two dr. appts down, one to go- now what? Updated

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  • jams67
    jams67 Member Posts: 925 Member
    I'm glad that you posted all of the details. If we don't know what is going on, we can't pray for you. Know that many of those lurking in the background here are your friends and family and will pray for you. You have so much strength of character that many of those in treatment will benefit from knowing your story and work harder for their own healing.
    Jo Ann
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member

    YEAH!
    I am so happy I kept reading. I was so disappointed for you, and with so many posts I almost didn't read all the way through to the end. This is great news. I am glad you have a doctor that will fight for you with the insurance companies - and not just one, but three that will do it!

    Have you taken Xeloda yet at all? Even though it is very much like 5-FU and most people have about the same end results, some people do much better on one than the other. And in those cases it is often Xeloda that works better for certain patients. Combined with a new drug you haven't tried, it could be just the combo for you!

    Kathryn
    Hi Kathryn,

    Yes, I've taken Xeloda before. Actually, I had a recurrence this past summer while I was on a maintenance dose of Xeloda and was also getting Avastin infusions every 2 wks. But the drs. think that Xeloda mixed with the Gemzar will be a promising possibility. I guess it's not the strength of the Xeloda on its own that matters as much, but how it interacts with affects the other drug. Weird.
    I'm certainly willing to try going on it.

    Thinks for your input and take care-
    Lisa
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
    luv3jay said:

    Oh Lisa! I kept reading
    Oh Lisa! I kept reading your post hoping I would get to the *good news*...but it never came. My heart is heavy for you right now, but you have such a strong spirit...I feel like I'm not being strong with you. I'm not understanding why insurance companies won't look past money and see the human side of treatment. In the meantime, I will continue to pray for your strength and healing.

    -Sheri

    luv3jay/ Sheri
    Hi Sheri,

    Although I haven't heard any more news than when I posted my update, I am not feeling (as) anxious as before and believe that something will get approved this week. I'll give the drs today to write their letter to the insurance co. & I will be after them again tomorrow. Thanks for caring and praying. You're in my thoughts and prayers too.

    Lisa
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member

    That sounds GREAT!
    Wow, what a nice and dedicated doctor! That's great, too, that he called to give you some peace of mind over the weekend.

    Praying the letter sways the insurance company and that this treatment works, really works for you!

    Diane
    Hi Diane,

    I sent you a message. Thanks for the prayers!

    Lisa
  • Fight for my love
    Fight for my love Member Posts: 1,522 Member
    It's great to see your
    It's great to see your update,Lisa.You got great and responsible doctors who stand by you.It's so good to know everything will be taken care of.Again,you are in my prayers and wish you the best.Take care.
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member

    Good news
    Lisa,
    Good news from Dr. Fanta. I am so hopeful for you. We are reading Anticancer as well. **** is committed to starting it when he gets off chemo in March.

    Thanks for keeping us updated. I thought of you and prayed for you a lot today. :)

    Aloha,
    Kathleen

    Kathleen
    Hi Kathleen,

    Glad you're reading Anticancer also- it would be a miracle if my husband would ever read it or listen to anything said there. Soooo frustrating! While I was reading it yesterday, he went off because I "was inconsiderate" in buying a brand of hotdogs without the sodium nitrate. He thinks of hot dogs and beans as a "staple". Dinners with ground beef and tomato type sauces are about all he wants for dinner. If I make something else healthier, he'll eat it some of the time and complain or will just go get himself something else to eat like a bowl of cereal, his "beans and weins" as he calls hot dogs and beans, etc. Really hard to get into what I need to do with healthy eating. I already know it does not matter at all what he hears about nitrates, preservatives, dyes, chemicals, hormones in our meat and milk, pesticides, etc. He doesn't believe any of it. I've talked about ALL of that many times. I love my husband, but feel lots of frustration over this. He said I can do whatever I want with how I eat, but he and the kids shouldn't have to change what they like to eat. I told him they need to change or at least get better about it because I don't want them to go through what I'm experiencing! He said for himself, he prefers "quality over quantity"- he'd rather not live to 90 if he has to eat "garbage" (the garbage is referring to the healthy food- not the actual junky and fatty foods he prefers- lol) I believe it really would take a miracle. I do happen to believe in miracles and have "little" ones (if there's such thing) all along the way. Just realized I have not prayed about this issue. Here goes... :)
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member

    Distressing
    Lisa, this is such distressing news. You know me, i'm going to agree with Brooks suggestion full heartedly. The time has come to take drastic (and expensive) measures that can change all of this. I recommend Gerson, of course. With a 90% success rate treating terminal patients, it just may be worth the $5500 per week. It's easy to say it's only money when you don't have any, but this is your life. We can run a fund-raiser for you if we have to. I'd be more than willing to help organize that. Let's send you to Mexico, girl! Email me!

    Hugs,
    Krista

    Brooks and Krista
    oops- posted this twice
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
    jscho said:

    these drugs sound promising
    Hi Lisa, sorry to hear about the financial/insurance issues, but I looked up the gemzar/pazopanib drugs and they seem full of promise. Gemzar appears to have only mild side-effects and should act cooperatively with xeloda (both create base deficiencies for replication, but for different bases). The pazopanib targets growth receptors like avastin does, so acts quite differently. It has a nice track record of slowing progression (by factors of two!). This sounds like a potent cocktail, attacking cancer cells on multiple fronts, and I sincerely hope your doctors can get insurance to cover them.

    Best,
    Jeremy

    Jeremy- Gemzar
    Hi Jeremy,

    Thanks for your reply. It is interesting, isn't it, to read the results of both the phase I and phase II studies on Gemzar with Xeloda and to read that it sounds really, really promising and with very few side effects too. The pazopanib also!

    Lisa
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member

    See what happens when you NEVER stop believing
    I KNEW SOMTHING GOOD WAS GOING TO COME!!!

    Life is funny sometimes
    Brooks

    Brooks
    Hi Brooks,

    You're right!! If only we could know ahead of time what will end up working out & save ourselves a lot of anxiety and stress!
    It hasn't been approved yet, but I will be following up w/ the drs and insurance this week & it hopefully will all come together.

    Lisa
  • Kathleen808
    Kathleen808 Member Posts: 2,342 Member
    lisa42 said:

    Kathleen
    Hi Kathleen,

    Glad you're reading Anticancer also- it would be a miracle if my husband would ever read it or listen to anything said there. Soooo frustrating! While I was reading it yesterday, he went off because I "was inconsiderate" in buying a brand of hotdogs without the sodium nitrate. He thinks of hot dogs and beans as a "staple". Dinners with ground beef and tomato type sauces are about all he wants for dinner. If I make something else healthier, he'll eat it some of the time and complain or will just go get himself something else to eat like a bowl of cereal, his "beans and weins" as he calls hot dogs and beans, etc. Really hard to get into what I need to do with healthy eating. I already know it does not matter at all what he hears about nitrates, preservatives, dyes, chemicals, hormones in our meat and milk, pesticides, etc. He doesn't believe any of it. I've talked about ALL of that many times. I love my husband, but feel lots of frustration over this. He said I can do whatever I want with how I eat, but he and the kids shouldn't have to change what they like to eat. I told him they need to change or at least get better about it because I don't want them to go through what I'm experiencing! He said for himself, he prefers "quality over quantity"- he'd rather not live to 90 if he has to eat "garbage" (the garbage is referring to the healthy food- not the actual junky and fatty foods he prefers- lol) I believe it really would take a miracle. I do happen to believe in miracles and have "little" ones (if there's such thing) all along the way. Just realized I have not prayed about this issue. Here goes... :)

    Lisa
    Lisa,
    Add me in as praying for your family and the healthy eating. I'll tell you from the caregiver point of view, I have figured out that all I can control is myself. At times when I am very anxious I will start to try to get everyone doing the right thing and then I realize that I am not taking the right steps.... eating well, exercising, meditating, being grateful. When I start to do the right things, it's funny but my family slips in line a bit more. (**** is actually the fitness buff in the house along with our 15 year old daughter.) I guess what I want to do is encourage you to stay your course and do what you need to do for yourself. Right now that has to be your primary concern... it is best for all of you. Do not fret when your husband goes for the cereal for dinner.... if you cooked a good meal (I can't beleive your still cooking for everyone...I want them to cook for you) then let me forge for themselves. I do this at times and most of the time the family will eat what I cook but if not... not my problem.
    I want things to get easier for you my friend. I will keep you in my prayers.

    Aloha,
    Kathleen