Lemon (Citrus) - a miraculous product to kill cancer cells

bea-mil
bea-mil Member Posts: 108
Institute of Health Sciences, 819 N. L.L.C. Charles Street Baltimore , MD 1201.
This is the latest in medicine, effective for cancer!
Read carefully & you be the judge.
Lemon (Citrus) is a miraculous product to kill cancer cells. It is 10,000 times stronger than chemotherapy.
Why do we not know about that? Because there are laboratories interested in making a synthetic version that will bring them huge profits. You can now help a friend in need by letting him/her know that lemon juice is beneficial in preventing the disease. Its taste is pleasant and it does not produce the horrific effects of chemotherapy. How many people will die while this closely guarded secret is kept, so as not to jeopardize the beneficial multimillionaires large corporations? As you know, the lemon tree is known for its varieties of lemons and limes. You can eat the fruit in different ways: you can eat the pulp, juice press, prepare drinks, sorbets, pastries, etc... It is credited with many virtues, but the most interesting is the effect it produces on cysts and tumors. This plant is a proven remedy against cancers of all types. Some say it is very useful in all variants of cancer. It is considered also as ananti microbial spectrum against bacterial infections and fungi, effective against internal parasites and worms, it regulates blood pressure which is too high and an antidepressant, combats stress and nervous disorders.
The source of this information is fascinating: it comes from one of the largest drug manufacturers in the world, says that after more than 20 laboratory tests since 1970, the extracts revealed that: It destroys the malignant cells in 12 cancers, including colon, breast, prostate, lung and pancreas ... The compounds of this tree showed 10,000 times better than the product Adriamycin, a drug normally used chemotherapeutic in the world, slowing the growth of cancer cells. And what is even more astonishing: this type of therapy with lemon extract only destroys malignant cancer cells and it does not affect healthy cells.


Institute of Health Sciences, 819 N. L.L.C. Cause Street , Baltimore , MD1201
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  • maggie_wilson
    maggie_wilson Member Posts: 596
    bea-mil
    good to have you back on board! that's very interesting about lemons; always thought they had medicinal value in addition to taste, and now i know. of course, the corporations/pharmeceuticals don't want something as simple as lemons, or anything else easily gotten, to actually be more effective, and certainly less harmful than chemo. i've been trying an integrative approach: western medicine along with anti-cancer diet, less stress whenever possible, acupuncture, massage, supplements, etc. i'm also interested in checking out high dosage iv vitamin c. have you heard of this? there's a clinic in san francisco that administers this.

    in any case, stay healthy.
    sisterhood,
    maggie
  • JoAnnDK
    JoAnnDK Member Posts: 275
    "institute"
    Health Sciences Institute (sounds impressive, doesn't it?) is half of one floor of a skinny row house in a not-so-nice area of Baltimore. All this "institute" does is reprint articles it has found who-knows-where. It certainly is not a scientific organization nor is it doing any research.

    http://www.hoax-slayer.com/lemon-cancer-cells.shtml

    This "company" also publishes a books that are pretty much scams and their website takes you to ads purporting to sell all kinds of cures.

    The shame of this is that hucksters like HSI cast a shadow on legitimate herbal and alternative therapies.
  • california_artist
    california_artist Member Posts: 816 Member
    Bea
    I guess every environment can be exposed to a hope slayer. I am very happy that you are back with us. I believe that you bring a wealth of information and sources of information.
    The size of the building has little importance to the projection of the power of what resides there.

    The fellows that started Apple computer got their start in a very tiny garage. Einstein wore Mickey mouse sweat shirts and had weird hair, plus his office was a mess. That doesn't mean we should dismiss his ideas.

    It's not the size of the building, but the heart, mind, and intention of the person who inhabits it.

    I found your article informative. If you are applying the facts about cancer's inability to thrive in an alkaline environment, then this makes sense and is one of those pieces of the puzzle that I love to become aware of. Lemons are very alkaline once processed in the body. They work synergistically with tea to become more than than the benefits of each alone.

    I want you to know that what you have to offer, those things that you give the women here to consider, are of great importance. Together, we have an opportunity to discover more than we could individually.

    Everyone doesn't have time to research all day to find the news that has the potential for great importance. The willingness to look for what might be important and then making that information available is what more people need to do. I do it too. We need to be aware of all the things that can help us.

    Keep up the good work.

    Love,

    Claudia
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493

    Bea
    I guess every environment can be exposed to a hope slayer. I am very happy that you are back with us. I believe that you bring a wealth of information and sources of information.
    The size of the building has little importance to the projection of the power of what resides there.

    The fellows that started Apple computer got their start in a very tiny garage. Einstein wore Mickey mouse sweat shirts and had weird hair, plus his office was a mess. That doesn't mean we should dismiss his ideas.

    It's not the size of the building, but the heart, mind, and intention of the person who inhabits it.

    I found your article informative. If you are applying the facts about cancer's inability to thrive in an alkaline environment, then this makes sense and is one of those pieces of the puzzle that I love to become aware of. Lemons are very alkaline once processed in the body. They work synergistically with tea to become more than than the benefits of each alone.

    I want you to know that what you have to offer, those things that you give the women here to consider, are of great importance. Together, we have an opportunity to discover more than we could individually.

    Everyone doesn't have time to research all day to find the news that has the potential for great importance. The willingness to look for what might be important and then making that information available is what more people need to do. I do it too. We need to be aware of all the things that can help us.

    Keep up the good work.

    Love,

    Claudia

    Thanks, Bea
    I appreciate the information that you shared and absolutely believe that it is true. Even the website that called this article a "hoax" included the following information:

    A number of studies have indicated that compounds found in citrus (including lemon) may be effective as anti-cancer agents, at least for certain types of cancer.

    A December 2004 Science Daily article reports: Research by Texas Agriculture Experiment Station scientists has shown that citrus compounds called limonoids targeted and stopped neuroblastoma cells in the lab. They now hope to learn the reasons for the stop-action behavior and eventually try the citrus concoction in humans.

    Harris, the chief scientists, said that flavonoids and limonoids – nutrient-packed pigments that give color and taste to fruit – may work against cancer in any of three ways: prevent it from forming, slow the growth of existing cancer, or kill cancer cells.

    "The limonoids, which differ structurally from flavonoids, seem to do all three," he said of tests by a graduate student who worked in his lab. Their work emphasized the compounds' ability to kill existing the neuroblastoma cells with the rationale that if the method and time limonoids take to obliterate the cancer could be found, perhaps scientists could exploit it to help cure the disease.

    A May 2000 report about the potential of citrus limonoids as anticancer agents explains: The experimental results describe above indicate that citrus limonoids may provide substantial anticancer actions. The compounds have been shown to be free of toxic effects in animal models so potential exists for use of limonoids against human cancer in either the natural fruit, in citrus fortified with limonoids, or in purified forms of specific limonoids .


    And a report on the medicinal use of citrus published on the University of Florida EDIS website notes: Citrus flavonoids have potential antioxidant (prevents aging), anti-cancer, antiviral, anti-inflammatory activities, effects on capillarity, and cholesterol-lowering ability. The principal carotenoids in pink grapefruit are lycopene and beta-carotene. Lycopene-containing fruits and vegetables have been shown to contribute to a significant reduction in prostate and mammary cancer risk.

    Scientific studies indicate compounds in citrus, including lemon, have real potential as anti-cancer agents.
  • california_artist
    california_artist Member Posts: 816 Member
    Rewriter said:

    Thanks, Bea
    I appreciate the information that you shared and absolutely believe that it is true. Even the website that called this article a "hoax" included the following information:

    A number of studies have indicated that compounds found in citrus (including lemon) may be effective as anti-cancer agents, at least for certain types of cancer.

    A December 2004 Science Daily article reports: Research by Texas Agriculture Experiment Station scientists has shown that citrus compounds called limonoids targeted and stopped neuroblastoma cells in the lab. They now hope to learn the reasons for the stop-action behavior and eventually try the citrus concoction in humans.

    Harris, the chief scientists, said that flavonoids and limonoids – nutrient-packed pigments that give color and taste to fruit – may work against cancer in any of three ways: prevent it from forming, slow the growth of existing cancer, or kill cancer cells.

    "The limonoids, which differ structurally from flavonoids, seem to do all three," he said of tests by a graduate student who worked in his lab. Their work emphasized the compounds' ability to kill existing the neuroblastoma cells with the rationale that if the method and time limonoids take to obliterate the cancer could be found, perhaps scientists could exploit it to help cure the disease.

    A May 2000 report about the potential of citrus limonoids as anticancer agents explains: The experimental results describe above indicate that citrus limonoids may provide substantial anticancer actions. The compounds have been shown to be free of toxic effects in animal models so potential exists for use of limonoids against human cancer in either the natural fruit, in citrus fortified with limonoids, or in purified forms of specific limonoids .


    And a report on the medicinal use of citrus published on the University of Florida EDIS website notes: Citrus flavonoids have potential antioxidant (prevents aging), anti-cancer, antiviral, anti-inflammatory activities, effects on capillarity, and cholesterol-lowering ability. The principal carotenoids in pink grapefruit are lycopene and beta-carotene. Lycopene-containing fruits and vegetables have been shown to contribute to a significant reduction in prostate and mammary cancer risk.

    Scientific studies indicate compounds in citrus, including lemon, have real potential as anti-cancer agents.

    Thank you, Jill,
    I knew I loved you for a good reason.

    : ~ ))
  • kkstef
    kkstef Member Posts: 688
    Rewriter said:

    Thanks, Bea
    I appreciate the information that you shared and absolutely believe that it is true. Even the website that called this article a "hoax" included the following information:

    A number of studies have indicated that compounds found in citrus (including lemon) may be effective as anti-cancer agents, at least for certain types of cancer.

    A December 2004 Science Daily article reports: Research by Texas Agriculture Experiment Station scientists has shown that citrus compounds called limonoids targeted and stopped neuroblastoma cells in the lab. They now hope to learn the reasons for the stop-action behavior and eventually try the citrus concoction in humans.

    Harris, the chief scientists, said that flavonoids and limonoids – nutrient-packed pigments that give color and taste to fruit – may work against cancer in any of three ways: prevent it from forming, slow the growth of existing cancer, or kill cancer cells.

    "The limonoids, which differ structurally from flavonoids, seem to do all three," he said of tests by a graduate student who worked in his lab. Their work emphasized the compounds' ability to kill existing the neuroblastoma cells with the rationale that if the method and time limonoids take to obliterate the cancer could be found, perhaps scientists could exploit it to help cure the disease.

    A May 2000 report about the potential of citrus limonoids as anticancer agents explains: The experimental results describe above indicate that citrus limonoids may provide substantial anticancer actions. The compounds have been shown to be free of toxic effects in animal models so potential exists for use of limonoids against human cancer in either the natural fruit, in citrus fortified with limonoids, or in purified forms of specific limonoids .


    And a report on the medicinal use of citrus published on the University of Florida EDIS website notes: Citrus flavonoids have potential antioxidant (prevents aging), anti-cancer, antiviral, anti-inflammatory activities, effects on capillarity, and cholesterol-lowering ability. The principal carotenoids in pink grapefruit are lycopene and beta-carotene. Lycopene-containing fruits and vegetables have been shown to contribute to a significant reduction in prostate and mammary cancer risk.

    Scientific studies indicate compounds in citrus, including lemon, have real potential as anti-cancer agents.

    Thanks!
    Good info on Lemons....I had read previously about the synergistic effect of lemon and green tea (probably from Claudia) and do believe that combo makes sense.I know one of the ladies on this site makes a drink, grinding up the peel and all (I can't remember who it was)... In any case, I will keep drinking my green tea with LEMON and will find even more ways to use lemons. Sure can't hurt and I am quite confident, it will help.

    Love all of you for searching and posting for interesting and helpful info!

    P.S....Bea....I too, am glad to see you back again!!!

    Hugs, Karen
  • JoAnnDK
    JoAnnDK Member Posts: 275
    kkstef said:

    Thanks!
    Good info on Lemons....I had read previously about the synergistic effect of lemon and green tea (probably from Claudia) and do believe that combo makes sense.I know one of the ladies on this site makes a drink, grinding up the peel and all (I can't remember who it was)... In any case, I will keep drinking my green tea with LEMON and will find even more ways to use lemons. Sure can't hurt and I am quite confident, it will help.

    Love all of you for searching and posting for interesting and helpful info!

    P.S....Bea....I too, am glad to see you back again!!!

    Hugs, Karen

    I never said that lemons
    I never said that lemons were not good for cancer, just that HSI is a scam/sham. I just happen to know about this place and thought it would be helpful to share my knowledge, and instead I get "reprimanded".

    HSI has been on the news in Baltimore several times for publishing mostly false information, with just enough truth in it to reel desperate people in. Look at their website and you will see how unbelievable it is. These people do no research, and have no ideas of their own. So you cannot "dismiss their ideas" since they have none!
  • lindaprocopio
    lindaprocopio Member Posts: 1,980
    JoAnnDK said:

    I never said that lemons
    I never said that lemons were not good for cancer, just that HSI is a scam/sham. I just happen to know about this place and thought it would be helpful to share my knowledge, and instead I get "reprimanded".

    HSI has been on the news in Baltimore several times for publishing mostly false information, with just enough truth in it to reel desperate people in. Look at their website and you will see how unbelievable it is. These people do no research, and have no ideas of their own. So you cannot "dismiss their ideas" since they have none!

    Thank you, JoAnn. HSI should be ashamed of itself. PREDATOR.
    Any time a 'scientific' journal spouts conspiracy therories like "drug companies don't want you to know this", and use words like "miraculous", you can be assured that it's a scam.

    Eat lemons if you want; they're yummy, and they may very well assist with keeping your body an inhospitable place for cancer to grow. But I'm with JoAnn that this is a VERY suspect source.

    Please don't start this battle up again, ladies, or half the posters here will stay away to avoid this stress and drama!!
  • TiggersDoBounce
    TiggersDoBounce Member Posts: 408

    Thank you, JoAnn. HSI should be ashamed of itself. PREDATOR.
    Any time a 'scientific' journal spouts conspiracy therories like "drug companies don't want you to know this", and use words like "miraculous", you can be assured that it's a scam.

    Eat lemons if you want; they're yummy, and they may very well assist with keeping your body an inhospitable place for cancer to grow. But I'm with JoAnn that this is a VERY suspect source.

    Please don't start this battle up again, ladies, or half the posters here will stay away to avoid this stress and drama!!

    Take the Lemons and make Lemonade
    Not just literally but figuratively as well girlfriends!

    I second Linda's suggestion....less stress and drama!

    With all the suggestions comes our own personal research and adaptation to it.

    Unfortunately cancer not only attracts poor victims but their pocketbooks. Shame on those who try to profit through less than moral ways.

    Hang in ladies!

    Laurie
  • bea-mil
    bea-mil Member Posts: 108
    JoAnnDK said:

    I never said that lemons
    I never said that lemons were not good for cancer, just that HSI is a scam/sham. I just happen to know about this place and thought it would be helpful to share my knowledge, and instead I get "reprimanded".

    HSI has been on the news in Baltimore several times for publishing mostly false information, with just enough truth in it to reel desperate people in. Look at their website and you will see how unbelievable it is. These people do no research, and have no ideas of their own. So you cannot "dismiss their ideas" since they have none!

    JoAnn
    If you know that lemon

    JoAnn

    If you know that lemon are good why then you are trying to discredit HSI. I’ve read about lemons from many different sources but the source is the least relevant here. You are focusing on a wrong subject. The post is not about HSI, but lemon. Try to research on this if you are interested in...and stay positive.

    All the best to you.
  • Songflower
    Songflower Member Posts: 608
    bea-mil said:

    JoAnn
    If you know that lemon

    JoAnn

    If you know that lemon are good why then you are trying to discredit HSI. I’ve read about lemons from many different sources but the source is the least relevant here. You are focusing on a wrong subject. The post is not about HSI, but lemon. Try to research on this if you are interested in...and stay positive.

    All the best to you.

    Loopy Lemons
    If lemons really worked my oncologist would be throwing them at me when I walked in the door. I've always loved lemons and limes but I don't think there is a magic cure like this. I'm sorry for those exposed to false hope. I think those advocating untested hope need to be prosecuted.

    Songflower
  • california_artist
    california_artist Member Posts: 816 Member

    Thank you, JoAnn. HSI should be ashamed of itself. PREDATOR.
    Any time a 'scientific' journal spouts conspiracy therories like "drug companies don't want you to know this", and use words like "miraculous", you can be assured that it's a scam.

    Eat lemons if you want; they're yummy, and they may very well assist with keeping your body an inhospitable place for cancer to grow. But I'm with JoAnn that this is a VERY suspect source.

    Please don't start this battle up again, ladies, or half the posters here will stay away to avoid this stress and drama!!

    Lemons are just a citrus,how could they effect cancer
    True enough. Guess it could sound pretty silly to think that the lumin whatever it is that they get from the citrus peel and the stuff they get out of pectin could be a boost to your body to fight the big C or other diseases. Does sound kind of silly doesn't it.

    So let's see. You all are taking Taxol to fight your cancer, well mostly all. That comes from what again??? the yew tree. It's a plant alkaloid. When I learned Taxol came from the yew tree, I had a very positive response. I thought wow, that's really interesting.

    from web
    What is Taxol? Taxol is an anti-cancer ("antineoplastic" or "cytotoxic") chemotherapy drug. Taxol is classified as a "plant alkaloid," a "taxane" and an "antimicrotubule agent." (For more detail, see "How Taxol Works" section below).

    I don't really get the whole problem. So many medicines are derived from plants and are just accepted. Why not just look at things offered as something to think about. Especially in light of the fact that this particular cancer is exceedingly hard to defeat. And none of us knows what will really work. Why not allow people extra hope?

    Hope and feeling that you are doing all you can to defeat your cancer are vitally important in your recovery, why all the race to defeat hope???

    Friends help you heal. women who join discussion groups, usually in person where they can talk about their fears etc do better than women who don't. There is no clinical trial for it.

    God, no clinical trial for that either. Hope and faith.

    All those things that really help your body heal, there is no clinical trial for because you can't patten them. You can't bottle them and make a drug, which is what it was agreed was all the FDA would allow doctors to prescribe. They are just things that help you feel better, and stronger and to heal.

    Things that will most likely help and certainly not hurt, I'm not going to into the whys and wherefores. you can think they'll help you or not:

    hope
    Sleeping in as dark a room as you can
    deep breathing
    exercise
    water without chlorine
    a heavily alkaline leaning diet
    keeping an open mind
    friendship
    low salt diet
    low protein diet
    laughter
    organic concord grapes before anything else in the morning
    doing those things you love even though you have cancer and are sad some of the time
    tolerance
    good deeds
    green tea with lemon
    the entire organic lemon demolished in your food processor
    ginger
    turmeric/pepper/olive oil
    trying to stay away from really acidic foods and drinks-soda, beer, wine, coffee, beef there are charts on line for this info
    yoga,and similar past times
    guided imagery-imagine yourself well
    meditation
    avoiding stress like you would avoid the plague. A body that is under stress puts nearly all its energy to defending from that stress and forgets about the bigger threat of cancer
    an open mind, open to what abouts,and what ifs

    It is very possible if there had not been something patentable that could be derived from the yew tree and approved by the FDA that it would not currently be treatment for cancer. And what if the poor soul who first thought of using bark from a yew tree had gotten shot down as that being a poor idea indeed.
    Taxol does work for some cancers.

    A current note on taxol is that they are working on creating a chemical that works like taxol

    In the google search engine I typed in taxol derived from- and came up with even the original research on the discovery. It is very interesting reading. I hope it continues to work for all of you that are currently in treatment and who finished treatment.

    What I am trying to say is that discoveries made because people wonder and experiment and look at the results. They try. They have hope that things will work,or else why would they try.

    We all need hope that things will work. If it's not going to hurt you, doesn't cost an arm and a leg, why not give yourself a little feeling, a tiny glimmer of hope?

    Were i to want to get the most benefit from that little old lemon, I personally would make certain it was organic. I would take the whole entire lemon and put it in my little chopper and chop the heck out of it. I would in the meantime have made some green tea, letting it steep for the entire 30 minutes to get the most out of it. I would then mix the two together if the tea was no longer hot, and I would take my time and drink it, without sugar, even though it tasted pretty bitter. I would just grin and bear it, cause in the long run, it's not going to hurt me and could do a world of good. Think of how happy my liver will be and all my friendly little cells, all except for the cancer ones, cause once my body turns all that acidy lemon into wonderful alkaline ash, my cancer cells will be in real trouble.

    That's it.

    Hope
    Hope
    Hope
    Action
    Action
    Action
    empowerment
    wellness
    wellness
    deep breath

    and we're done.

    Best wishes to you all, and know that I will support you in whatever your choice of treatment, even if it's not my choice.

    A friend,

    Claudia
  • kkstef
    kkstef Member Posts: 688

    Lemons are just a citrus,how could they effect cancer
    True enough. Guess it could sound pretty silly to think that the lumin whatever it is that they get from the citrus peel and the stuff they get out of pectin could be a boost to your body to fight the big C or other diseases. Does sound kind of silly doesn't it.

    So let's see. You all are taking Taxol to fight your cancer, well mostly all. That comes from what again??? the yew tree. It's a plant alkaloid. When I learned Taxol came from the yew tree, I had a very positive response. I thought wow, that's really interesting.

    from web
    What is Taxol? Taxol is an anti-cancer ("antineoplastic" or "cytotoxic") chemotherapy drug. Taxol is classified as a "plant alkaloid," a "taxane" and an "antimicrotubule agent." (For more detail, see "How Taxol Works" section below).

    I don't really get the whole problem. So many medicines are derived from plants and are just accepted. Why not just look at things offered as something to think about. Especially in light of the fact that this particular cancer is exceedingly hard to defeat. And none of us knows what will really work. Why not allow people extra hope?

    Hope and feeling that you are doing all you can to defeat your cancer are vitally important in your recovery, why all the race to defeat hope???

    Friends help you heal. women who join discussion groups, usually in person where they can talk about their fears etc do better than women who don't. There is no clinical trial for it.

    God, no clinical trial for that either. Hope and faith.

    All those things that really help your body heal, there is no clinical trial for because you can't patten them. You can't bottle them and make a drug, which is what it was agreed was all the FDA would allow doctors to prescribe. They are just things that help you feel better, and stronger and to heal.

    Things that will most likely help and certainly not hurt, I'm not going to into the whys and wherefores. you can think they'll help you or not:

    hope
    Sleeping in as dark a room as you can
    deep breathing
    exercise
    water without chlorine
    a heavily alkaline leaning diet
    keeping an open mind
    friendship
    low salt diet
    low protein diet
    laughter
    organic concord grapes before anything else in the morning
    doing those things you love even though you have cancer and are sad some of the time
    tolerance
    good deeds
    green tea with lemon
    the entire organic lemon demolished in your food processor
    ginger
    turmeric/pepper/olive oil
    trying to stay away from really acidic foods and drinks-soda, beer, wine, coffee, beef there are charts on line for this info
    yoga,and similar past times
    guided imagery-imagine yourself well
    meditation
    avoiding stress like you would avoid the plague. A body that is under stress puts nearly all its energy to defending from that stress and forgets about the bigger threat of cancer
    an open mind, open to what abouts,and what ifs

    It is very possible if there had not been something patentable that could be derived from the yew tree and approved by the FDA that it would not currently be treatment for cancer. And what if the poor soul who first thought of using bark from a yew tree had gotten shot down as that being a poor idea indeed.
    Taxol does work for some cancers.

    A current note on taxol is that they are working on creating a chemical that works like taxol

    In the google search engine I typed in taxol derived from- and came up with even the original research on the discovery. It is very interesting reading. I hope it continues to work for all of you that are currently in treatment and who finished treatment.

    What I am trying to say is that discoveries made because people wonder and experiment and look at the results. They try. They have hope that things will work,or else why would they try.

    We all need hope that things will work. If it's not going to hurt you, doesn't cost an arm and a leg, why not give yourself a little feeling, a tiny glimmer of hope?

    Were i to want to get the most benefit from that little old lemon, I personally would make certain it was organic. I would take the whole entire lemon and put it in my little chopper and chop the heck out of it. I would in the meantime have made some green tea, letting it steep for the entire 30 minutes to get the most out of it. I would then mix the two together if the tea was no longer hot, and I would take my time and drink it, without sugar, even though it tasted pretty bitter. I would just grin and bear it, cause in the long run, it's not going to hurt me and could do a world of good. Think of how happy my liver will be and all my friendly little cells, all except for the cancer ones, cause once my body turns all that acidy lemon into wonderful alkaline ash, my cancer cells will be in real trouble.

    That's it.

    Hope
    Hope
    Hope
    Action
    Action
    Action
    empowerment
    wellness
    wellness
    deep breath

    and we're done.

    Best wishes to you all, and know that I will support you in whatever your choice of treatment, even if it's not my choice.

    A friend,

    Claudia

    Well Said!
    I could not have said it better! We all look for things that we can do to make our body inhospitable to cancer cells. Some things might work...some not, but we can each make choices. And it makes me feel like I am doing SOMETHING....and that is empowering for me!

    I appreciate all of the ideas put forth on this site to educate us,to provide choices and give us hope!

    Best to all!

    Karen
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493
    bea-mil said:

    JoAnn
    If you know that lemon

    JoAnn

    If you know that lemon are good why then you are trying to discredit HSI. I’ve read about lemons from many different sources but the source is the least relevant here. You are focusing on a wrong subject. The post is not about HSI, but lemon. Try to research on this if you are interested in...and stay positive.

    All the best to you.

    Bea
    Good afternoon, and thank you again for directing us to what is important here--lemon's anti-cancer properties and NOT HSI.

    Ok, now I've said enough.

    Love you,

    Jill
  • Double Whammy
    Double Whammy Member Posts: 2,832
    Rewriter said:

    Bea
    Good afternoon, and thank you again for directing us to what is important here--lemon's anti-cancer properties and NOT HSI.

    Ok, now I've said enough.

    Love you,

    Jill

    Enough Already!
    Pleeeeeeeeze!
  • lindaprocopio
    lindaprocopio Member Posts: 1,980

    Enough Already!
    Pleeeeeeeeze!

    Damn right. You ladies are better than this. Stop it right now.
    Let this thread die, NOW. PLEASE. I hate this type of snippy behavior; we are a better community than this thread reflects. PLEASE agree to disagree and move the heck on.
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493

    Lemons are just a citrus,how could they effect cancer
    True enough. Guess it could sound pretty silly to think that the lumin whatever it is that they get from the citrus peel and the stuff they get out of pectin could be a boost to your body to fight the big C or other diseases. Does sound kind of silly doesn't it.

    So let's see. You all are taking Taxol to fight your cancer, well mostly all. That comes from what again??? the yew tree. It's a plant alkaloid. When I learned Taxol came from the yew tree, I had a very positive response. I thought wow, that's really interesting.

    from web
    What is Taxol? Taxol is an anti-cancer ("antineoplastic" or "cytotoxic") chemotherapy drug. Taxol is classified as a "plant alkaloid," a "taxane" and an "antimicrotubule agent." (For more detail, see "How Taxol Works" section below).

    I don't really get the whole problem. So many medicines are derived from plants and are just accepted. Why not just look at things offered as something to think about. Especially in light of the fact that this particular cancer is exceedingly hard to defeat. And none of us knows what will really work. Why not allow people extra hope?

    Hope and feeling that you are doing all you can to defeat your cancer are vitally important in your recovery, why all the race to defeat hope???

    Friends help you heal. women who join discussion groups, usually in person where they can talk about their fears etc do better than women who don't. There is no clinical trial for it.

    God, no clinical trial for that either. Hope and faith.

    All those things that really help your body heal, there is no clinical trial for because you can't patten them. You can't bottle them and make a drug, which is what it was agreed was all the FDA would allow doctors to prescribe. They are just things that help you feel better, and stronger and to heal.

    Things that will most likely help and certainly not hurt, I'm not going to into the whys and wherefores. you can think they'll help you or not:

    hope
    Sleeping in as dark a room as you can
    deep breathing
    exercise
    water without chlorine
    a heavily alkaline leaning diet
    keeping an open mind
    friendship
    low salt diet
    low protein diet
    laughter
    organic concord grapes before anything else in the morning
    doing those things you love even though you have cancer and are sad some of the time
    tolerance
    good deeds
    green tea with lemon
    the entire organic lemon demolished in your food processor
    ginger
    turmeric/pepper/olive oil
    trying to stay away from really acidic foods and drinks-soda, beer, wine, coffee, beef there are charts on line for this info
    yoga,and similar past times
    guided imagery-imagine yourself well
    meditation
    avoiding stress like you would avoid the plague. A body that is under stress puts nearly all its energy to defending from that stress and forgets about the bigger threat of cancer
    an open mind, open to what abouts,and what ifs

    It is very possible if there had not been something patentable that could be derived from the yew tree and approved by the FDA that it would not currently be treatment for cancer. And what if the poor soul who first thought of using bark from a yew tree had gotten shot down as that being a poor idea indeed.
    Taxol does work for some cancers.

    A current note on taxol is that they are working on creating a chemical that works like taxol

    In the google search engine I typed in taxol derived from- and came up with even the original research on the discovery. It is very interesting reading. I hope it continues to work for all of you that are currently in treatment and who finished treatment.

    What I am trying to say is that discoveries made because people wonder and experiment and look at the results. They try. They have hope that things will work,or else why would they try.

    We all need hope that things will work. If it's not going to hurt you, doesn't cost an arm and a leg, why not give yourself a little feeling, a tiny glimmer of hope?

    Were i to want to get the most benefit from that little old lemon, I personally would make certain it was organic. I would take the whole entire lemon and put it in my little chopper and chop the heck out of it. I would in the meantime have made some green tea, letting it steep for the entire 30 minutes to get the most out of it. I would then mix the two together if the tea was no longer hot, and I would take my time and drink it, without sugar, even though it tasted pretty bitter. I would just grin and bear it, cause in the long run, it's not going to hurt me and could do a world of good. Think of how happy my liver will be and all my friendly little cells, all except for the cancer ones, cause once my body turns all that acidy lemon into wonderful alkaline ash, my cancer cells will be in real trouble.

    That's it.

    Hope
    Hope
    Hope
    Action
    Action
    Action
    empowerment
    wellness
    wellness
    deep breath

    and we're done.

    Best wishes to you all, and know that I will support you in whatever your choice of treatment, even if it's not my choice.

    A friend,

    Claudia

    Never mind

    Never mind
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493
    JoAnnDK said:

    "institute"
    Health Sciences Institute (sounds impressive, doesn't it?) is half of one floor of a skinny row house in a not-so-nice area of Baltimore. All this "institute" does is reprint articles it has found who-knows-where. It certainly is not a scientific organization nor is it doing any research.

    http://www.hoax-slayer.com/lemon-cancer-cells.shtml

    This "company" also publishes a books that are pretty much scams and their website takes you to ads purporting to sell all kinds of cures.

    The shame of this is that hucksters like HSI cast a shadow on legitimate herbal and alternative therapies.

    Never mind

    Never mind
  • Rewriter
    Rewriter Member Posts: 493

    Loopy Lemons
    If lemons really worked my oncologist would be throwing them at me when I walked in the door. I've always loved lemons and limes but I don't think there is a magic cure like this. I'm sorry for those exposed to false hope. I think those advocating untested hope need to be prosecuted.

    Songflower

    double post; sorry.

    double post; sorry.
  • daisy366
    daisy366 Member Posts: 1,458 Member

    Damn right. You ladies are better than this. Stop it right now.
    Let this thread die, NOW. PLEASE. I hate this type of snippy behavior; we are a better community than this thread reflects. PLEASE agree to disagree and move the heck on.

    It's possible all of you are right!!
    The lemon is mighty - NO ONE is denying that fact. Enjoy lots of them.

    However it is VERY IMPORTANT to consider the source of ANY information. This is so important with internet information. We need to Research not only what is said but who is saying it - and motive.