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Well, as you all know, I had a couple of wisdom teeth out due to them becoming infected and absessed... well, after getting them out, that night I woke up about 5:00 a.m. shaking like crazy, I was literally freezing, and shook like I was almost having a seizure or something, so I took my thermometer, and put it in my chattering mouth, and the temp was 100.9 (my onc told me that if I ever had a fever of 100.5 to get to the ER room, as that was a sign of infection)...so I woke up my hubby and called an ambulance, because god forbid something happened to me while he was driving, I felt more comfortable with someone there who would be able to stablilize me.

In the ambulance, they took my temp 3 times.. it went from 101, to 102, to 103, then by the time I got to the hospital, it was 101.5. The Dr. took a chest X-Ray, he wanted to make sure the infection wasn't in the port, and lungs..but I did have a small infection that did spread to my lungs, he said though that 95% of it was from my tooth. This was on Thursday morning...

They tried to call the James Cancer Center but their beds were full, and would not be able to take me till Friday morning, or Saturday, I didn't want to wait that long, so they said they would keep in touch with The James, and would treat me, with antibiotics, which they did, and even kept up on the other meds I was on..I let the local hospital treat me, since I just wanted the infection out (O'Bleness at Ohio University which is also a good hospital) and have been there since...my blood counts were getting low, and my shaking was caused because my immune system was so low it couldn't fight off the infection..but they gave me some strong antibiotics through the IV, and it worked..

The James Center called there wanting to get me transferred there, but I didn't see the need too, since they'd do the same the other hospital was doing, and they were also doing a good job taking care of me. I also received 2 units of blood in a blood transfusion, and my blood counts went up nicely, and I feel really good now.

I just got out of the hospital today after fighting off my first infection, I'm glad I got my wisdom teeth out, the oral surgeon who even took them out came to see me, and see how I was doing in the hospital, I told him it wasn't his fault I was there, that my teeth were getting infected, and he had no choice but to pull them anyway, at least I won't have any problem with my wisdom teeth anymore!

But, I'm just glad to be home, and I tell ya, shaking like that, scared the crap out of me, I didn't know what was happening, but if you all know you going to be getting chemo soon, I suggest to get your wisdom teeth out first!

Hope everyones been well, I see my doctor for my 3rd treatment on Wednesday, I hope she still lets me have it after this... man, if it's not one thing it's another this whole year has been with me.. getting diagnosed, chemo, wisdom teeth infections, now what else can go wrong! sheesh!

Huggsss to all!
~Donna

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Sheesh, Donna! You are really having a go of it, aren't you?? I guess this was a pre-warning that your body and system are obviously very prone to infection and so you have to be doubly cautious about taking good care of yourself. It's good to know that your local hospital is very good with dealing with this sort of care so you can feel some relief that if you need hospital attention you have a good one close by.

I'm glad you are out of the hospital though... and I'll keep my fingers crossed that you can go ahead with your next treatment on Wednesday.

Hugggggs,

Cheryl

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hate to hear your having it rough.i had to have a tooth pulled right before my iliostomy reversal.it had decayed all the way to the root.im glad i did it before i started this chemo.good luck with #3and Godbless....johnnybegood

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Donna,
Yikes! So glad that you are home. I bet that was scary shaking like that. It sound like you were in good hands at your local hospital. I'm so sorry you went through that but I agree with Cheryl that it is a message that your immune system is working hard and you need to be extra careful. Will your doctor let you take anything to pump up your immune system? I'm praying for you right now.
Rest, take care, enjoy being at home.
With aloha,
Kathleen

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...the doctor sent me home with a new antibiotics, but I wonder if there is something someone can take out to help out the immune system alittle more when something like this happens..I'll ask my onc about that on Wednesday, that's for sure!

I am definitely glad I'm home, my 13 year old stayed over for 2 nights with me in the hospital, it was good having company there too :)

Hugss!
~Donna

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It sounds just awful! But, it seemed like you kept your head, and did the things necessary...Hurrah for YOU!!!

It's experiences like yours that have oncologists telling their patients not to have dental work done (yes, yours WAS and emergency!) unless it's an emergency. Infection is the major threat to us during treatment, because our immune system is under attack!

Please keep us posted, and hugs to you!

Kathi

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So sorry you wound up in the hospital; the last place any of us want to be after all we've been through! Glad to hear you are home and pray you will continue to strengthen and will be able to continue treatments without much ado. Take care of yourself!
mary

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Awwww so sorry Donna that you had to go through that. It was a wise decision on your part to get the ambulance to get you to the hospital safely. The infection sure did a number on your body. Did they not give you any antibiotics to take after taking the wisdom teeth out. Or maybe they couldn't because of the chemo you are on. Not sure, but I know with an abscessed tooth I usually always get an antibiotic. But hey you are dealing with a whole different set of circumstances now.

Glad you are home and that you aren't shaking anymore. That had to be scary and scared at what you should actually do.

Good luck with treatment #3 and hope you get to feeling better soon.

Kim

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...The first dentist I went to put me on 500 mg of Amoxycillin double each dose twice a day, on a Friday, wanted to pull the tooth on Monday, saw he couldn't get way back there, that I would need the oral surgeon, called and got it pulled by the oral surgeon on Wednesday, all that time I was taking the antibiotics, and Percocets for the tooth pain, and that Thursday morning is when the shakes started, my god, I thought I was having a seizure, but it calmed down once hubby put a comforter over me while waiting on the ambulance, it's a scary thing to get an infection, my teeth don't usually bother me, I have good teeth, but the timing of this wisdom tooth just sucked, here I am on chemo, and NOW it wanted to give me problems..I'm glad I had him take out the other tooth as well so that wouldn't give me any future problems, yeah everyone, be careful of infections, they sure are scary when you get one.

I also got 2 more units of blood, since my hemoglobin was down to 8, and my WBC was down to 2.6, so they did also give me a blood transfusion which made me feel better, and did well for me, where I was able to be released, with more antibiotics I have to take once a day for 10 days. The hospital did well with me, I actually can't wait to see my doctor to see what she says about it all and how I am doing on Wednesday. Thanks everyone!

Hugssss!
~Donna

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Girl you have been through so much the last week. I am glad that they did give you antibiotics but I bet because you had to wait for the oral surgeon is the reason it probably spread so fast. No expert here, but I have had cysts that if I let go even while on antibiotics I would end up with a high fever and sick to my stomach. I needed to have them lanced and most ER or doctors won't do it until it was like the size of a half dollar (ahh well it ain't big enough yet). So yes, the fevers, chills. Sorry, hun, you had to go through this but you are going to feel so much better sleeping in your own bed with your own surroundings.

I'm glad the transfusions worked wonders for you too. Obviously, you needed that and they could see that so it sounds like the local hospital is a pretty top notch place to go when you need to.

Keep up your great spirit.

Kim

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holy moly!!! im glad your ok!!!!! get your rest ill talk at ya soon Tommy

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....is that now, I am petrified of going anywhere or touching anything, or going out and doing anything with my family, thinking I'm going to pick up a germ now and get another infections, I am so scared to go outside to a store now, it's not funny...this just gave me some kind of phobia now where I just want to stay indoors now.

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The type infection found inside of gums is a different type infection that you'd get from touching a cart at the grocery store or a knob at the mall. They even use special antibiotics MOST of the time. Clindomycin is one. Horrible med but works on those infections that live where there is no air.

Glad you're okay and sure pray you can go through with treatment on Wednesday. I'm having my blood tests tomorrow, instead of Wednesday, to check my liver enzymes in case one of the meds needs to be adjusted.

God bless and sweet dreams!

Diane

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Donna... don't talk yourself into a fear that has no place being there. If you turn into a hermit and not leave the house, then you are doing exactly what will cause you to catch a bug outside the home as soon as you are exposed to it. You have 6 months or more to go to complete these treatments. That is going to take you through the summer. If you stay inside between now and when the treatments are over... your immune system will go in shock just going outside, let alone being exposed to even the kindest of germs.

Besides the exercise value, that is also one of the reasons they WANT you to get outside, to continue doing normal activities while on treatments. Yes, you want to take care and obviously you aren't going to sit side-by-side with someone who has an infections disease/illness... on the other hand, locking yourself up is going to do just as much (if not more) damage to your system, not to say what wear and tear it will have on your family :/

This was one of those flukey things... your tooth got abscessed and the timing just happened to suck because you are getting chemo treatments. But had you not been getting chemo treatments or had you not been DX'd with cancer, you would have still gotten an abscessed tooth and gone through the same thing. The only difference would be you would not have gotten paranoid... you would have just thought that the tooth adventure was a lot more involved than you ever thought a sore tooth could be ;)

Hugggggggs,

Cheryl

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I'm with everyone else here, you don't want to give cancer that kind of power to control your life! You definitely have to be more careful about keeping on top of infections now, but we're talking infections not normal everyday bugs. I learned this when I let a UTI go too long and it got very bad. But, it's not like I pick up every bug that comes my way, I just know that if I do find myself with something I go into the doc right away and get some meds to control it, rather than waiting a while to see if it will work itself out like I used to. But as far as colds and stuff, as long as I'm diligent about washing my hands, staying away from public coughers and using my saline nose spray, I do pretty good at avoiding those normal bugs! You will too, and soon enough that awful experience with the abcessed tooth will be just a memory, like everything else! You are strong, you are a fighter, and you WILL kick cancer's a$$!
mary

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Donna that would be scary I think it would be a nightmare . Glad you are home and doing better now. Hopefully you will be getting good news soon ,it should be gettting close to time for you to get your marker done to see if th ca is shrinking you are a few weeks behind me on that one hope you get good news on that one. You deserve some good news

Hugs Sheri22

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Donna,

That sounds like a scary experience, but the good news is that you passed the what to do test with flying colors! That was smart to call the ambulance.

Please take care of yourself and get lots of rest.

*hugs*
Gail

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Thanks Cheryl, I had no idea even going outside would also be good for the immune system, you're right, I'm letting this beast scare me now, and can't let it, I don't know if I could stay indoors anyway, I think psychologically it would drive me insane! I know sometimes I'm going to get infections, and get sick, but I guess the feeling of it happening and shaking like that really scared me, and wow, It will always be in the back of my mind what can happen now...I won't stay in, but I really have to help my immune system get up there.

And yeah Sheri, another scary thing..the scans, I guess when I see her on Wednesday she will want to schedule some scans, since I'm coming up on my 3rd treatment, another worrying, I would love to have good news for a change, that's for sure, after you go through all these bad things, within a few months of each other, you wonder if you'll ever hear any good news, I swear I have this big black cloud over me that must just follow me, I was crying so bad in the ER room to a nurse, she felt so bad, telling me to let it out, sometimes we just need a good cry, and after all I been through, you need to just cry, so I did, and I felt better, she was a gem. I just pray now for something GOOD to happen!

I figure the way my hubby drives (like Farmer Brown on a tractor) the ambulance would definitely get me there faster, and if I shakes and spasms that could have led me passing out or something (like if hubby was driving) he wouldn't know what to do with me or stabilize me or anything, he would have panicked..they got me there quick and were able to keep an eye on me, I'd probably always do that if I had too.

Thanks for your comments everyone, I guess my immune system will never be what it was now, but after treatments, does it get better? or does anything in the immune system ever appear even during treatments to fight off anything? I hope I can do more to boost it.

Hugssss,
Donna

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Donna try to stay positive, sounds easier said then done with what you have been thru lately but if this will help you my friends aunt has stage 4 ca a few years ago and has been NED for 6 months now, I heard this yesterday and it really helped my husband and I to have more hope, I hope your scans give you good news , Thurs I find out my results. Just between
us I am scared .You know the feeling I just pray it is shrinking , and try to stay positive

anyways you hang in there Donna

Hugs Sheri22

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That certainly is encouraging news, glad she's been NED! good for her, I am trying to stay positive, and pray all the time, I actually talk to God like he's just a good friend sitting with me through everything..he got me through the hospital, and he'll get me through the scans, I hope your scans come out spotless, and hope it's shrinking as well, I hope mine is as well, we will always hope and stay positive, no matter what, you can keep knocking me down only for so long before I come out swinging ;)

Good luck to you, you hang in there too, my prayers are with you as well!

Hugsss!
~Donna

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I am glad you are feeling better, that must of been scarey.

michelle

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Hey Donna.. never say "never" :)

>> "I guess my immune system will never be what it was, but after treatments, does it get better?"

Now, now, now... what kind of thinking is that? If you weren't on chemo and had this abscessed tooth... and you had to leave it as long as you did, even though you were put on antibiotics, guess what? You, more than likely, would have had the exact same reaction and would have ended up in the hospital while they gave you the super duper IV antibiotics. This happens more often than one would imagine... same as other kinds of infections like cysts, etc. When that happens, one doesn't think, "Oh dear... my immune system didn't kick in so I am probably going to have to deal with serious infections over and over again". Nooo... we just think, "Bummer! Bad timing! Glad I went to the hospital and they got it under control."

Sure, chemo "can" compromise your immune system, just because of the nature of the medication. But there are just as many of us where it didn't compromise, or didn't compromise to the point it was a problem. I think, like everything else, it's the luck of the draw. But you can't say having had the abscessed tooth and ending up in the hospital is because your immune system wasn't working... I bet dollars to donuts you would have had the same reaction without the chemo... and there's no way an abscessed tooth would ever get better on it's own, no matter how healthy your immune system was ;)

And, in answer to your question... yes, your immune system will rebuild itself after treatments are finished. It actually starts rebuilding itself when you stop a treatment but it no sooner gets started and we hit it with the next treatment. That is done on purpose... to kill off the cancer cells, the chemo also kills off the good cells. The good cells regenerate, but just as they start regenerating, we hit them with the next treatment.

Just as an interesting tidbit. I used to get bronchitis fairly regularly (have had bronchial pneumonia 4 times in my life) and would catch a cold at least twice/year. If someone had a bug, I'd usually get it too. So, I was a little leary about chemo... I was probably going to get hit hard! Well, I don't know what the answer is, maybe the regeneration of all new cells over the course of my chemo treatments ?? But since I started chemo in March 2007 (finished at the end of Oct 2007) I haven't had one bout of bronchitis or one cold. I've gotten the sniffles as if a cold was coming on, but then after 24 hours or so of sniffles, it goes away. Meanwhile, everyone around me who is supposedly healthy, is catching every bug that goes around!!

No, I have no explanation for this, but I'm beginning to think Chemo was a good thing for me .

So never say "never"... and don't dwell on the "what ifs"... dwell on the positives! We are what we think so always direct the energy into thinking what you want, not what you don't want :)

Huggggggs,

Cheryl

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...are always so encouraging, and you make more sense then any doctors do, I'd rather have you as my doctor! haha...I have gotten some runny noses as well where I think a cold is coming on, but nothing ever happens, I keep thinking the immune system is so empty once chemo hits, that there's nothing there fighting it, but I forget new cells are regenerating!

Thanks for that, you and others make my day each time I read a post of yours! thanks for being there for us scared newbies!

Hugsss!
~Donna

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Donna,

I'm sorry you've had such a rough time. I'm stage iv too and I finished my chemo in June 2008. My immune system has responded really well to life after chemo. I started back to finish my classes in Aug. 2008 and have not had any bugs, etc. I was really careful to avoid sick people if possible and I carried a small hand sanitizer with me and used it all the time, especially at the grocery store, after pumping gas, and after using the ATM. Any time I felt I was touching something that lots of other people had touched, I used my hand sanitizer. My immune system has done so well that both of my sons had the flu the last couple of months and I didn't catch it! Pretty amazing, but I think it shows that we can bounce back. The only thing I've had is a bladder infection, so I've been very lucky. Good luck and keep on fighting!

Rebecca

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....I been a fanatic with the hand sanitizer, and trying to keep gloves on or napkins in my pocket to open doors even, (or sometimes my sleeve, I wont use my hands), I've also learned to stop being fidgity and keep my hands away from my face, even if there is a piece of hair going into my eye, I try and use my arms haha..

My kids and hubby I had to get into the habit of always using the Antibacterial soap pump and then the sanitizer to try washing their hands as much as they can, I know my little ones think it's a pain, but oh well, I tell them it's to help them not get sick, and they understand alittle better :)

Good thing about not catching the flu, I been lucky, none of my kids have been sick this year, and it's probably due to all the handwashing! Thanks so much for the comment, I am pretty sure my immune system will be great, God is watching and helped me through my infection at the hospital, and he will see me through this as well!

Hugsss!
~Donna

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so sorry to hear you went through that, Shayenne, but you really kept your
cool to call an ambulance....shows you were thinking all the while...even
tho you were scared.....that is actually a winning state of mind. I agree
with continuing to go outside mentioned in other posts and yes I do think
there is a shot or something they can give to help with the immune system,
you need to ask your oncologist. A little suggestion would be to carry
in your purse a small bottle of hand sanitizer to use at the grocery store,
going into public bathroom after you leave...just read that there are lots
of germs on the bathroom door handle, yuk.....and that would help. Hope
your next treatments go ok and you will soon be done with them.

Barbara

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Hi Donna,

I'm just reading your post the morning of the 16th- wow- this board is so active that if I miss it for even a day, I miss lots and lots of posts.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that! As others have said, you're now quite aware that you're prone to infection, so you will need to be ultra careful from now on with exposure to illnesses, washing hands, using germicide, etc. I'm also glad to hear you're home from the hospital safe and sound. Hope all goes well with getting chemo this week.

You take care of yourself-
Lisa

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Well, you're right, if it isn't one thing, it's another. I'm glad you are out and getting back in the swing of things. Sorry you had to go through that!

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Hi Donna,
I'm sorry to hear about your hospital visit. I 'm glad you are doing better, I can only imagine how frightened you were! p.s. my nose is runny all the time, I never seem to get a cold, maybe another wonderful side effect from chemo. I hope you feel better soon!!
Karyn

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Hi,
Happy to read that you are doing better now. It seems to always be something but we keep plugging away at this disease..YES !!!..Hugs to you, Audrey.

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Donna,

I've been away from the computer for a few days and come back to this! Infections are nasty and scary. I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that. It happens sometimes no matter how careful you are...just glad you're doing better now.

Hugs,

Kimby

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great new avatar!
mary

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You're so beautiful, thanks for coming back, I always look forward too seeing you around here!

Hugggss to you!
~donna

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Shayenne, Bless your heart. I'm thinking of you. I've only finished my fourth chemo, but when I read the posts, my side effects are nothing compared to so many others. I have read of severe situations, but yours is the first I've read on this message board. I take every precaution to avoid anything that will cause me pain, illness, etc. but, at times, tooth removal can not be avoided. I'm thinking of you and truly wish you the best.

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I try to avoid germs at all costs too, I wonder if the chemo even gives mouth problems like this alot, I hope not, I have good teeth, but I know those darn wisdom teeth should have come out a long time ago, I was always to chicken to get teeth pulled, if I had it done when I was younger, then this may not have ever happened, otherwise, I'm feeling better, and hopefully start back on my chemo treatment #3 tomorrow, hope they'll do it. My prayers are with you! I wish you all the best as well :)

Hugggsss to you!
~Donna

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HI Donna, I've been following this thread and wondered if you were okay'd for treatment today?

God keep you WELL!

Diane

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How are you Donna?

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My counts were pretty good, except I need a boost to my WBC, so getting a shot of neuroplas or what is it called again?? I know we have a thread about these shots somewhere, but my hubby took my prescriptions to the pharmacy and I can't spell it LOL!..

I would have hated to delay it again, it scares me then, thinking this would progress, and in the examining room, I actually had tears in my eyes, and asked her "how does one know if this is actually working? I have lost 24 lbs of weight, (which was due to the cancer.. I was swelling like a balloon, from my 120's to 152 lbs before chemo! and am now 126 lbs, which is normal for my 5'2 size)

She then told me "I can tell just by looking at you right now that it's working, you are more comfortable around your belly area, the fluid is going, she then examined by feeling the cancer sites, my liver and then the belly area, and lower extremities, and my neck for swelling, and then said "I can tell you that the tumors are shrinking, the chemo is working" and then scheduled me for my 1st scan on April 8 I think it is, which will be a nail-biter for me, but it was one of the most encouraging news I have heard since I was dx'd at the end of January :)

Thanks for asking, How is everyone here doing as well? it was 73 degrees and beautiful outside, hope everyone was out enjoying their nice day (If they had nice weather lol)

Hugsss to you!
~Donna

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Hey Donna, you said (Quote) I also got 2 more units of blood, since my hemoglobin was down to 8, and my WBC was down to 2.6 (End Quote)

My WBC was 500 and my doctor wouldn't let me have chemo if WBC's are under 1,000. Just thought that was odd.

Wishing you well, my friend!
Diane

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The lab seems to go by different levels.. like (0.6-5.0) kind of scales, I don't ever see things labeled in the thousands, I'll have to get my paper from the lab tomorrow, I can't find where my hubby put it...but will let you know tomorrow what the rating was..

The blood units brought my hemoglobin up to the 11's, and the WBC back up to 4.0.

I wish you well also, and you're in my prayers, hope you get back on that chemo soon!

~Hugsss
Donna

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Wow Shayenne, you have been through it. I totally feel for you...I am soo glad you are better and received treatment.

I followed all the things you are about trying to not catch things. It worked for me, never was sick on chemo. I did stay in alot too, and my kids are homeschooled so we weren't around too many kids. But here is one tip i wanted to offer. My onc would not let me have a manicure or pedicure while on treatment. I wasn't happy about that, but I obeyed. Now after treatment, I have had two and the second one I was cut about three times. It didn't get infected, but bled and has been sore. So, just thought I would advise to stay away from that as well, could be a potential problem.

Good luck recovering form this treatment.

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Wow~ you can't get your nails done?? I hadn't even heard of that, but that is a good tip, I don't ever use a nail cutter myself, and got rid of my acrylic nails, but I do file alot, and like them polished, that's for sure, thanks for that, I didn't mind a manicure now and then, but they scare me sometimes because they do it quite fast at times, where I felt like they were going to cut me. I go out a few times for fresh air with my kids, and try to avoid the public places, when I go to the mall, I have napkins I use to touch doorknobs, sanitizers to clean a table before we eat on it (i must look like a noob for doing this, you should see some of the people that I can tell actually are giggling at me for it, especially teens) and I don't care, I clean down the grocery carts, and wear gloves in the supermarket, so if I handle something, it won't be with my bare hands. People must think I'm such a germophobe, but you have to be with this condition, so when others stare at me and give some weird looks to their friends, I just shrug them off, they just don't understand, and sometimes I feel like going up to them and saying "Look, I'm on chemo, I am susceptible to germs, since my immune system is so low" just to see if they'd feel stupid...

Just wait when I'll still be wearing gloves in the summer, I'll be getting some doozy of the looks! LOL

Thanks for the luck, they're giving me a Neurolasta shot on Saturday to even boost the WBC and help in the recovery.

Hugss to you!
~Donna

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Normal Results

4,500-10,000 white blood cells/mcL (cells per microliter). It also says Medicine.net: There are different types of white blood cells, including neutrophils (polymorphonuclear leukocytes; PMNs), band cells (slightly immature neutrophils), T-type lymphocytes (T cells), B-type lymphocytes (B cells), monocytes, eosinophils, and basophils. All the types of white blood cells are reflected in the white blood cell count. The normal range for the white blood cell count varies between laboratories but is usually between 4,300 and 10,800 cells per cubic millimeter of blood. This can also be referred to as the leukocyte count and can be expressed in international units as 4.3 - 10.8 x 109 cells per liter.

Maybe our doctors were talking about only one portion of the test. Eosinophils are the cells that react during an allergic reaction. Maybe they were talking about mature and specific white cells.

Praying for all our semi colon friends today!
Diane Tavegia

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Shayenne
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In looking at my lab report, they have it where the counts should fall between these numbers...like for example:

WBC 4.8 [4.5-11.0} L which means low, and this is where she is sending me to come back on Saturday to get a Neulasta shot, to help my bone marrow work harder to produce more WBC.

Hemoglobin 12.9 {11.7-15.5]
RBC 5.41 [3.8-5.1]

and so on...those basophils, and eosinphils and all that confuse me, I don't know what all those are, and grans absolute? I have to searching the internet for all this other stuff lol..I'm still learning about all this stuff...

I am praying for all here as well!

Hugssss and will check out your blog!
~Donna

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VickiCO
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Yep, My onc also said no manicures...I used to have acrylic nails (my own are so poor) and he said it was just a "hotbed for bacteria" under that acrylic. And no matter how clean, sanitized, ect the spa is, you are still sharing the instruments with all the other customers. Why take the chance? I took it hard - my nails were my vanity after all! But you know what? Once I started chemo/radiation, the last thing I wanted to do was sit at that table and be clipped, polished and buffed! I will get my nails back once I finish my final mop-up chemo.

I do miss my pedicures though...more for the leg and foot massages than anything else.

Vicki

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Shayenne
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...I think I have some kind of foot phobia!! I hate feet, so I never let anyone touch mine, and I will not touch anyone else, they just gross me out, Especially when my hubby in the recliner, and I can see the bottom of his feet, I don't like looking at it, so I throw a blanket over it, I would never get pedicures because of that either, but I did like manicures..I know I'm whacked LOL!!

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msccolon
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I was freaked out the first time I had a pedicure done, but I got over the weirdness! Having somebody work on my feet keeps ME from having to do it! ;) Besides, since they do it for a living, they are over the whole "disgusting, it's somebody's FOOT" thing!
mary

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