Recent Stage IV Diagnosis

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  • StacyGleaso
    StacyGleaso Member Posts: 1,233 Member
    Devasted said:

    question
    Stacy,

    It's always so encouraging to hear these stories vs. reviewing the stats on the internet.
    Did you have a liver resection? My husband was dx in May 09- stage 4 rectal cancer.
    They did a PET scan and only liver mets showed up and oncol. seemed to think that
    was good...liver specialist thought 5 mets were too spread out and it was "advanced"
    stage.... He just completed 6 weeks of xeloda and radiation and did great, minim. side effects. Next is CT scan and ultrasound. Then maybe folox / avastin for 3 months and surgery?
    His CEA was 10 at the initial dr. visit.

    Any thoughts? Thanks for your encouraging post! It gives me hope.
    We have one son, he's tweleve.....

    Misc.
    I have had my liver resected. They didn't know I was stage 4 until I was on the operating table. What was to be a 4 hr surgery (max) was 10 hrs. I like to consider myself an over-achiever! lol They took my gallbladder to get a better shot @ the liver.

    Anything I can do, just let me know. I don't know how I ended up "cured" as my doctor said, but whatever I can do to pull someone along, I'm there!

    Hugs,
    Stacy
  • pluckey
    pluckey Member Posts: 484 Member
    mom_2_3 said:

    When diagnosed
    When I was diagnosed I had 5 bilobar mets that were spread apart. 3 were in the left lobe, one in the right and one between the left and right lobes. First oncologist said inoperable. Second oncologist said "close" to resection. 5 chemo treatments and then had liver resection, entire left lobe removed and 2 wedge resections for the right one and middle one. Liver re-generated in about 6-8 weeks and currently NED (although still doing adjuvant chemo).

    Mets to all lobes of lver
    I have mets on all lobes of liver. Oncologist says no way can I be resected, I'd have no liver left. Is it possible that they can get more shrunk so I can have resection?

    My orignal CEA was 1400 and I'm down to 7.5 after 9 cycles.
  • mom_2_3
    mom_2_3 Member Posts: 953 Member
    Devasted said:

    That's great

    It is so helpful to know there is hope...Thanks so much!

    What type of chemo treatments did you have before resection?
    What type of chemo are you doing now?

    Chemo
    I had 4 treatments (2 rounds) of FOLFOX before the CT scan. Since surgery I had 2 more FOLFOX treatments and the remainder have been 5FU alone. I have 5 more 5FU treatments. I also get FUDR in my HAI pump.
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
    pluckey said:

    Mets to all lobes of lver
    I have mets on all lobes of liver. Oncologist says no way can I be resected, I'd have no liver left. Is it possible that they can get more shrunk so I can have resection?

    My orignal CEA was 1400 and I'm down to 7.5 after 9 cycles.

    to Pluckey
    When I was first diagnosed, I had tumors in all parts of my liver & I was also told I was not a candidate for a liver resection. After 6 months of Folfox/Avastin treatment and then another 6 weeks of radiation on my original rectal tumor (which completely disappeared, by the way!), I became a liver surgery candidate. I went from the 12 or more tumors they could see in my liver on the PET scan down to "just" 3 that were still visible on my CT, but not my PET. It was then that I became a surgical candidate. I had my liver resection in May 2007. The surgeon thought he was removing 3 tumors (or possibly dead tissue- didn't know at that point), but he discovered an additional 3 liver tumors during the surgery, which had never been detected on any scan for some reason. When all 6 were biopsied after surgery, they were still all positive for cancer- glad I got them out of there!

    Now, I just had a scan a couple of weeks ago that showed some activity on the PET scan in one small area along "the resection margin" in my liver again and also somewhat more extensively in my lungs again.So, I did just have to start up chemo again- Folfiri with Avastin this time. Honestly, I wondered if the liver resection would "stay" because I knew I formerly had liver tumors in the part of my liver that remained after surgery. I wondered if tiny microscopic seeds left there (which don't show up on scans) would ever start growing back again. But, even so, I believe I'm definitely better off now than if I had just left those liver tumors alone.

    Anyhow, I just wanted to let you know that sometimes when a doctor says you can't have liver surgery, that it still does sometime happen if you respond well to the chemo. Sometimes just getting a different liver specialist's opinion is good- what one says can't be done, another might be willing to do.

    Blessings to you,
    Lisa
  • jenalynet
    jenalynet Member Posts: 361 Member
    Stage 4
    I am stage 4 and still surviving, on Oct. 12th it will be 4 years since my diagnosis. I am enjoying all that I can right now and still in treatment. I am not cured and I don't plan on being cured unless a miracle happens but I am alive and that's what counts. In Oct. I'll pray for another year..I take it one step at a time. i will keep your sister in my thoughts and prayers, Hugs, Audrey.
  • pluckey
    pluckey Member Posts: 484 Member
    lisa42 said:

    to Pluckey
    When I was first diagnosed, I had tumors in all parts of my liver & I was also told I was not a candidate for a liver resection. After 6 months of Folfox/Avastin treatment and then another 6 weeks of radiation on my original rectal tumor (which completely disappeared, by the way!), I became a liver surgery candidate. I went from the 12 or more tumors they could see in my liver on the PET scan down to "just" 3 that were still visible on my CT, but not my PET. It was then that I became a surgical candidate. I had my liver resection in May 2007. The surgeon thought he was removing 3 tumors (or possibly dead tissue- didn't know at that point), but he discovered an additional 3 liver tumors during the surgery, which had never been detected on any scan for some reason. When all 6 were biopsied after surgery, they were still all positive for cancer- glad I got them out of there!

    Now, I just had a scan a couple of weeks ago that showed some activity on the PET scan in one small area along "the resection margin" in my liver again and also somewhat more extensively in my lungs again.So, I did just have to start up chemo again- Folfiri with Avastin this time. Honestly, I wondered if the liver resection would "stay" because I knew I formerly had liver tumors in the part of my liver that remained after surgery. I wondered if tiny microscopic seeds left there (which don't show up on scans) would ever start growing back again. But, even so, I believe I'm definitely better off now than if I had just left those liver tumors alone.

    Anyhow, I just wanted to let you know that sometimes when a doctor says you can't have liver surgery, that it still does sometime happen if you respond well to the chemo. Sometimes just getting a different liver specialist's opinion is good- what one says can't be done, another might be willing to do.

    Blessings to you,
    Lisa

    Thanks you Lisa
    so much for your detailed information and blessings... Back at ya..we must keep fighting!
    As I get my 2nd and 3rd opinions(gosh it takes a while to get in) I hope to hear other options that MAY be in my future if tumors keep shrinking.

    Take care

    Peggy
  • WinneyPooh
    WinneyPooh Member Posts: 318
    Also New, Also stage IV
    Hi, Also New June 13, 2009 Dx, I had three rounds Chemo and they hope to do Surgury in Sept, I have one spot on my liver and for the most part I am doing really well I will Have some more CT scans after my 4 chemo and i hope to see alot of shrinkage, I have really good days when this whole mess does not bother me and then some days i am really down, My advice is alway question what the docs say and ask for a second opinion if you get any bad news, i have three Docs, one oncologist and two surg, and a whole surgery team ( advisory bourd at Emory in Atlanta to rely on, )

    This is my second cancer the first i was free from for 10 years, this is a new cancer and my family history is riddled with all sorts of cancers, I just have to believe i will beat this one to,

    Hugs and Prayers
    Winney
  • slamb58
    slamb58 Member Posts: 31
    sfmarie said:

    Devastated
    Initially my sister was told she only had 2 months to live. That was the stupidity of the doctor in the er, someone who clearly did not have experience with the disease. That was in March of 09. One doctor also told her there was nothing he could do for her, and this was at UCLA! Now, we are with a fantastic team at Stanford with a liver surgeon who thinks he can resect. She did complete 4 months of chemo. That helped shrink some of the tumors, enough to operate. I liked one survivor on here, Amy, who said, she found an oncologist that said I cannot predict outcomes. Everyone reacts differently and I will treat you as aggressively as you can and want to be treated.
    So-do not give up! There are so many options that I know your husband can and will beat this. It sounds like he is responding well. My sister has three children: 8, 6 and 4. I will keep you and your family in my prayers. PM if I can be of any assistance. I have found comfort in this board and the kindness of strangers here.

    Liver Surgeon
    Sfmarie,
    I was diagnosed June 2008 with stage IV cc. I had 3 mets to the liver. I had my liver resection in Oct of 2008. Was wondering who your sister's surgeon is. I am also at Stanford and my liver surgeon is Waldo Concepcion (I think that is how it's spelled), and he was great. I had two mets resected and the third one they did a RFA. Almost a year later and I'm doing great. I still work full-time, travel and am enjoying life. I will keep your sister in my prayers.
  • sfmarie
    sfmarie Member Posts: 602
    slamb58 said:

    Liver Surgeon
    Sfmarie,
    I was diagnosed June 2008 with stage IV cc. I had 3 mets to the liver. I had my liver resection in Oct of 2008. Was wondering who your sister's surgeon is. I am also at Stanford and my liver surgeon is Waldo Concepcion (I think that is how it's spelled), and he was great. I had two mets resected and the third one they did a RFA. Almost a year later and I'm doing great. I still work full-time, travel and am enjoying life. I will keep your sister in my prayers.

    slamb58
    No, it is not Waldo. I cannot remember his name. I would love to hear from you regarding your experience. She is also seeing Dr. Fisher. I will send you a PM.
    Marie
  • trish07
    trish07 Member Posts: 138
    sfmarie said:

    slamb58
    No, it is not Waldo. I cannot remember his name. I would love to hear from you regarding your experience. She is also seeing Dr. Fisher. I will send you a PM.
    Marie

    Also Stanford Cancer Center...
    My husbands oncologist is also Dr. Fisher. His surgeon is Dr. David Gregg. It's so helpful when dealing with cancer that we are fortunate to be able to go to Stanford for our care. We live in the central valley and if I had not been so aggressive in having my husband transfered, I would have lost him in Nov. 07.
  • sfmarie
    sfmarie Member Posts: 602
    trish07 said:

    Also Stanford Cancer Center...
    My husbands oncologist is also Dr. Fisher. His surgeon is Dr. David Gregg. It's so helpful when dealing with cancer that we are fortunate to be able to go to Stanford for our care. We live in the central valley and if I had not been so aggressive in having my husband transfered, I would have lost him in Nov. 07.

    Trish07
    Trish,

    I love hearing great stories, especially since your husband is also being treated by the same doctors. How is he doing? How was the surgery? Can you give me any advice? Surgery is scheduled for August 26th.

    Marie
  • teresa7374
    teresa7374 Member Posts: 9
    Paula G. said:

    sfmarie
    We are also new to this. My husband was DX in Oct. of last year and has mets to the liver and lungs and a small spot on one of his adrenal glands. He is on treatment #11. This site has been such a help to us. We have found so many people that are living with this. So much information that has helped us. Read people's post's and their stories and I am sure you will feel better. We have learned so much about different treatments and gained many friends. Good luck to your sis.Paula G.

    could you please give me
    could you please give me some info. i am a 43 yr old female diagnosed with stage iv colon cancer with mets to liver and lungs. should i have surgery on the primary tumor first and then start chemo. or should i do chemo first and then surgery. i have had different opinions from doctors.
  • slamb58
    slamb58 Member Posts: 31
    sfmarie said:

    slamb58
    No, it is not Waldo. I cannot remember his name. I would love to hear from you regarding your experience. She is also seeing Dr. Fisher. I will send you a PM.
    Marie

    Email me
    Marie,
    Please feel free to email me, slamb58@sbcglobal.net, and I would be glad to share my experience. I have heard great things about Dr. Fisher. I wish the best for your sister's surgery, and if there is anything I can do, please let me know. I don't live far from the hospital so when she is up to it, I would love the oppportunity to come by and meet and visit with her.