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This seems very interesting

manwithnoname
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http://www.envitamexico.mx/adoptive-autologus-immunotherapy/

Watch the video, it explains the treatment well, might be an alternative to Germany Wink

clinical trial for CRC here; http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00720785

Fucc
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A while back I had been trying to find out more about envita and if anyone has any direct experience. I came up empty handed. I'd love to hear from someone who has been there or at least looked into it. It is definitely interesting.

manwithnoname
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is  NK+ bortezormib (which is interesting) im guessing it's free.

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pete43lost_at_sea
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I will update, when i get more info about the trial and the pricing from envita.

the nk cell activity stuff for colorectal seems pretty credible.

of course i am still here in germany committed to the current plan, just doing a little detailed research on the side.

getting our white blood cells up for leacophersis a good goal, for that matter keeping then at a level sufficient for these trials also an interesting benchmark re how much systemic chemo to consume.

i think the concept of trying systemic chemo if you have to, to shrink significant tumour burden asap and then flicking over to one of these therapies or a trial an interesting strategy. 

its amazing how fast the world changes with a few poineers and a few good ideas. the days of sitting passively in the chair each fortnight and sucking down some challenging cocktail are fading fast. 

i think of the immunotheapy revolution as the fact we are just changing drinks, its just a different cocktails. the old cocktail untargetted, blunt and systemic and very harsh, the new cocktail targeted, personalised and hopefully more effective.

http://petertrayhurn.blogspot.de/2013/02/envitamexico-adoptive-autologus.html

hugs,

pete

vinaykumar
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great find tony.....

there is an institute in chennai ( india ) wihch claims to be doing a similar treatment in collaboration with a japanese treatment center ..... http://www.ncrm.org/aiet/index.htm 

the cost i belive is abt 30 K USD for 6 infusions 

 

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pete43lost_at_sea
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interesting cost, so about 5K usd per vaccine, now the 9KUSD per vaccine at nesselhut and germany is more expensive, but it includes a weeks therapy of hyperthermia, ndv, ozone and the vaccine. that hallwang charge 11k USD per vaccine for less therapy. but its impossible to assess the science, i am happy with nesselhut for my vaccine.

i hope us discussing cost does not upset anyone. just pointing out these are costs are realistic.

hugs,

pete

manwithnoname
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Our Dr. also does this kind of treatment, although he uses mis-matched cells, cost's are about the same, he did a clinical trial here; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20563804  results were  ok but I'm sure they would be better if people did it before they got too ill.

luvinlife2
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Thanks for the info and links Tony.  Another thing to bring to my nat onc this week Smile

janie1
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I called Envita several months ago. They let me talk to a former patient, but after she talked and talked it up, she actually did not have the vaccine. She may have been cured without having gone to Envita, due to the surgery she had. She only went to Envita for ozone therapy, Vit. C iv, after the surgery.

When I asked to speak to someone who actually had the vaccine, there wasn't anyone to talk to. They have customer service type (or sales) people that call you. After i asked questions they weren't able to answer, they stopped calling.

I understand they have to give the vaccine in Mexico because it isn't approved in the U.S........however, I am very skeptical since contacting them.
I don't know of anyone that has gone there.

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sdp
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Hi,

 

can we pl ask unto, give details of what your wife had - which organ it had spread , did she take conventional chemo or any surgeries ?

What was the the cea and CA 19.9'at Dx mad what it was post envita and pre envita treatment .

formhowmlong has she been NED. How are you monitoring for recurrences etc , scheduled scans ? Periodicity ? 

And other relevant information. What actual treatment did she have at envita.? how many ? What doses ? How long ? 

What it cost etc.

 

this will help us all understand how it may be of help at our current stage and when it can be of help .

 

thanks

 

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traci43
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This sounds promising.  Thanks for sharing!

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annalexandria
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do hire people to search online for any mention of their name, and then respond with "testimonials".  You can search on the text in that post and the exact same thing turns up on other cancer forums where Envita was mentioned.

Hopefully, this person will come back and give us more specifics on his wife's case.

manwithnoname
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SPAM, steer clear of Envita.

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annalexandria
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Nice to see you around.  I hope things are going ok with you and your family.

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kennyt
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So after thirteen years of your wife being cured you decided to join a cancer discussion board?

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annalexandria
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exact same time, exact same wording.

http://www.cancercompass.com/message-board/message/all,27223,0.htm?mid=565527

 

And it's probably a total coincidence that a guy with the same name works at buysellads.com, an online advertising service.

Sorry to be so suspicious, marcman, but we do get our share of scammers here.  Some of us have gotten a little jaded.

ETA I just noticed it cures Lyme Disease too??  Come on...

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