Anyone know of a good book on meaning?

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  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    CSN_Rowan said:

    A reminder from your CSN Support Team

    Hi DaveHereInFlorida,

    Please keep in mind that the CSN terms and conditions ask all members to respect the spiritual beliefs of others and to refrain from proselytizing on the boards. This does not at all mean that you can't talk about your faith and its place in your life, but we do ask that discussions do not invalidate the beliefs (or disbelief) that other members may hold. Religious belief is always a complicated subject, and I appreciate your offer to continue the discussion privately with interested parties.

    Best regards,

    Rowan

    CSN Support Team

    A Forum for Discussion

    Many years ago (in a galaxy far, far away) WWIII broke out after a former member made a comment that pretty much offended everyone but them. After that, a separate forum was created so people could go nuts on their beliefs. Here's the link

    Spirituality, Prayer, and Meditation Forum

  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member

    Many millions of people are

    Many millions of people are evangelical Christians and are having a peace thru adversities in life.  Jesus and his calvary/resurection accomplishments put him well above competing religions and ideology including any alleged science claim such as the multiverse speculation ,  our universe is a chance happening, and a fish became a Fisherman.  THE MEANING TO LIFE AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH IT IS WRAPPED UP IN A PERSON AND NOT THE CREATED. Its the Creator who deserves our trust , honor, and worship .... nothing else will satisfy deeply because we each have this void in our souls meant for him to fill.  Once filled, a miraculous rebirth in the persons Soul takes place as the Creator actually comes to dwell in us.  Philosophy, making idols of created things, trying hard to live morally , diving into various pleasure experiences , etc... just cant fill that void because they lack power and are only temporarily fulfilling .  This life is all about Gods totally free gift of his Son paying the ultimate price on behalf of our sin account so we can enjoy GOD both now knowing we are at one with him and thru a wonderful relationship feeling his love, mercy, and care for us.  Its free to all and im just a Guy who took advantage of Gods Plan to be saved so i know that death isnt the last say-so for me  ---  it is simply a doorway to eternal life being in direct prsence with the Creator.  Its meant to be simple instead of thru some complex temporary acquistion of some thing .

     

    As you seek deep meaning to life, please remember the truth of Jesus from a historical reality standpoint as well as from science confirmation thru archeological finds, etc.. Its all within easy reach upon a simple google search. You may want to read a very small book highlighting the proofs making Christianity true thru the book 'More Than A Carpenter' by Josh McDonnell (www.amazon.com).  .  Because your eternity is at stake , i greatly encourage you to deeply investigate the Christian Faith and dont base it on what you witnessed in your moms walk or anyone else. It has to be made very personal.  Thanks for the exchange and your seriousness in the matter.  Dave 

    I Always Liked This Quote

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  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    CSN_Rowan said:

    A reminder from your CSN Support Team

    Hi DaveHereInFlorida,

    Please keep in mind that the CSN terms and conditions ask all members to respect the spiritual beliefs of others and to refrain from proselytizing on the boards. This does not at all mean that you can't talk about your faith and its place in your life, but we do ask that discussions do not invalidate the beliefs (or disbelief) that other members may hold. Religious belief is always a complicated subject, and I appreciate your offer to continue the discussion privately with interested parties.

    Best regards,

    Rowan

    CSN Support Team

    Wow....

    Wow....

    Jesus attempted to teach all people that there was only one (1) God. That God represented everyone. There were no "different Gods", but only one.

    Since all governing powers governed by Religious beliefs, funds were collected for the religion involved. That "taxation" was collected by the country area that that controlled by it's religious doctrine.

    Jesus set out to teach that there was no need to "pay" for God; that there was only one God, and He did not require "payment".

    The powers of those that governed were then in attack, and they responded by getting rid of the one individual that was compromising their control. That individual was named "Jesus Christ", and they crucified Him for His work to convince everyone that no governing power had the right to demand funds to support the "religious needs" of their constituents.

    It's so sad that so many now promote "Christianity" and actually pray to Jesus, when Jesus attempted to teach everyone that we are all of one God, and no one should pray to any "idol". He did not want people praying to Him, He was but a mere mortal attempting to teach others that only one God represented all, and there should be no differences in ideology.

    So much for all that, ehh?

    History is interesting, if one subscribes to the notion that only historical facts should be studied.

    Be well, our time is short.

    John

     

  • coloCan
    coloCan Member Posts: 1,944 Member

    Love the responses, lifes

    Love the responses, lifes mysteries can take us away from the mundane bs and even the scary stuff, because we all want to "know", it's built in to us.

    "Life is what happens while you"re busy making plans"

    (or something to that effect) John Lennon......

  • I dont believe i was

    I dont believe i was 'proslytizing'......

    It is up to everyone to make a decision about Jesus and i simply offered up what the Christian Faith is grounded on (his death sacrifice and bodily ressurection)  and some sources to investigate should a person desire to go further do acquire the truth of the historical Jesus.  I went on to highlight his famous teaching of being the way to heaven, the truth about our existence and future,  and his claim to be the life to which mankind finds ultimate fullfillment and peace with the soul  --- this was knowledge-sharing and not a chokehold to put people in so they accept Jesus  ;  that has to be a freewill choice without any coersion.     Also, I feel sharing of ones Faith is completely admissable regardless of the venue and protected by our Constitution .  Thank you. 

  • Trubrit
    Trubrit Member Posts: 5,796 Member

    I dont believe i was

    I dont believe i was 'proslytizing'......

    It is up to everyone to make a decision about Jesus and i simply offered up what the Christian Faith is grounded on (his death sacrifice and bodily ressurection)  and some sources to investigate should a person desire to go further do acquire the truth of the historical Jesus.  I went on to highlight his famous teaching of being the way to heaven, the truth about our existence and future,  and his claim to be the life to which mankind finds ultimate fullfillment and peace with the soul  --- this was knowledge-sharing and not a chokehold to put people in so they accept Jesus  ;  that has to be a freewill choice without any coersion.     Also, I feel sharing of ones Faith is completely admissable regardless of the venue and protected by our Constitution .  Thank you. 

    Don't worry, Dave

    I think the post from the mods was a genreal reminder to everyone and not just you. 

    One post can soon become several and before you know it, we're in some kind of debate, thus a reminder for all of us to accept one persons view and not get into a debate about it. 

    Sue - Trubrit

     

  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    Trubrit said:

    Don't worry, Dave

    I think the post from the mods was a genreal reminder to everyone and not just you. 

    One post can soon become several and before you know it, we're in some kind of debate, thus a reminder for all of us to accept one persons view and not get into a debate about it. 

    Sue - Trubrit

     

    I agree with Sue

    They would have sent you a private message if you were in hot water Dave. People often get passionate with their beliefs which is understandable. It's just that it can, at times, turn into something like "what's the best way to treat cancer?". There is no best way, it's whatever works for you...

  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member
    PhillieG said:

    I Always Liked This Quote

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    Great quote!

     

    I always loved that guy, Phil!

    Not only for his quotes, but also for his great soups! (mm-mmm-good)

     

  • John23
    John23 Member Posts: 2,122 Member

    I dont believe i was

    I dont believe i was 'proslytizing'......

    It is up to everyone to make a decision about Jesus and i simply offered up what the Christian Faith is grounded on (his death sacrifice and bodily ressurection)  and some sources to investigate should a person desire to go further do acquire the truth of the historical Jesus.  I went on to highlight his famous teaching of being the way to heaven, the truth about our existence and future,  and his claim to be the life to which mankind finds ultimate fullfillment and peace with the soul  --- this was knowledge-sharing and not a chokehold to put people in so they accept Jesus  ;  that has to be a freewill choice without any coersion.     Also, I feel sharing of ones Faith is completely admissable regardless of the venue and protected by our Constitution .  Thank you. 

    Dave...

     

    All forums are open to various ideologies, so please don't take anything too personally "out here".

    (I'd use that old adage: "opinions are like anuses; we all have one", but it really doesn't make sense on this specific board.) (ha)

    Be well!

    John

     

  • beaumontdave
    beaumontdave Member Posts: 1,280 Member
    I'm just excited that we can

    I'm just excited that we can have this conversation, I can't have it any where else in my life. People don't want to think about this stuff. I want to know what everyone believes, what you think, we've all been through so much, we're all searching for for something we can hold on to. Just to know others yearn for answers somehow gives me comfort, that I'm not alone with my desire to make sense of this crazy life. 

  • Sharronoffaith
    Sharronoffaith Member Posts: 76
    John23 said:

    Dave...

     

    All forums are open to various ideologies, so please don't take anything too personally "out here".

    (I'd use that old adage: "opinions are like anuses; we all have one", but it really doesn't make sense on this specific board.) (ha)

    Be well!

    John

     

    Ohhhh...noooooooo

    oh nooooo (said like in Mr. Bill)

     

    when they take my poor boo boo (buthole) will I still have an opinion.  

     

     

  • Easyflip
    Easyflip Member Posts: 588 Member

    I read "A Brief History of

    I read "A Brief History of Time" and thoroughly enjoyed it, so I'm open to anything by Dr. Hawking. I think he is the one who first convinced me that "why" may not be ever answered, other than to say "Because it is so". I'll get Grand Design and then maybe I'll read Brief History again, I have a hard time with physic's concepts. Thanks...............................................Dave

    I think there's

    a more elegant answer to the question "Why?" than "Because." It's... "Why not?" 

    Easyflip/Richard

  • beaumontdave
    beaumontdave Member Posts: 1,280 Member
    lp1964 said:

    I think about this a lot too!

    As you said our basic biological function is to survive long enough to pass on our genes. At the beginning of human (and other species too) evolution intelligence helped us to survive. The brain though started putting layer on the fundamentals. Food wasn't just fuel anymore. Now it has to look good, smell good, be warm or cold, we need to know what's in it and where it's from. Procreation is not mating anymore. We need the proper atmosphere, sexy outfit, candle and techniques to make the experience last and be memorable. Our great grand parents didnt even make the connection between mating and babies. "We were blessed by God!"

    Then came the intellectual layer. You have to realize the intellect has only meaning to the mind that creates it and the minds that preceive it. Like a languagge. Chinese makes sense only to those when understand it. To others is meaningless.

    Intelligense is meaningless to the biological world. It only feels important to our on minds. It's a luxury we can only afford when life is easy. Sadly all this accumulated wisdom becomes meaningless even disappears when society breaks down or the person dies.

    It's hell of an entertainment though.

    I live in Los Angeles. Where do you live in Cali?

    Laz

     

    I live in Beaumont, in the

    I live in Beaumont, in the San Gorgonio Pass, half way between San Berdoo and Palm Springs on Interstate 10. It's a beautiful spot with mountains and scenery all around, and two hour's drive to the beach, the deserts, upper and lower, the mountain towns, and the big city, LA or Diego.............................Dave

  • takingcontrol58
    takingcontrol58 Member Posts: 272 Member
    A Great Movie with Meaning

    Whle I was getting chemo, I watched a movie called "The Winters Tale."  It was on cable TV a couple
    times during my treatment.  It really inspired me after being told I had 6 mos to live.  It was always on TV
    when I needed a lift.

    If you have to rent it, make sure you get the one with Colin Farrell, Will Smith, Russell Crowe and William Hurt.
    It is very uplifting. It is actually about saving a red headed girl with cancer and why and how that particular
    girl was saved.  It makes me cry every time I see it.  It attempts to answer how and why we might be cancer survivors.

    Great movie.

    Takingcontrol58

  • beaumontdave
    beaumontdave Member Posts: 1,280 Member

    A Great Movie with Meaning

    Whle I was getting chemo, I watched a movie called "The Winters Tale."  It was on cable TV a couple
    times during my treatment.  It really inspired me after being told I had 6 mos to live.  It was always on TV
    when I needed a lift.

    If you have to rent it, make sure you get the one with Colin Farrell, Will Smith, Russell Crowe and William Hurt.
    It is very uplifting. It is actually about saving a red headed girl with cancer and why and how that particular
    girl was saved.  It makes me cry every time I see it.  It attempts to answer how and why we might be cancer survivors.

    Great movie.

    Takingcontrol58

    "The Winter's Tale", I'll

    "The Winter's Tale", I'll check it out, especially with that cast, Thanks...............................................Dave

  • BillO60
    BillO60 Member Posts: 72

    I live in Beaumont, in the

    I live in Beaumont, in the San Gorgonio Pass, half way between San Berdoo and Palm Springs on Interstate 10. It's a beautiful spot with mountains and scenery all around, and two hour's drive to the beach, the deserts, upper and lower, the mountain towns, and the big city, LA or Diego.............................Dave

    San Gorgonio Pass... a blast from the past

    Hi Dave,

    Back in the mid to late 1990's I worked for a Home Health/Hospice in Riverside that had offices in Banning/Beaumont, Palm Desert, and another out-of-the-way in the middle of the desert place between Banning and Palm Desert I can't remember the name of.   I worked IT back then and had to make the circuit to all of the offices on a regular basis.

    I lived in Hemet at the time and I haven't thought about the mountains for years until you mentioned it.  We used to make trips up to Idylwild as a nice change from the desert heat and to see something green once in awhile.  While I wasn't that fond of the desert heat, the Hemet area was a good location to get to just about any type of terrain, shopping, entertainment, and food anyone could be interested in.

    Now I live in LA about 4 miles from Venice Beach.  While I like having access to the beach (and the bike path that goes along the coast) and other stuff there are times I  miss the relative peace and quite and solitude you get in places like Beaumont.

    Bill

  • beaumontdave
    beaumontdave Member Posts: 1,280 Member
    BillO60 said:

    San Gorgonio Pass... a blast from the past

    Hi Dave,

    Back in the mid to late 1990's I worked for a Home Health/Hospice in Riverside that had offices in Banning/Beaumont, Palm Desert, and another out-of-the-way in the middle of the desert place between Banning and Palm Desert I can't remember the name of.   I worked IT back then and had to make the circuit to all of the offices on a regular basis.

    I lived in Hemet at the time and I haven't thought about the mountains for years until you mentioned it.  We used to make trips up to Idylwild as a nice change from the desert heat and to see something green once in awhile.  While I wasn't that fond of the desert heat, the Hemet area was a good location to get to just about any type of terrain, shopping, entertainment, and food anyone could be interested in.

    Now I live in LA about 4 miles from Venice Beach.  While I like having access to the beach (and the bike path that goes along the coast) and other stuff there are times I  miss the relative peace and quite and solitude you get in places like Beaumont.

    Bill

    Beaumont's losing it's little

    Beaumont's losing it's little town feel, Bill. We're way past 40k with subdivisions being built. I'm sad about what's being lost, but it's still home. Took the granddaughter to Venice Beach and SM pier awhile ago, just to show her something different, we had a great time. Desert Hot Springs, Cabazon and Whitewater are the little communities between Banning and Palm Springs/Palm Desert, if that helps. You're fortunate to not live in Hemet these days, I'm hearing and reading about bad stuff from there all the time. If I want peace, quiet, or solitude, I head for the mountains, Forest Falls or Idyllwild, but not on the weekend. Living on the edge of a Megalopolis means going places at times when the Angry Hordes aren't.....................................................Dave