with you guys.
Lots of Love
Donna

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nudgie
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Growing up I went to church with my family and through high school, but when I got married, at 17 yrs of age, I stopped going. Never stopped believing in the Lord.

In 2006 I was DX with Stage II colon cancer and began my treatments. Upon entering the Oncology wing of the hospital I was told I would be in Room 25 with another couple, Bob and Nancy. Nancy was DX with Stage IV and had been fighting the disease for almost 2 yrs.

So each treatment, every other week, I (we) were partnered with Bob and Nancy. We began a friendship and that friendship got me through my treatments, but during said friendship they stated they belonged to a local Baptist Church and asked us to visit, so after discussing with my hubby, we decided it was time to go back, so we did. The first few months I did nothing but cry and weep during each sermon, don't know why, but did.

Then in 2007 Nancy lost her battle with cancer and Bob eventually remarried and moved to another part of WV with his new wife.

The point of this story is, I am pretty sure, God brought me to WV (2004) to make sure I received the best cancer care and to meet Bob and Nancy so I could return back to him.

Like the saying says, Gods works in mysterious ways :)

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Sonia32
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I do believe that God works in mysterious ways. I do not think for one minute that he wants us to suffer from cancer or what have you, as we all have free will as my husband puts it. But he is there for us when we are in need or not. I think my diagnois was a wake up call, I was disappearing into depression (since I lost my mum) and I was lost. But getting cancer was a wake up call (serious though it may be) that I did want to be around (as in the past I had tried to kill myself a few times) and life is precious and that we have to fight to carry on.
So although I'm not glad I was diagnosed with the big c, I feel it's changed my life for the better. Still battling with depression but I know I will get through both my treatments, with my lord, my husband, family and friends on my side and everyone on this board.
Hugs to you
Sonia

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Shayenne
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...Sonia, I don't believe God gives us cancer, but I was raised Catholic, and since moving here to the Midwest, not alot of Catholics around here. I actually tried this Pentecostal church, but they scared me and the kids, they were jumping around and flailing and screaming and crying, the preacher talking in tongues, that I was out of there fast, I was waiting on them bringing out the snakes to see if you could live through the poison...Us Catholics are aalot more reserved, and I'm not knocking on anyones religion, it was just scary for us.

Most of the churches are like that here, we dont go to church, I have been saved and baptised by a church, but I have a more personal relationship with GOD and dont believe you are a bad person if you don't go.

I don't know why I got cancer, and don't care, all I know is it happened, and I have to get through this for my kids, but it has changes my aspect on life, and I don't take anything for granted, I pray alot, and talk alot to GOD like he was sitting right next to me.

I have a couple kids who hate him now, because they think he gave me cancer, and I can imagine how they'll be if I ever die, they will never believe in him again, they are very angry with him, even when I try to talk to them about it, they don't want to hear about it.

I'm glad you're still with us Sonia, and hope you stay as beautiful a person as ever, and not go down that dark road again, you know you have us now :)

Hugsss!
~Donna

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Yikes, Donna! We visited a church here in town when we first moved here over 10 years ago that was a lot like that! RUN, RUN fast! EEK

God is not 'the author of evil' and cancer IS evil. Sin, way back in the Garden of Eden, opened up the world to icky things like rape, murder, poverty, illness....

God WILL sometimes allow someone to go through something if it would eventually work out for good. Now that doesn't mean OUR good. Maybe another family member or friend, the world (thinking of those brave soldiers who die daily), or mankind. Other times, there seems to be no reason.

Cancer is not punishment. God doesn't 'respect' people and loves ALL people the same.

Our sweet Craig spoke to me one day. I said that I don't like it when people say 'I know what you're going through' when I mention my brother being murdered. Craig said 'I know what you're going through' because his sister was murdered, too. I believe sometimes WE go through something so we can help our fellow man in some way. AnneCan, a new member, shared some wonderful things with Patti that I certainly couldn't share because I've not met those people. I used KathrynMN's story to help a young mom in our church face vaginal surgery for repeated episodes of cervical cancer. Sharing on this board helps each other and helps those who lurk and never post.

An Old Testament story about Queen Esther has her cousin Mordecai asking her
'Who knows if you were born for such a time as this'.

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I am not trying to get people off this part of the site, but there is another section that I think many people would enjoy. It's under "Discussion Boards" and the thread is called "Spirituality, Prayer, and Meditation". There are many posts that are similar to yours Donna. The thread was created by CSN for deeper discussions about faith, spirituality and other similar topics that may or may not be cancer related. It is an interesting thread and I hope others visit it. I've read many fantastic posts from semi-colons and people with other forms of cancer. It's a place where anyone of any faith or no faith can post their beliefs and ideas without "rocking the boat" (or Ark as the case may be). It's great to read other points of view and to learn more about different faiths and ideas without conflicts.

We all have a story, they are very interesting.
Funny how I'm following your comment Diane...I agree that God is all about love
peace
:-)
-phil

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patsy1954
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I have been a Catholic all of my life. When I was diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer in April, my immediate reaction was, "God is punishing me for being bad." That didn't last long, I read the book Why Bad Things Happen To Good People. It's a book that has been around a long time and it opened my eyes that God sent me cancer for a reason. I have strong faith, pray a lot, continue to go to church when I feel good, an have many friends who are pryaing for me. I know that He will guide me. I now know one of the reasons that I have this disease,it's so I can help people cope and have them see that Cancer is not going to beat me and it won't beat them either. Be Strong, keep the faith!

Pat

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Shayenne
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...I totally forgot there is a great section that Phil said where this can be discussed without having anyone be offended, please lets maybe post there, so there won't be anyone getting turned off by this discussion, and we can all chat about our faiths there...maybe CSN can move this topic to the right section?

Thanks and Hugsss!
~Donna

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pokismom
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Oh I'm sorry I didnt mean to open a can of worms, I will be careful about my posts. i don't mean to offend anyone, I was just sharing about my day. I will check out the other section, thanks Phil. So sorry guys......
Donna

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Shayenne
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..reason to be sorry, you didn't know about the other sections, you opened NO can of worms, these are also very interesting topics that I like to read about as well! we should meet over at the other section LOL....

Hugsss!!
~Donna

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No need to apologize at all. It shouldn't be where anyone is walking on eggshells on this thread or on any other one. I certainly wasn't offended at all. The other section is interesting though and worth checking out, that's all.
It's a touchy topic unless everyone is on the same page, just as it is in life and throughout the entire world.
-phil

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grammadebbie
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Dear Ones,

I hope I have not offended anyone by expressing myself. I do have a relationship with God and it is kinda how I perceive things. It's not intended to put my beliefs on anyone else, only to encourage and uplift. I am not offended when someone sends good vibes to me or any other form of encouragement. I respect them and their beliefs. I would not ask them to change for me. I don't want to open a can of worms or walk on eggshells. I love it here and want to be able to continue my relationship with all of you. I would never try to make anyone feel uncomfortable about their beliefs so please understand that when I say I'm praying for you it doesn't mean you have to believe the way I do. I love you all and don't want to get into a "religious" debate. It does no good. I hope it is OK for me to post here and just be who I am. I was not here when there was a problem with this but I have always tried to be respectful of others feelings. I would never push my beliefs on anyone, only love and encourage and respect you all. In the past I have avoided quoting scripture or anything like that. Just giving my feelings. I will learn how to PM so if I want to give someone a scripture it won't offend anyone. I really hope that I don't make anyone uncomfortable, that is not my intention. I appreciate you all and respect our uniqueness.

Hope this is received in the way it's intended.

Blessing to all,

Debbie (gramma)

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Shayenne
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We love you posting, and would never want you to leave, nothing's been opened or no ones been offended, it was just a thing of the past this year, that happened, when people who don't believe against people who do believe, it just got really ugly, and was kind of glad I didn't get to see it, I believe I was in the hospital at the time and missed it, but I don't get into debates, I don't find sending prayers and good thoughts offending at all, but you are wonderful to this board, and everyone just has their own opinion about religion, that's why they made it in the "Other" section, where we can post our differences, and have this section just cancer related.

Hugsss!
~Donna

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Many people on this board my not know this about me but I run/worked for 10 years with men and women dying of HIV/AIDS. I have held the hands of many many people who have passed most of whom I have become very close to. I had learned a lot over the years from many people who have long since passed. A man named Don told me the best fishing spot on a river in Oregon. When I go their I remember him. A man named Jack told me that when he passes he wants to fly like a bird. The morning of his passing a hawk flew just feet in front of my truck for well over a mile as I drive down a country road. I have a feeling maybe it was a sign from him? I once had a woman named June who told me that after she passes that every time I see the wind blow the leaves on a tree that it's just her saying hi. I have many stories just like the ones I have told you here. Phill >> If I go before you. Please remember me when ever you play "Amazing Grace" and when you play it remember me so I'll never really be gone.

Brooks

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