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  • krystle singer
    krystle singer Member Posts: 108
    Three BMs a day!
    Hi,
    Ha! I wish that was all I had. Your info was very interesting and helpful. Really I thought one a day was perfect...until I got colon cancer. When I began having 10 or more a day, I knew something just wasn't right. At that point I had a colonoscopy and sure enough, things weren't right. I'm about 6 monts post-major surgery. I have had two minor colon surgeries--during colonoscopys since. I am still producing enough waste to start my own land fill, but I do feel pretty good. Also am producing enough gas to fuel the nation too.
    I'm going to take notes from the other posts as well as yours and see if anything helps!

    Krystle singer
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member

    Three BMs a day!
    Hi,
    Ha! I wish that was all I had. Your info was very interesting and helpful. Really I thought one a day was perfect...until I got colon cancer. When I began having 10 or more a day, I knew something just wasn't right. At that point I had a colonoscopy and sure enough, things weren't right. I'm about 6 monts post-major surgery. I have had two minor colon surgeries--during colonoscopys since. I am still producing enough waste to start my own land fill, but I do feel pretty good. Also am producing enough gas to fuel the nation too.
    I'm going to take notes from the other posts as well as yours and see if anything helps!

    Krystle singer

    compost it!
    haha. You could compost it rather than landfill it. :-)

    Thanks for the laugh!

    Seriously, the probiotics might help to rebalance your gut flora and help with the uber-output.

    peace, emily
  • paulette S
    paulette S Member Posts: 42
    2bhealed said:

    compost it!
    haha. You could compost it rather than landfill it. :-)

    Thanks for the laugh!

    Seriously, the probiotics might help to rebalance your gut flora and help with the uber-output.

    peace, emily

    juice
    i heard juicing was really good during chemo, any thoughts or suggestions on that?
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member

    juice
    i heard juicing was really good during chemo, any thoughts or suggestions on that?

    Juicing & chemo
    Hi paulette,

    I am assuming you were asking me.....well, I don't have any personal experience with juicing and chemo, and not being a "professional" I can't tell you if it's specifically counterproductive for chemo, but my gut feeling is that if you can sip it down, then go for it. It's surely better for you than anything else you can put in your mouth.

    What I've read on here is that oncologists tell cancer folks to eat whatever they want so in my opinion, the juicing is the optimal thing to eat (yes, you CHEW your juice so as to get the digestive juices flowing in your saliva) during ANY kind of health crisis.

    Juicing is just veggies in liquid form that is easy for the body to assimilate and it's so full of nutrients that it's a no brainer to me.

    Hope that helps.

    peace, emily
  • ac
    ac Member Posts: 88 Member

    juice
    i heard juicing was really good during chemo, any thoughts or suggestions on that?

    Juicing during chemo
    Paulette,

    I was diagnosed with stage 3 sigmoidal colon cancer in last year. The doctors treated this as a rectal cancer and I had 5 1/2 weeks of neo adjuvant radiation and chemotherapy, surgery followed by another 18 weeks of chemotherapy.

    During my entire treatment, I juiced everyday. I tried asking the oncologist and dietician at the hospital about juicing and the general consensus was it is fine as long as I did not take high doses of vitamin C (from tablets or intravenously). Juicing was fine from this angle. But do check with your doctors especially if you are radically changing your diet. I think they would generally be more concerned with you maintaining weight so be sure to keep a healthy balance between "eating anything" as my doctors suggested and maintaining weight.

    I used a blender as opposed to a juicer for two reasons:-

    1. The blender does not filter the fiber out of the juice. You will need to add water or natural juices as a base since there wouldn't be sufficient liquid otherwise.

    2. It was easier on the wallet especially if you are thinking of getting a premium juicer.

    I try to mix it up with my selections, eg. blackberry/acai juice, carrots, strwaberries, banana, brocolli. The general rule of thumb was to have as many different colored fruits and vegetables per serving to ensure that I had a good variety of different vitamins and nutrients.

    I think juicing was really helpful for me since I had rather mild chemotherapy side effects until the last couple of cycles. Unfortunately, I haven't been as diligent in maintaining this regime since I stopped working from home.

    I hope this helps. Good luck!

    Andrew
  • paulette S
    paulette S Member Posts: 42
    ac said:

    Juicing during chemo
    Paulette,

    I was diagnosed with stage 3 sigmoidal colon cancer in last year. The doctors treated this as a rectal cancer and I had 5 1/2 weeks of neo adjuvant radiation and chemotherapy, surgery followed by another 18 weeks of chemotherapy.

    During my entire treatment, I juiced everyday. I tried asking the oncologist and dietician at the hospital about juicing and the general consensus was it is fine as long as I did not take high doses of vitamin C (from tablets or intravenously). Juicing was fine from this angle. But do check with your doctors especially if you are radically changing your diet. I think they would generally be more concerned with you maintaining weight so be sure to keep a healthy balance between "eating anything" as my doctors suggested and maintaining weight.

    I used a blender as opposed to a juicer for two reasons:-

    1. The blender does not filter the fiber out of the juice. You will need to add water or natural juices as a base since there wouldn't be sufficient liquid otherwise.

    2. It was easier on the wallet especially if you are thinking of getting a premium juicer.

    I try to mix it up with my selections, eg. blackberry/acai juice, carrots, strwaberries, banana, brocolli. The general rule of thumb was to have as many different colored fruits and vegetables per serving to ensure that I had a good variety of different vitamins and nutrients.

    I think juicing was really helpful for me since I had rather mild chemotherapy side effects until the last couple of cycles. Unfortunately, I haven't been as diligent in maintaining this regime since I stopped working from home.

    I hope this helps. Good luck!

    Andrew

    thanks
    yu for all your replies. i will ask my dr. next wk. hope everyone continues to be well
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member

    thanks
    yu for all your replies. i will ask my dr. next wk. hope everyone continues to be well

    Juicing vs blender
    Hi there,

    I need to clarify that blending veggies is not "juicing" them. The point to juicing IS to separate the juice from the fiber so that your body does not have to do that. It's like pre-digesting the veggies. It take energy for the body to separate the juice from the fiber through the digestive process and the juicer does that step for you so your body can assimilate the nutrients and enzymes PRONTO! Think of it as IV nutrition rather than popping a horse pill that goes down to your stomach and takes time to be broken down and then gets into your bloodstream.

    Blending veggies and fruit is a fine way to eat veggies but it's not juicing.

    You can get a juicer for under $250. A great investment for your health.

    The raw foodists are experts at blending concoctions and I'm sure you can find some great recipes for blending foods (and smoothies). But it's a different approach and I don't want folks to get confused.

    Thanks for allowing me to clarify that point. :-)

    peace, emily the juice chick
  • donnare
    donnare Member Posts: 266
    2bhealed said:

    My Diet in a Nutshell
    Hi Wa,

    Welcome. I see you're new to the boards.

    My diet has changed over the years. There's my pre-cancer diet, my heal-my-cancer diet, my maintain my cancer-free status diet, my loosened-up diet, and my Triathlon Training Diet.

    Let's start with my heal-my-cancer diet. I did this diet for 6 months--the same time frame as if I had been doing the chemo (which I didn't do). This diet was macrobiotic, vegan and purely simple:

    fresh organic veggie juices with flax seeds, protein powder, and a "green" powder
    fruit smoothies
    brown rice
    brown rice sushi (nori rolls)
    steamed veggies
    ezekial bread
    tofu


    After I got my first 6 month cancer free report I added things like wild salmon occasionally and enjoyed free range organic turkey on Thanksgiving--that kind of thing. Plus I added some "treats". (which for me still don't consist of any kind of refined white/brown sugar--ever).

    So here's a sample of what I eat:

    Sunday Breakfast (had them today)

    vegan whole grain waffles
    butter
    strawberries
    agave syrup

    Lunch

    ww pita bread
    veganaise (like mayo)
    sliced cukes
    sliced tomato
    avocado
    sprouts
    hemp nuts (for protein)

    Bearitos Tortilla chips


    Supper

    piece of fish
    steamed broc
    lg salad with walnuts, scallions, carrots, cukes and Annie's dressing

    Snack or meal at some point I have my 16 oz of veggie juice pretty much every single day.

    Breakfast

    Blueberry/banana smoothie
    NOW vegan protein powder
    flax oil


    Lunch

    black beans in ww tortilla
    spinach
    tomatoes
    sprouts
    Pace picante or Bragg's Amino Acids


    Supper

    Turkey patty
    lg salad with the works
    Annie's dressing with some flax oil squirted on
    sweet potatoe

    dessert
    ww chocolate chip cookies made with barley malt/stevia or honey. The choco chips are grain-sweetened dark choc from my coop. This is a true treat.

    If I haven't had a smoothie for breakfast I sometimes will have one as my dessert and with the frozen banana it's just like ice cream for me.

    Breakfast

    muesli soaked in almond milk
    banana

    Lunch

    egg salad sandwich in a ww pita
    cukes & tomato
    sprouts

    Bearitos chips


    Supper

    ratatouille on millet (totally YUM!)-- zucchini, onions and tomatoes cooked with garlic, simmered so it makes a nice broth to put on the millet.


    ok, I gotta go make supper now. i am totally hungry!

    Does this help? I tried to give you a glimpse into my diet.

    It's not perfect. But I try. My husband laughs when I say I'm "cheating" cuz my cheat would still be considered health food to most. In the summer I may get some nitrate-free natural brats for the grill, or make my garbanzo bean pasta salad, and indulge in some potato chips. Yes, shocker. We all have some weakness be it a coffee addiction or ya gotta have a beer (I don't do either) but at picnics, I have been known to have some chips. I go in spurts of AAAACK! I can't eat that....to.....ok, I'm gonna have a few. But, you have to know, I didn't indulge at picnics until I had about 6 YEARS of cancer-free reports under my belt and know how to counteract them with balancing my pH.

    I tell you this in honesty so you don't think I am making anything up. I really do eat this way. I'm not cleaning it up for the public. :-)

    peace, emily the juice chip (I mean chick)

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  • donnare
    donnare Member Posts: 266
    2bhealed said:

    Juicing vs blender
    Hi there,

    I need to clarify that blending veggies is not "juicing" them. The point to juicing IS to separate the juice from the fiber so that your body does not have to do that. It's like pre-digesting the veggies. It take energy for the body to separate the juice from the fiber through the digestive process and the juicer does that step for you so your body can assimilate the nutrients and enzymes PRONTO! Think of it as IV nutrition rather than popping a horse pill that goes down to your stomach and takes time to be broken down and then gets into your bloodstream.

    Blending veggies and fruit is a fine way to eat veggies but it's not juicing.

    You can get a juicer for under $250. A great investment for your health.

    The raw foodists are experts at blending concoctions and I'm sure you can find some great recipes for blending foods (and smoothies). But it's a different approach and I don't want folks to get confused.

    Thanks for allowing me to clarify that point. :-)

    peace, emily the juice chick

    Green powder?
    June 27, 2009 - 8:57am
    "Green" powder
    Hi Emily,

    I am a caregiver and new to the boards. My husband was recently diagnosed with stage IV colon cancer with over 11 liver mets. Immediately after diagnosis we bought a juicer and planned to change our diets (he decided to try the chemo but wanted to focus on nutrition also). His surgery went well but he became very sick afterwards - long story short - he has lost 32 lbs in just under a month. The are not starting chemo because he is too weak and want him to build up first.

    Two questions - what is "green powder"? And, will juicing and eating the way you describe (sounds great to me) prevent him from gaining weight? Not sure if you can answer the last one.

    I am concerned about the smoothies, milkshakes - SUGAR - he is getting right now. I feel like we are "feeding" his cancer cells, but we are also trying to get weight back on him.

    Thanks for any insights,
    Donna

    PS I really enjoy reading your posts!
  • 2bhealed
    2bhealed Member Posts: 2,064 Member
    donnare said:

    Green powder?
    June 27, 2009 - 8:57am
    "Green" powder
    Hi Emily,

    I am a caregiver and new to the boards. My husband was recently diagnosed with stage IV colon cancer with over 11 liver mets. Immediately after diagnosis we bought a juicer and planned to change our diets (he decided to try the chemo but wanted to focus on nutrition also). His surgery went well but he became very sick afterwards - long story short - he has lost 32 lbs in just under a month. The are not starting chemo because he is too weak and want him to build up first.

    Two questions - what is "green powder"? And, will juicing and eating the way you describe (sounds great to me) prevent him from gaining weight? Not sure if you can answer the last one.

    I am concerned about the smoothies, milkshakes - SUGAR - he is getting right now. I feel like we are "feeding" his cancer cells, but we are also trying to get weight back on him.

    Thanks for any insights,
    Donna

    PS I really enjoy reading your posts!

    Green powder
    Hi Donna,

    Sorry about your husband.

    Go to your local coop or health food store and there are many products to choose from--Barleans Greens, Kyo-Green, Green Magma, etc etc. Green powders add chlorophyll, wheat grass, barley grass, spirulina and things of that sort that are wonderflly alkalizing. This is KEY! It's also a way to get some more concentrated nutrition into your body. I started with Kyo-Green and over the years have tried every product my coop carries. I now use a plain wheat grass powder that I buy in bulk so it's cheaper.

    Just remember this simple mantra:

    GREEN = LIFE


    If you can get as many greens into your hubby as possible he will reap the benefits. I caution you to add the greens sparingly at first until he can build up his tolerance. They can be pretty strong and cause some nausea.

    I also did smoothies with blueberries and almond milk and added protein powder, flax seeds and green powder. They were more of a treat for me so the focus should be on the juice. I also add the protein, the flax and the green powder to my juice.

    Yes, you are right to be concerned about the sugar factor for the very fact that sugar is acidic and causes inflammation that causes diseases. ACS refutes that sugar feeds the cancer but it's known that cancer cells have more insulin receptors and "feed" on it. So any refined sugars should be gone gone gone.

    STARVE THE CANCER!!!

    I really can't answer the weight issue. I lost 25 pounds but I needed to. I think one's body regulates to a healthful weight and I think we, as Americans, are so used to "normal" being actually "fat" that anyone who's thin, people think are not healthy. I mean, you surely don't want him to have ataxia. So I don't know. I eat this way and am not thin at all. (dang).

    Glad you enjoy my posts. I try! :-)

    peace, emily
  • elizabethgd
    elizabethgd Member Posts: 145
    2bhealed said:

    Green powder
    Hi Donna,

    Sorry about your husband.

    Go to your local coop or health food store and there are many products to choose from--Barleans Greens, Kyo-Green, Green Magma, etc etc. Green powders add chlorophyll, wheat grass, barley grass, spirulina and things of that sort that are wonderflly alkalizing. This is KEY! It's also a way to get some more concentrated nutrition into your body. I started with Kyo-Green and over the years have tried every product my coop carries. I now use a plain wheat grass powder that I buy in bulk so it's cheaper.

    Just remember this simple mantra:

    GREEN = LIFE


    If you can get as many greens into your hubby as possible he will reap the benefits. I caution you to add the greens sparingly at first until he can build up his tolerance. They can be pretty strong and cause some nausea.

    I also did smoothies with blueberries and almond milk and added protein powder, flax seeds and green powder. They were more of a treat for me so the focus should be on the juice. I also add the protein, the flax and the green powder to my juice.

    Yes, you are right to be concerned about the sugar factor for the very fact that sugar is acidic and causes inflammation that causes diseases. ACS refutes that sugar feeds the cancer but it's known that cancer cells have more insulin receptors and "feed" on it. So any refined sugars should be gone gone gone.

    STARVE THE CANCER!!!

    I really can't answer the weight issue. I lost 25 pounds but I needed to. I think one's body regulates to a healthful weight and I think we, as Americans, are so used to "normal" being actually "fat" that anyone who's thin, people think are not healthy. I mean, you surely don't want him to have ataxia. So I don't know. I eat this way and am not thin at all. (dang).

    Glad you enjoy my posts. I try! :-)

    peace, emily

    thanks
    Just wanted to add my thanks for your suggestions of food and diet. I am still below l00 most days.. but I keep trying. Thanks again.